LCfiner said:Im not sure if this is sarcasm
MS is guaranteed to say how many copies it sold because its going to be a lot. theyll want to show off.
Its games that are somewhere else in the top 20 in sales that well never know about now.
But how will you prove it. With VGC hartz? Ha good luck?Zachack said:I will bet money that I can prove that Reach did not sell more than they shipped.
A lot of money.
AniHawk said:OK, here's what we've got: Microsoft, in conjunction with the Panasonic under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing David Riley to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the reveal of numbers.
We're through the looking glass, here, people.
^ this is the funniest thing to come out of this news.KJ_Wii said:I always thought GAF would've been better off building up VG-Chartz and making it better than tearing it down. Maybe by now we would've had a legitimate NPD competitor. Oh well.
i can't believe you missed out the bit about the time machine.AniHawk said:OK, here's what we've got: Microsoft, in conjunction with the Panasonic under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing David Riley to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the reveal of numbers.
We're through the looking glass, here, people.
Bwahaha! :lolAniHawk said:OK, here's what we've got: Microsoft, in conjunction with the Panasonic under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing David Riley to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the reveal of numbers.
We're through the looking glass, here, people.
dLMN8R said:This is a good thing. NPD and its partners are probably fed up with console fanboys distorting their numbers into having far greater meaning than was ever intended.
NPD is intentionally United States and retail-only. Console fanboys argue endlessly over numbers without realizing this. European and other American markets are totally ignored in the end despite the fact that they're usually far different from the United States market.
sechsterangriff said:Sure we will still get monthly numbers in the form of corporate gloating from the platform holders quoting NPD data. Though things will get troublesome when they start talking about how "the PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo family sold X amount of units outselling the competition".
Gravijah said:how is this good news
....dLMN8R said:This is a good thing. NPD and its partners are probably fed up with console fanboys distorting their numbers into having far greater meaning than was ever intended.
NPD is intentionally United States and retail-only. Console fanboys argue endlessly over numbers without realizing this. European and other American markets are totally ignored in the end despite the fact that they're usually far different from the United States market.
Mooreberg said:Because now you can play some games instead compiling spreadsheets on Google Docs.
Mooreberg said:Because now you can play some games instead compiling spreadsheets on Google Docs.
Stop spending your time posting at GAF and go play some games.Mooreberg said:Because now you can play some games instead compiling spreadsheets on Google Docs.
Gravijah said:What if I'm playing a game where it's advantageous to compile spreadsheets?
Even if people are fully aware what NPD's figures represent, it's still an incomplete data source lacking a tremendous amount of information that puts those numbers into context.Cosmonaut X said:Uh, I think most of the people discussing NPD figures are well aware that they don't cover European or Canadian sales.
I doubt the bods at the NPD are really that fussed if some mouthbreathing forum nutjob thinks NPD=WW sales...
Garjon said:I don't think any big publisher/developer/analyst would be stupid enough to actually use their dataexcept Square Enix
Our numbers have been cited and featured by a number of leading worldwide publications such as Reuters TV, The BBC, CNN Money, The New York Times, Fortune, Business 2.0, Forbes, The New York Post, The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Times, Süddeutsche Zeitung, The Birmingham News, The Toronto Star, The Indianapolis Star, The Inquirer, NU.nl, CNet, Seeking Alpha, OReilly Radar, Yahoo Games and The Guinness Book of World Records.
dLMN8R said:We should celebrate this announcement!
Mooreberg said:That game won't be impacted by a lack of NPD data.
almost...pulga said:Any suicides already?
I don't see how my posts are irrelevant to the thread? It's not like I've been posting in it over and over again.Mooreberg said:If you don't like it than why are you even in this thread? Oh, wait. Nevermind. Continue. :lol
Luckily, we don't need NPD to laugh at that site - publishers can do the job for us!luxarific said:You'd be surprised:
Vgachartz are partying down right now.
MrPliskin said:Legality aside, the fact that anyone would be willing to pay for, what is essentially a spread sheet of data, is pretty funny in and of itself :lol
Why would NPD numbers be that important to you?
...dLMN8R said:Even if people are fully aware what NPD's figures represent, it's still an incomplete data source lacking a tremendous amount of information that puts those numbers into context.
In the end, they're totally useless and lead to completely pointless fanboy debates with fanboys both working from the same totally incomplete data sets meaning that no one actually knows anything about what those numbers represent on a global scale.
We should celebrate this announcement!
dLMN8R said:Even if people are fully aware what NPD's figures represent, it's still an incomplete data source lacking a tremendous amount of information that puts those numbers into context.
In the end, they're totally useless and lead to completely pointless fanboy debates with fanboys both working from the same totally incomplete data sets meaning that no one actually knows anything about what those numbers represent on a global scale.
We should celebrate this announcement!
dLMN8R said:I don't see how my posts are irrelevant to the thread? It's not like I've been posting in it over and over again.
Firstly... who cares what they represent on a global scale? They're for discussion of the US market, just like Media Create etc is for discussion of the Japanese market.dLMN8R said:In the end, they're totally useless and lead to completely pointless fanboy debates with fanboys both working from the same totally incomplete data sets meaning that no one actually knows anything about what those numbers represent on a global scale.
dLMN8R said:Even if people are fully aware what NPD's figures represent, it's still an incomplete data source lacking a tremendous amount of information that puts those numbers into context.
In the end, they're totally useless and lead to completely pointless fanboy debates with fanboys both working from the same totally incomplete data sets meaning that no one actually knows anything about what those numbers represent on a global scale.
We should celebrate this announcement!
hey! stop stealing my answersHaunted said:
That will just make it more fun to watch!Kusagari said:No. All this means is now we'll have completely pointless fanboy debates with fanboys both working from whatever antecedal evidence and chartz numbers they can find.
GarthVaderUK said:NPD threads won't be going away. We're just going to end up with an even more incomplete set of information leaving more room for fanboy interpretation and bickering.
We should definitely not celebrate this announcement!
That's not actually free. Famitsu and Media Create White Papers cost more than 30k yen.legend166 said:NPD must be a horribly run company for them to need to do this.
I can get weekly top 30 sales data from Japan, from two different sources, for free.
I can get a yearly top 500 list from Japan, for free.
I can get weekly top 40 sales rankings from the UK, for free.
I can get daily box office numbers for every relevant release in the US, and weekly numbers for every relevant worldwide market, for free.
I can get weekly DVD sales numbers for every relevant release in the US.
The only thing we can get from NPD is monthly top 5s, without numbers, and now no hardware data at all.
Surely a Nielsen or other tracking company should be able to come in and undercut the crap out of NPD?
plagiarize said:^ this is the funniest thing to come out of this news.
if only gaf had supported VG Chartz, they would be competing with NPD?
that's funny in so many ways.