Freyjadour
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Official Suikoden Tierkreis Thread: "The Deepest Handheld RPG of All Time"
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mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
maybe that's their idea of a character arc.... once his character grows and learns, he starts talking like a normal person.JodyAnthony said:
i think the art in this game is gorgeous, and the 3d is definitely ok. must keep going...
SilverLunar
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after getting stuck for 3 hours in that plains area, i desided to go back...and discovered i was in a "different" part of the plains..... 
.... oh well *sigh*
so i advanced through and nooooo
:'''(.
.... oh well *sigh*
so i advanced through and nooooo
Cougar died
Some of the WORST voice acting Ive ever heard in a video game is found in this DS cart. And I've been around awhile so that's saying something!
Thankfully, the battles are fun, fast and look really good at the same time. And of course the music is great. But seriously, why in 2009 are we having to put up with VA this bad from Konami of all places?
Thankfully, the battles are fun, fast and look really good at the same time. And of course the music is great. But seriously, why in 2009 are we having to put up with VA this bad from Konami of all places?
Now, it may just be me, but the manual for this game is probably the least useful I've ever seen.
Can somebody tell me what the hand stat is? I figured out everything else.
Alsomaybetheheroisanadolescentwhoisfullofenergyasadolescentsalwaysseemtobe. OrmaybehechuggedawholebottleofMtnDeworsubsistsonpixistixformeals.
Can somebody tell me what the hand stat is? I figured out everything else.
Alsomaybetheheroisanadolescentwhoisfullofenergyasadolescentsalwaysseemtobe. OrmaybehechuggedawholebottleofMtnDeworsubsistsonpixistixformeals.
Callibretto
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I always assume the hand is for accuracy and the star is for luck
Callibretto
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Fireblend said:
:lol yeah, I assume it's because of cartridge limitation or something, like they only have limited amount of time for voice acting and main character have the most dialogue or something. I think that because the voice acting is much better in anime cutscenes
I just played this game for about 25 minutes. So far its REALLY GOOD. The voice acting doesn't irritate me at all, but I'm sure reading 8 pages of how awful it was lowered my expectations enough for it to be bearable.
This game is absolutely GORGEOUS. The backgrounds all look fantastic, and when you leave your village the overworld really looks fantastic. I really enjoy the art, its more cohesive than any game since II. In 3-5 it was really jarring for me when you got some character that looked straight out of yu gi oh or something, but in this game all the characters seem to be cut from the same cloth if you will; much more believably from one world.
Backdrops are amazing looking, character portraits are fantastic, cut-scenes are awesome, menu system looks great. Honestly, this game looks way better than FF IIIr or FF IVr.
So far, this game for me ranks...
II>Tierkreis>III>I>IV (Haven't played V)
One painful part of this game is that when you save, a really good looking sprite of your main character shows up and walks as a kind of loading... animation. It makes me wish they had done sprites for all the characters, but the 3d models are really good for what they are.
This game is absolutely GORGEOUS. The backgrounds all look fantastic, and when you leave your village the overworld really looks fantastic. I really enjoy the art, its more cohesive than any game since II. In 3-5 it was really jarring for me when you got some character that looked straight out of yu gi oh or something, but in this game all the characters seem to be cut from the same cloth if you will; much more believably from one world.
Backdrops are amazing looking, character portraits are fantastic, cut-scenes are awesome, menu system looks great. Honestly, this game looks way better than FF IIIr or FF IVr.
So far, this game for me ranks...
II>Tierkreis>III>I>IV (Haven't played V)
One painful part of this game is that when you save, a really good looking sprite of your main character shows up and walks as a kind of loading... animation. It makes me wish they had done sprites for all the characters, but the 3d models are really good for what they are.
Tenkai Star
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Sound really good then. Man I have to get my hands on a DS.leroidys said:
shykyoichi
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SilverLunar said:Help i am stuck:
I am at the mission where the west half of the Ch'olui mountains has turned into plains and some of the Forious Roar tribe are supposed to appear there, I reached the plains and there was a mysterious ruins there, i entered it and i am pretty sure i checked the whole place and it is a dead end!
what sould i do?? I left the DS in sleep mode for a while because of this
Answer:
You went to the wrong path. You should go to the plains (another path before you reach the mountain peak) rather than going down the rope (leading to the ruins).
Link Man said:
Skill stat.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
SilverLunar said:after getting stuck for 3 hours in that plains area, i desided to go back...and discovered i was in a "different" part of the plains.....
.... oh well *sigh*
so i advanced through and nooooo:'''(.Cougar died
Is it part of the story? DDDDDDD:
shykyoichi
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Mejilan said:Does anyone know what the canonical name is for the hero in this game?
Manual suggests that it MIGHT be "Genso," but that could just be Konami having some fun...
I'm waiting for the Tierkreis novel/manga. Most of the previous hero names came from those, right?
Callibretto
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leroidys said:
I think that character walking sprites has been in every suikoden. I know Suikoden 5 has it, and it just tease me wanting a full new 2d suikoden with sprites
Mutagenic said:
III (IMHO of course) sucks, haven't played V. Well it doesn't suck, but the art is awful, Hugo is awful, the traveling sucks, the castle sucks, the music is great, the story is pretty good.
I probably shouldn't haver posted such glowing impressions after such a short playtime, but I was just excited that this game seems to be nowhere near the crapfest that many here are painting it.
Callibretto
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Duck Amuck said:
keep in mind it comes from someone who don't like III, Suikoden III is a hit and miss among suikoden fans, some like it, some hate it.
I don't remember much about III storyline, but I remember some emotional scenes in III that imo is better than Tierkreis. I still haven't beat Tierkreis, so it could chance, but so far, I think III has more powerful story. the story in Tierkreis so far is interesting, engaging, but really tame and don't have that powerful emotional impact like other suikoden (except IV)
Robobandit
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pre-order soundtrack/artbook = fail
digital artbook.. wtf.
digital artbook.. wtf.
SilverLunar
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Yeah.Ookami-kun said:
about 12-13 hours.NeoNess said:
So now i am at Lv.36, 23 hours in and reached the part where the story stops making sence,
The old lady in Liu's village talks about the truth of the True/Fales Chronicles and their role in predicting natural disasters and what not, how stuff disappear from a world starts pooping up in another for no real reason and...
oh and when I
freed Astrasia, Chrodechild should have killed her sister in my opinion, it would serve as a better story twist, and this jerk doesn't deserve to live anyway,...
crying
crying
Mejilan said:
That's for sure. Enjoyed my first couple hours with this one. The VA is pretty bad. It's definitely sped up, you can tell because the voices are different (lower) during the anime scenes. That said, the amount of VA is great and makes the game feel more engaging.
I've really only played Suikoden 1, 5 and Tactics, so I'm not that attached to the original universe that much compared to some people. Tierkreis is on the easy side more sure and it's pretty linear so far, but it's been an enjoyable ride to this point for me.
SilverLunar
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I never played a Suikoden game before, I say get this, it is not a bad game at all, the story is the highlight for me so far...although now in my playthrough too much stuff happened in a short time that it stoped making sence, I hope everything clears up soon.Yazus said:Should I get this or not? I never played a Suikoden game I am a JRPG and turn based whore (as an ARPG one). If it's a SPRG I'll hate it tho
Someone give me advices
Callibretto
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SilverLunar said:
it's really tame for a suikoden game, I'm about where you are and there's only
2 deaths, Cougar's death is off screen, and that old lady is near death anyway, and we've only just met her so I don't feel anything, the three empress plot thread could have made an interesting situation, instead, we got no conflict at all, we just leave Janam and that bald king don't even pursue us
Robobandit
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I'm kind of in the middle about III... for me, It didn't get interesting until I had played for 20 hours.
Suikoden V is my favorite Suikoden game.. and I've played I, III and V. I couldn't get into II.. I guess my expectations were too high and I had just played Suikoden I.. I ended up selling it before I really had a chance to play it.
Suikoden V is my favorite Suikoden game.. and I've played I, III and V. I couldn't get into II.. I guess my expectations were too high and I had just played Suikoden I.. I ended up selling it before I really had a chance to play it.
The game starts to pick up in the mining town, I feel. I'm finding it quite addictive, and I love the co-op attacks (even though I've only seen two so far).
My advice: use the stylus, it really is better than the traditional controls for this game.
Oh, and I figured out why I hate Liu's voice: it sounds like Mokuba from Yugioh (or at least the abridged series).
My advice: use the stylus, it really is better than the traditional controls for this game.
Oh, and I figured out why I hate Liu's voice: it sounds like Mokuba from Yugioh (or at least the abridged series).
ChronoKnight
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Just picked this up. I had buyer's remorse before I even bought it. I loved Suikoden I and II, every Suikoden since has been a disappointment for me. What I really want is a JRPG with a really adult story. Something like Suikoden II or FF Tactics, with government and religion, where I, as the player, am questioning what I am doing. But I know that isn't in this game, it is something else entirely, which isn't to say that it will be bad but which does explain my buyer's remorse before even buying it.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Duck Amuck said:
if i could turn off the voices, i'd still have to read this terrible dialogue. seems like every part of this game was done extremely well....and they completely ignored the writing and acting.
Callibretto
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mattiewheels said:
I don't mind the writing at all, I've played jrpg with way worse writing than this (Wild Arms 4 and some tales of games come too mind). I actually thought the writing is one of the thing the game did right.
Hours Left
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Looks like the same font that was used in Retro Game Challenge.
Anyway, just got the game. Starting now.
Anyway, just got the game. Starting now.