Flachmatuch
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charlequin said:The bugbear of financial motivation erasing the ability for artistic expression is like high-school material. Nobody seriously considers this to be the deciding factor of the artistic validity of a given work.
I'd love to see the actual arguments about how a game or movie etc designed through focus groups leaves space for individual creativity, as opposed to claiming that I should just know. If it's high school material, it should be pretty easy.
I said that video games as they're made now are not forms of self expression, and I'm pretty sure that it's true.
Do you even live in the 21st Century? Art done got democratized, man.
I agree, and this is why I think talking about anything but independent games when talking about "art" is mostly silly. I also mentioned in my original post the (mostly trivial) reasons that I thought that indie game development doesn't have an easy time with being "artistic". My point was that *video games* are pretty special and may not serve as a tool for self-expression as easily and as generally as literature or music or even movies. Even if something can be art, it doesn't mean it is. It might be too expensive, difficult, specialised or whatever, and making video games is certainly difficult and expensive and specialised, and in this way pretty unique.