How about if someone doesn't want to buy the upgrade but wants the bug fixes?
I don't think there's any serious problem with Ori in its current state that could be called a "bug" necessitating a free "bugfix" update.
I have to let a good portion of the opening theme music play before I start the game because if I attempt to load it as soon as I'm prompted, it locks up and boots me back to the Xbone's UI. I think that counts.I don't think there's any serious problem with Ori in its current state that could be called a "bug" necessitating a free "bugfix" update.
Moon Studios added on Facebook that "People that already own the game will be able to upgrade for a very comfortable price."
My guess is it will be $5.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...lind-forest-is-getting-an-expansion-this-year
I am guessing it will be a few dollars/pounds to upgrade from that
I have to let a good portion of the opening theme music play before I start the game because if I attempt to load it as soon as I'm prompted, it locks up and boots me back to the Xbone's UI. I think that counts.
How recent is the patch? I bought and beat the game about a month back. The title screen freezing is the only serious issue I've encountered, but it's one I can trigger reliably.There was a patch for the Xbox One version that, if I recall correctly, was supposed to address this issue as well as the save glitch with Instant On. Is that still happening for you after that patch?
How recent is the patch? I bought and beat the game about a month back. The title screen freezing is the only serious issue I've encountered, but it's one I can trigger reliably.
Why are you so cynical?
Ori and the Blind Forest came out five months ago, and they're announcing a new version + DLC which will come out probably months from now.
It's not just cynicism actually. it's like an intentionally, fully embraced pessimistic mindset. It accomplishes nothing while making you personally enjoy games less because you're attacking things for stupid (if not inaccurate) reasons.
I just don't get why anyone would go about their day thinking in this way. It's just really sad and depressing to think about trying to put myself into this mindset, especially over a game as beautiful and optimistic as Ori.
Is it really that cynical?
My guess is it will be $5.
Still haven't played this one. On my to do list.
Still haven't bought this, but I meant to. Worth holding out at this point? Is it a long game?
Still haven't bought this, but I meant to. Worth holding out at this point? Is it a long game?
I just posted in the OT yesterday but it's totally dead. This game is nothing short of a masterpiece. I can't believe a gaffer was one of the lead devs! I looked at his thread history and it's so interesting, he asked some really simple game-related questions in 2013 saying he was working on a metroidvania/zelda/whatever type game. Who would have thought he was working on this masterpiece?
And anyone complaining about the escapes needs to get gud. I beat the first one last night after 10 or 15 tries, so incredibly rewarding and that...gah damn.cutscene that came after
Is it really that cynical?
'Remastering' a game after 7 months on the same platforms has never been a thing before, so of course people are gonna feel weird about it. It would be more understandable if it released for PS4 simultaneously, but that's not the case.
I definitely don't mind developers improving their games but it shouldn't be behind a paywall and not being exclusive to a "Definitive Edition", suggesting that the original is the lesser, now dead game with no developer support.
An entirely new product shouldn't be needed. Improvements and various content are added to all sorts of games regularly - why couldn't it be done here? I would love to buy DLC for Ori but honestly, it's more likely I'll submit a refund instead. This is not a trend I want to support in this industry.
Okay, I'll try to shed some more light onto why we decided to make a whole new version:
After the release of Ori, we got a lot of feedback from people asking for more, DLC and the likes, so we started kicking ideas around how we could actually bring in more content. Since Ori is a Metroidvania, just adding more levels isn't actually that simple. It made the most amount of sense to implement the new areas nicely into the overworld, take that opportunity to tell some story-bits we wanted to tell and just create this perfect package instead of just adding a few new levels that you access from a menu, just shoehorning it in.
Around the same time, Microsoft reached out and asked us regarding making a Windows 10 port of Ori. So then all these questions popped up, would we just do a straight port of a game that came out a almost a year ago at that point and have people still buy the DLC separately? Similar to the GOTY SKUs other developers published, we thought it'd make the most sense to just wrap all of that stuff into something simple:
One version that contains both the DLC AND a content-update of the original game that addresses all the requests we received over the past couple of months AND that version will also support Windows 10 natively. And that's our Definitive Edition.
I understand that some people, especially those that haven't seen yet how much we're adding, would just want to get this update for free, but the fact of the matter is that we had the entire team working on the DE for quite some time already and it's very costly to add all this stuff and make all these changes. We literally couldn't afford to give this amount of content away for free.
We sold Ori at a modest 20$ and trust me, if we could potentially afford to release the DE for free, we absolutely would. But with all the content that we're adding, I think asking a few dollars for DLC isn't too much to ask for.
We're a small studio, we put a lot of passion and love into the games we're making and we want people to get great value. I think Ori was very good value, but we totally agree with some of the things fans asked us for and we thought we owe it to them to go in and just perfect the experience while adding all the DLC as well. I want people to still be able to play Ori 10-15 years from now and still enjoy the hell out of it, just like I still enjoy playing Super Mario Bros. 3 to this day and if we can add the DLC and perfect the experience for a small price of admission, I think that's worth it.
Anyway, I hope that clears things up a bit
Anyway, I hope that clears things up a bit
My guess is it will be $5.
Okay, I'll try to shed some more light onto why we decided to make a whole new version:
After the release of Ori, we got a lot of feedback from people asking for more, DLC and the likes, so we started kicking ideas around how we could actually bring in more content. Since Ori is a Metroidvania, just adding more levels isn't actually that simple. It made the most amount of sense to implement the new areas nicely into the overworld, take that opportunity to tell some story-bits we wanted to tell and just create this perfect package instead of just adding a few new levels that you access from a menu, just shoehorning it in.
Around the same time, Microsoft reached out and asked us regarding making a Windows 10 port of Ori. So then all these questions popped up, would we just do a straight port of a game that came out a almost a year ago at that point and have people still buy the DLC separately? Similar to the GOTY SKUs other developers published, we thought it'd make the most sense to just wrap all of that stuff into something simple:
One version that contains both the DLC AND a content-update of the original game that addresses all the requests we received over the past couple of months AND that version will also support Windows 10 natively. And that's our Definitive Edition.
I understand that some people, especially those that haven't seen yet how much we're adding, would just want to get this update for free, but the fact of the matter is that we had the entire team working on the DE for quite some time already and it's very costly to add all this stuff and make all these changes. We literally couldn't afford to give this amount of content away for free.
We sold Ori at a modest 20$ and trust me, if we could potentially afford to release the DE for free, we absolutely would. But with all the content that we're adding, I think asking a few dollars for DLC isn't too much to ask for.
We're a small studio, we put a lot of passion and love into the games we're making and we want people to get great value. I think Ori was very good value, but we totally agree with some of the things fans asked us for and we thought we owe it to them to go in and just perfect the experience while adding all the DLC as well. I want people to still be able to play Ori 10-15 years from now and still enjoy the hell out of it, just like I still enjoy playing Super Mario Bros. 3 to this day and if we can add the DLC and perfect the experience for a small price of admission, I think that's worth it.
Anyway, I hope that clears things up a bit
Really appreciate you taking the time to break this down for everyone.
By "Windows 10" you mean the Windows 10 store, right? I assume the DE will still run on Windows 7 if you bought it on Steam.
Would like an answer to this as well. New customer looking to purchase Ori when the DE comes out, but I don't have any plans to update to Windows 10 at this time.
I'll buy this dlc when it comes out. I thought the game was splendid. Not sure why some people believe this should be free. The original was a pretty good value for the price.
The guy's posted a bunch of times that the price will be reasonable for existing owners, but he's not going to tell us yet whether it's a DLC upgrade for the original game or a second release that's discounted when you already have the first version.
Yeah this is an issue bigger than just Ori. To me it seems like MS is gonna require windows 10 for their games.
I've yet to finish Ori, which leaves me wondering if I should wait for this upgrade?
I ask because I don't have too much time for games, and I'm concerned that should I complete Ori in its current state, seeing the new areas in the DE would require starting over. I'd rather stop playing it now and experience those new areas without (potentially) having to start over again.
Okay, I'll try to shed some more light onto why we decided to make a whole new version:
After the release of Ori, we got a lot of feedback from people asking for more, DLC and the likes, so we started kicking ideas around how we could actually bring in more content. Since Ori is a Metroidvania, just adding more levels isn't actually that simple. It made the most amount of sense to implement the new areas nicely into the overworld, take that opportunity to tell some story-bits we wanted to tell and just create this perfect package instead of just adding a few new levels that you access from a menu, just shoehorning it in.
Around the same time, Microsoft reached out and asked us regarding making a Windows 10 port of Ori. So then all these questions popped up, would we just do a straight port of a game that came out a almost a year ago at that point and have people still buy the DLC separately? Similar to the GOTY SKUs other developers published, we thought it'd make the most sense to just wrap all of that stuff into something simple:
One version that contains both the DLC AND a content-update of the original game that addresses all the requests we received over the past couple of months AND that version will also support Windows 10 natively. And that's our Definitive Edition.
I understand that some people, especially those that haven't seen yet how much we're adding, would just want to get this update for free, but the fact of the matter is that we had the entire team working on the DE for quite some time already and it's very costly to add all this stuff and make all these changes. We literally couldn't afford to give this amount of content away for free.
We sold Ori at a modest 20$ and trust me, if we could potentially afford to release the DE for free, we absolutely would. But with all the content that we're adding, I think asking a few dollars for DLC isn't too much to ask for.
We're a small studio, we put a lot of passion and love into the games we're making and we want people to get great value. I think Ori was very good value, but we totally agree with some of the things fans asked us for and we thought we owe it to them to go in and just perfect the experience while adding all the DLC as well. I want people to still be able to play Ori 10-15 years from now and still enjoy the hell out of it, just like I still enjoy playing Super Mario Bros. 3 to this day and if we can add the DLC and perfect the experience for a small price of admission, I think that's worth it.
Anyway, I hope that clears things up a bit
Yeah this is an issue bigger than just Ori. To me it seems like MS is gonna require windows 10 for their games. Hope that's not the case but will wait and see what happens.
Really appreciate you taking the time to break this down for everyone.
By "Windows 10" you mean the Windows 10 store, right? I assume the DE will still run on Windows 7 if you bought it on Steam.
The Ori Definitive Edition will be released on Windows 10, Steam and Xbox One - On the Windows side, it'll just run on everything again. For Windows 10, we're also supporting all the features of the Xbox App, Achievements and the likes.