PuppetMaster
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PlayStation Vita TV Already Sold Out on Amazon Japan
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Someone needs to read the faq
I bet Sony have a dude reading all the Vita TV threads right now, who's just copy and pasting all the questions and answers for the website material for the western release of this.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Murasaki Baby and Tearaway are designed from the ground up to be portable experiences, hence the extensive use of touch.
One of the knocks against Vita used by detractors is that they don't want gimped console games with useless gimmicks like charcoal rubbing.
If they can patch out the awkward touch stuff in Gravity Rush, VitaTV with Ds4 could end up the best way to play that game.
Theonik
Member
Not a sourcing issue, I would guess Sony isn't going to be making 200k of those things for launch considering how bold a move it is even if they can. That being said, their final allocation might be orders of maginitude more than they expected depending on demand. But avoiding stuffing retailers is smart.
PS Vita TV actually incudes the HDMI cable though. (scroll to the specs where it lists package contents for both SKUs) Apple is just cheap, though to be fair HDMI cables are cheap and a lot of people have plenty of spares.
Considering this is a game system though including 1080p would probably have been smart. Also the Vita should scale a lot better at 1080p than in 720p so that's another thing to consider.
ProcrasDANation
Neo Member
Wonder whether in the future gaikai could make this thing ridiculous in its potential.
MikeE21286
Member
I realllly want one of these for my ps4.
I'll instantly buy one if released in NA
I'll instantly buy one if released in NA
Iacobellis
Junior Member
"Introducing, the Sony BRAVITA TV!"
It will obviously result in more Vita game sales, as that's what the thing plays. If it sells at the exact same sluggish rate as the Vita handheld you're still effectively doubling user base and software sales.
The level of it's success and therefore level of it's software sales will dictate just how much appeal the platform will have to developers, but you'd be crazy to think that this hasn't made all publishers sit up and take notice of the platform again. It's a very compelling new angle with a killer price point.
Not really.
It may well be that the primary consumer who will buy Vita TV is someone who already owns a Vita and just wants the ability to play those games on tv. If that's primarily the case you're not doubling the userbase or selling more software..you're simply giving existing users a new way to play.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Not going to happen hahaha
Baki
Member
Developers won't know that though.
Also its incredibly unlikely to have a 100% attach rate between Vita owners and VITA TV owners. Even something as significant as 30% is very unlikely.So from 5m a year to about 10m. Its a nice increase.
KimonoNoNo
Member
I'd love to know what Sony's sales expectations for this thing were and what they are now.
For as far as we know they may of just thrown this out there and don't have any intention of releasing it outside of Japan.
For as far as we know they may of just thrown this out there and don't have any intention of releasing it outside of Japan.
Baki
Member
I don't think you bring out the President of SCE just to announce a throwaway product.
Would/will snap one of these in a heartbeat for UK. Could grab this and a launch PS4 for the price of an X1. Its crazy how well this cheap little device will compliment the capabilites and ecosystem. Even just in the second tv streaming for PS4 is worth it, let alone being a standalone console + streaming media box.
Would be maximum awesome if you can use it to stream local multiplayer feeds to a second screen rather than using split screen. Would be a game changer for me.
Would be maximum awesome if you can use it to stream local multiplayer feeds to a second screen rather than using split screen. Would be a game changer for me.
Stealthcobra
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You obviously didn't watch the video of the event
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Looks like it will do well in Japan.
greatestjediever
Member
I honestly wouldn't mind. I've kind of gotten used to playing things on a bigger screen and only want to use my Vita on planes now (if I'm not preoccupied by my iPad). Truthfully, I may not have ever bought a Vita (despite its great hardware) if I knew this was coming. But hey, if you don't canabalize you're own market, someone else will do it for you, right?
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Agreed and that's primarily why I wish it success.
But it feels like people will be purchasing this as an accessory to the PS4 which means it might not necessarily lead to Vita software sales. And gave devs have already shifted their attention to nextgen platforms while also creating games for the current gen. How they can make some time, space and free up some money for a decent AAA Vita game is beyond me.
$100 is a brilliant move. But I want to see some Sony marketing muscle behind this.
Blue Submarine No. 6
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I'm the same in NA, and I don't think we're alone. I'm not surprised Amazon Japan sold out of the initial shipment, because at a $99 I think these things will sell like crazy. I'll buy two at launch for the household TVs that won't have a PS4 attached, but the huge PSX/PSP/Vita library combined with Netflix access in a tiny little box makes this a tremendous value. I think Sony has a winner here. They absolutely need to release a conventional AV style remote for it, though...
I'm curious whether they will start patching/updating games that are major to be compatible with it specifically. I'm sure with the L2/R2 buttons and L3/R3 clicking, it can remove the need for the touchscreens for most games. I realize some of them work off specific actions, but it's not always absolutely necessary, if the Vita TV did really well, they could probably make more specific modifications to the games too.
Hell, if the Vita TV ends up being more popular than the Vita itself, most games will probably just stop making heavy use of touch screens, which is great as far as I'm concerned.
Kind of seems like a huge waste to not use the PS4 controller though, but I know it would make bundles more expensive. They could have offloaded certain touchscreen functionality to the PS4 controller, even if it would not be quite the same.
Hell, if the Vita TV ends up being more popular than the Vita itself, most games will probably just stop making heavy use of touch screens, which is great as far as I'm concerned.
Kind of seems like a huge waste to not use the PS4 controller though, but I know it would make bundles more expensive. They could have offloaded certain touchscreen functionality to the PS4 controller, even if it would not be quite the same.
Sorta Maximus
Member
I hope this helps the Vita, I love the hardware but it needs more software that interest me.
I'm curious whether they will start patching/updating games that are major to be compatible with it specifically. I'm sure with the L2/R2 buttons and L3/R3 clicking, it can remove the need for the touchscreens for most games. I realize some of them work off specific actions, but it's not always absolutely necessary, if the Vita TV did really well, they could probably make more specific modifications to the games too.
Hell, if the Vita TV ends up being more popular than the Vita itself, most games will probably just stop making heavy use of touch screens, which is great as far as I'm concerned.
Kind of seems like a huge waste to not use the PS4 controller though, but I know it would make bundles more expensive. They could have offloaded certain touchscreen functionality to the PS4 controller, even if it would not be quite the same.
DS4 support will be patched in later so I guess it's still pretty awesome
Unpossible, there's no NFL in it.
RPGCrazied
Member
Hope it makes it here, though there isn't to many Vita games that I must play, except for maybe Persona 4 golden. There is however a slew of PSP games I'd like to play, question is if they are even compatible. Like Crisis Core isn't. That should get the HD treatment anyway, some year.
DS4 support will be patched in later so I guess it's still pretty awesome
Yeah I suspect it will be, it just seems like, say they release it now, it sells well, everyone goes and updates their games so they are compatible, then DS4 comes out, all of a sudden you got touch screen, though obviously would not work identical to the Vita ones, does everyone go back and modify their games again?
Though I think it's wishful thinking anyone will change anything... I really want to play Gravity Rush with a nice standard controller though, everytime I go to play I fall in love with the feel and look of the game but those controls always turn me off.
This thing has massive potential at that price.
A huge number of games from:
Vita
Ps1
Psp
PS mobile
PS+
This plus netflix and other non gaming aspects cover the casual crowd nicely.
Add in ps4 streaming and that brings in the hardcore.
Add in future potential Gaikai support for ps3 plus possibly even ps4 and this thing could be amazing.
A huge number of games from:
Vita
Ps1
Psp
PS mobile
PS+
This plus netflix and other non gaming aspects cover the casual crowd nicely.
Add in ps4 streaming and that brings in the hardcore.
Add in future potential Gaikai support for ps3 plus possibly even ps4 and this thing could be amazing.
Indeed. It's well under the impulse buy price threshold, and it's appeal and conveniences are both tangible and readily apparent. Particularly for families or those in share houses. No brainer as far as I'm concerned.
KimonoNoNo
Member
No I didn't, it was on way too early for me.
3rdamention
Member
Wow, nobody even said that, especially because of VitaTv. Why even start spouting console wars over this?
Yep, if they market it right, it's a box you attach to your TV for $100 and turn it into a sort of Smart TV. One that also plays a huge library of games.
Oppo
Member
Well you wouldn't necessarily need one with HDMI-CEC... I use my Panny TV remote to control the PS3 all the time.
Then again the PS3 dedicated AV remote is Bluetooth, wonder if that would just work on Vita TV as-is...
Down the road, and through Gaikai, this thing will also be able to stream PS2 and PS3 games.
You both are forgetting the thing is 100 bucks...
Its pretty much selling itself at that price.. even the 150 for the full package isn't a big difference
metsallica
Member
Anyone preorder + tenso.com it to the US? Thinking about doing so... Not sure what retailer to pick now that Amazon is sold out though, as I see it's available at Yodobashi and Bic. Anywhere else?
Jeez, if they attach Gaikai streaming to this thing, which they probably will, then it will basically be the Netflix of all Playstation games. But it's even more than that because you can stream your PS4, play your vita, and use every digital psx game you own. That's so insane.
randiangamer
Banned
Refurbished ULTRA COOOMBO FTW?
Wonder if they are waiting on Gakai to launch in NA before bringing VTV over.
randiangamer
Banned
randiangamer
Banned
Already won what!? next gen its a 10 years long story and Sony has won even without shipping a single unit? Geez...
BronsonLee
Member
Things I've learned from VitaTV threads so far:
Gonzo and randiangamer are goofballs
I like toast
I like waffles (I see a pattern here)
For the most part, everyone sees it as a really good idea, but its potential depends on Gaikai
And yeah, not surprised Amazon Japan sold out. It's probably a Chromecast situation of 'I want it! I didn't know I wanted it, BUT I DO'
Gonzo and randiangamer are goofballs
I like toast
I like waffles (I see a pattern here)
For the most part, everyone sees it as a really good idea, but its potential depends on Gaikai
And yeah, not surprised Amazon Japan sold out. It's probably a Chromecast situation of 'I want it! I didn't know I wanted it, BUT I DO'
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