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Playstation Plus Thread 2: How do I hold all these games?
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superNESjoe
Member
I've wanted Spelunky on PS4 really badly, and would love to not have to buy it again. I already own it on 360 and again on Steam from a sale.
Arkham Asylum sold six million copies across all platforms, in a world where there are over a hundred million gamers. Again, you guys are not the only people who exist.
There is no problem sharing your view that this month is not for you. That's cool. This month may have games you've already played. But to try to extrapolate that nonsense for everyone is bullshit. Arkham Asylum is a great game which most gamers have not played, by actual definition. There is no limit on how long ago a game came out that should be acceptable. There should be no limit on Sony to choose games that can maximize its impact for all gamers, period, no matter how experienced they are or not.
Serpens007
Member
Well, of course there are people complaining because of that, but you are quoting me. And my complain, as well as the complaint of others, is about the quality of PS3 titles this past months.
Indies for PS4 is understandable, most of them are good. For Vita they are welcomed, they play so much better there. PS3 is where we need a mix, but a quality mix, and there, my friend, is where a lot of people think that there is a problem.
Sure, I get why people are sad when they have played the games already, but Spelunky and Dust are legitimately great games if critical reception (metacritic) is any indication.
Coupled with the PS+ version of Driveclub and this might be my favorite month for PS4 so far. Haven't played either of the above games yet.
Coupled with the PS+ version of Driveclub and this might be my favorite month for PS4 so far. Haven't played either of the above games yet.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Assuming the rumored list is true...
--PS4--
Dust: An Elysian Tail (New port, 83-85 Metacritic based on platform)
Spelunky (New port, 83-90 Metacritic based on platform)
--PS3--
Arkham Asylum (91 Metacritic, 2009 game)
D&D: Chronicles of Mystara (83 Metacritic, 2013 game)
--Vita--
Rainbow Moon (70 Metacritic, 2012-2013 game)
Pix the Cat (New Game)
So you get 1 new game, 2 new ports (both for critically acclaimed games), 2 games that are about a year or two old (with decent reviews), and an old blockbuster. If Arkham Asylum was replaced with another quality blockbuster game that was more recent, I'd say this was an excellent month, but even as it is, it's pretty good.
--PS4--
Dust: An Elysian Tail (New port, 83-85 Metacritic based on platform)
Spelunky (New port, 83-90 Metacritic based on platform)
--PS3--
Arkham Asylum (91 Metacritic, 2009 game)
D&D: Chronicles of Mystara (83 Metacritic, 2013 game)
--Vita--
Rainbow Moon (70 Metacritic, 2012-2013 game)
Pix the Cat (New Game)
So you get 1 new game, 2 new ports (both for critically acclaimed games), 2 games that are about a year or two old (with decent reviews), and an old blockbuster. If Arkham Asylum was replaced with another quality blockbuster game that was more recent, I'd say this was an excellent month, but even as it is, it's pretty good.
DrROBschiz
Member
Plus is never going to be a bastion for New AAA games
Its mostly a great back catalog motivator to catch people that might have skipped some games.
I know Indie games are proving to be an exception here and for good reason. Its great exposure to up and coming studios
That said PS+ is still an excellent value even when the list isn't always appealing to everyone. At least I am not seeing shovelware on the list.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The fact is, PS+ started as a service serving one device :- The PS3. Its "golden years" was really only 2012 and a chunk of 2013, when the PS4 didn't exist and the Vita wasnt getting all that much either.
Once Sony started to serve 3 devices evenly across the board, there was always going to be a dip for one platform. I dont understand how people cannot see this. 6 games is a better deal than 2.
Because you personally couldnt afford the games you were getting is neither here or there. The service was never meant to subsidise peoples gaming habits, its supposed to complement them.
The future if Plus is indies, niche games and the odd AAA title here and there. Its not going to significantly improve and people just have to accept it.
Siren pls.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
RE6 would have pissed some people off, since it was just on sale for ten bucks like two weeks ago.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Spelunky is one of the best games ever made, nice to have a new version for free.
I could not get past the character art of Dust, it creeps me out. Reminds me of Sonic the Hedgehog DeviantArt.
PS3 selection is really solid.
I could not get past the character art of Dust, it creeps me out. Reminds me of Sonic the Hedgehog DeviantArt.
PS3 selection is really solid.
EU too?
Sony can include what they want, that's fine, and people can be vocal about their dissatisfaction as much as they like.
I think Sony have done an embarrassing job of PS+ since PS4 launched. Initially there were debates and the frequent response was 'it's too early in the system's life', which I never really agreed with, but it was a reasonable point. Maybe the retail games were just around the corner, but they weren't, they're not, and there's no sign they will be. Vita's + was incredible from the first month, because the Vita is a bomb, PS4's a huge hit, you need + to play online, so Sony have absolutely no incentive to improve the offerings, in fact, as their dominance grows, they have good reason to make it even worse.
Yes, there are billions of people who haven't played Batman, there are a good seventy five million PS3 owners that haven't. Those people have chosen not to buy it though. It's not an missed gem, it's not a rare print classic that's expensive.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Just to be clear, I own arkham asylum. The fact is, its a digital copy which to me has value in itself.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
And if we're talking about the "golden period" of PS+, allow me to point out February 2012:
I mean, holy shit, what a fucking month.
I mean, holy shit, what a fucking month.
Ever since the introduction of the Vita to PS+, it's always been 6 games a month. It just used to be 4 PS3 games and 2 Vita games. Now it's 2 PS4, 2 PS3, and 2 Vita games. The amount of games you get didn't really go up, but they do have to support one more platform so it's understandable that they take games away from somewhere else.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
This line of reasoning can be used for every game in existence.
Oh that's amazing that you know the minds of all the people who didn't buy it. How lovely you know their reasons for not purchasing it.
I mean, surely there's not about five trillion other possibilities for why they never got it; surely they just have no remote interest in every touching it. Every game that has ever sold and is old has sold to exactly the amount of people who ever had interest in it!
Also, I didn't know PS+ purpose was either a.) to only share 'rare print classics' or b.) 'missed gems'
You guys are hilarious.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
B-b-b-but their old games! And ive already played the sequel!
The PS+ Edition, yeah. In addition to two other games.
Did I say they have no interest? No, I said they've chosen not to buy it. Did I give a reason why they didn't? No.
Good, then you agree. Arkham Asylum being on the service gives many many many people the new opportunity to play it when they haven't before.
im sorry but you have too high of expectations. The fact that the console has come out in less then a year still, of course it won't give away triple AAA games but saying there are no triple AAA games coming out for plus ever is saddening.
Palette Swap
Member
I'm going to throw a table or something if people bitch like that next month when we get BoI: Rebirth.
I might even fucking swear.
I might even fucking swear.
King Tubby
Member
I have most of those announced games, thankfully NA is going to be different. I do think the games on + have declined in quality somewhat lately. The last 3 months as a PS3 owner have not been very impressive. Hoard and Sportsfriends made for a nothing month.
That said, I paid like $30 for a year of PS+ last Black Friday. I'm still definitely re-upping if I get a deal for like $40, it's worth it just for one or two games like Dragon's Dogma or X-Com or BF3. I would want to check out BF4's trial but 32 GB download? lol
I agree with your points, and don't expect PS+ for PS4 to be as stellar as it has been for PS3, but there is no doubt in my mind that retail PS4 games will start to show sometime in 2015. The console hasn't even been out a full year yet and the retail library hasn't filled out that much.
That said, I paid like $30 for a year of PS+ last Black Friday. I'm still definitely re-upping if I get a deal for like $40, it's worth it just for one or two games like Dragon's Dogma or X-Com or BF3. I would want to check out BF4's trial but 32 GB download? lol
I agree with your points, and don't expect PS+ for PS4 to be as stellar as it has been for PS3, but there is no doubt in my mind that retail PS4 games will start to show sometime in 2015. The console hasn't even been out a full year yet and the retail library hasn't filled out that much.
yes, next week.
toythatkills
Member
Aside from some generic FPS thing, I don't really see what that line-up would be missing as far as genres go. I mean, what more do people want? There'd be a great spread of stuff, especially when you include driveclub.
It's not really "I want better games," is it? It's just "I want more expensive games." It's the only reason people want Knack, it's because it costs $60 and Spelunky is $15 and so Knack is four times as valuable. It's also fucking shit, but that's not important, is it?
It's not really "I want better games," is it? It's just "I want more expensive games." It's the only reason people want Knack, it's because it costs $60 and Spelunky is $15 and so Knack is four times as valuable. It's also fucking shit, but that's not important, is it?
It had Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket Powered Battle Cars, that makes it a great month by this game alone
SerTapTap
Member
I wish they'd still do PSX games and even minis from time to time. Given the amount of bitching a brand new indie causes these days I guess they don't think it'd be worth it though.
Hexa
Member
If Rainbow Moon has cross-buy with PS3 I will be satisfied for the month. I know that when it was sold it did not, but there is precedent with Dragons Crown so I'm still hoping.
Oh wait it's the EU list. Hoping there'll be something or other different for PS3 in NA. Or at least cross buy Rainbow Moon.
Oh wait it's the EU list. Hoping there'll be something or other different for PS3 in NA. Or at least cross buy Rainbow Moon.
Oh, get off of it.
If you are free to post any opinion, I'm free to disagree with it as well since it's an opinion of my own. Turtles all the way down.
It's the point of having an actual message board instead of a series of blog posts. Discussion highlights and differentiates the reasoning behind thoughtful opinions and unsubstantiated ones. Don't take my posts as complaining that people are complaining about PS+ -- as Amir0x pointed out, people are free to like what they like: But that doesn't mean that all opinions come from equally strong footing.
Plus the games can't be too old! And they can't have sold too much, or else too many people played them! And they must be the highest rated games in their series.. wait, except if they're too old! And they can't be indies! Or they can, but those indies must be brand new!
OnionPowder
Member
No AAA games all shit
FlutterPuffs
Member
.............Spelunky PS4?
That's making me shiver. So many hours played on the Vita. Not sure if I want to go through that again on the PS4. Man.
That's making me shiver. So many hours played on the Vita. Not sure if I want to go through that again on the PS4. Man.
Winter John
Member
I own both Spelunky and Dust, so it's another disappointing month for me. My PS+ sub runs out next week. I doubt I'll be renewing it anytime soon. Now that Sony have paywalled their multiplayer service, I'd like to see them introduce a lower priced tier which offers the service without the free games. I can happily live without those.
Pix the Cat, man. Pix-the-fucking-Cat.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Personally I'm in the very small minority who still thinks PS+ was better before the IGC changeover. I miss PSOne Classics and random not-indie-but-not-full-retail PSN games.
dugdug
Banned
What? How does this make any sense? How does it benefit them?
HawksWinStanley
Member
I don't feel like I'm getting a great value with PS+ anymore. I don't mind indies but outside of the first few months on PS4 I haven't cared for any of the games they've offered. I'm not saying they're bad since most of these games get good reviews but they're just not for me. People were spraying their shorts over Velocity (and rightly so, it's a $20 game for "free") but I played it for about 20 minutes before I lost interest.
I'd cancel if multiplayer wasn't behind a paywall. DriveClub is its only saving grace for me.
I'd cancel if multiplayer wasn't behind a paywall. DriveClub is its only saving grace for me.
Sony could give out GTA V next month and you'd still have people complaining that they've already played it.
toythatkills
Member
When it was announced they said there'd be some new Daily Challenge stuff to keep it interesting, so jump right back in
Think of all the hilarious death replays you could post on PS4 with the share button! I hope it has new trophies, some of the old ones from XBLA that never made it across.
Vita EU launch, June '12.
Vita EU IGC, Nov '12, Gravity Rush and Uncharted.
By June '13, Wipeout, Lumines, MGS HD, and Virtue's Last Reward had all been added. Not only were we getting full retail releases, we were getting arguably the most desirable titles on the platform.
Don't cling to the 'first year' argument, it's simply not true.
Because paying to add something cheap to PS+, that few people want, is going to be massively cheaper than paying for a major game. Anyone who wants to play online needs + regardless, they can't abstain because they're not happy with the IGC, they're paying regardless, so the least of that money Sony has to spend on IGC games, the more they keep.
SerTapTap
Member
What?! You have my attention