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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.

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What do you think I mean when I say "better welfare state" exactly?

I wouldn't do it (because I have a conscience) but I can't say that I'm upset that they're giving these rural states what they voted for.

But why is 40 hours this perfect number? I don't think people are saying don't have people work. I think people are saying continue the work of prior generations that knocked us down from 70 hour work weeks to 60 to 50 to 40 all while increasing weekly wages despite working less.
 
What do you think I mean when I say "better welfare state" exactly?

I wouldn't do it (because I have a conscience) but I can't say that I'm upset that they're giving these rural states what they voted for.

Yeah I guess with further thought those states in turn would just squeeze their vulnerable populations more. Hmm....

In the modern service economy, people are the primary means of production!

Masturbation joke.
 
So the new front page of Trump's personal propaganda tabloid is terrifying.
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sphagnum

Banned
In the modern service economy, people are the primary means of production!

So then they ought not to have to sell their labor, which is their own actions, and in effect make themselves wage slaves. They ought to have control over their own personhood. Which, realistically, they do not.
 

kirblar

Member
But why is 40 hours this perfect number? I don't think people are saying don't have people work. I think people are saying continue the work of prior generations that knocked us down from 70 hour work weeks to 60 to 50 to 40 all while increasing weekly wages despite working less.
It's not, but labor is also a limited resource and we're going deeper and deeper into a world where many positions need 24/7 staffing. (Health Care, Financial fraud, etc.)
So then they ought not to have to sell their labor, which is their own actions, and in effect make themselves wage slaves. They ought to have control over their own personhood. Which, realistically, they do not.
People don't have the choice to go to college, pick a major, move, start a new career?
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The Committee for a Responsible Budget isn't thrilled with Trump's proposed tax cuts.

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/fiscal-factcheck-how-much-will-trumps-tax-plan-cost

Love this little nugget in there:

With interest costs, a $5.5 trillion tax plan would be enough to increase debt to 111 percent of Gross Domestic Product (compared to 89 percent of GDP in CBO's baseline) by 2027. That would be higher than any time in U.S. history, and no achievable amount of economic growth could finance it.

Party of fiscal responsibility!
 
So the new front page of Trump's personal propaganda tabloid is terrifying.

That's gotta be a screen cap from the cgi intro of some naval RTS.

I like how the same cover adoring Trump calls Bill O'Reilly a "Sex creep."

I'd also really like to see our "8 enemies" enumerated.

Hmm...

1. North Korea
2. China
3. Iran
4. Err...
5. Probably not Russia
6. Middle Eastern nation #12
7. Still probably not Russia
8. Ukraine?
 
Can someone tell me why the Tories caucus with the much further right European Parliamentary caucus instead of the center-right one that all the other center-right parties are a part of? Not that it'll matter in 2 years, but.
 

sphagnum

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People don't have the choice to go to college, pick a major, move, start a new career?

Do you think those things exist in perfect vacuums that are not influenced by the need to earn a paycheck from others who own businesses privately? We can say that people have ownership over themselves but realistically we have to sell ourselves to someone else, at least for a certain amount of hours a day. And for many of us those are very many hours.

I enjoy a number of intellectual pursuits but my time to pursue them is severely curtailed by the fact that I have to work and have no control over that work outside of what my employer delegates to me to do once at the workplace. I don't get to have any say in it. That's the case for the majority of people. And once I get home, do I really feel like reading policy papers or philosophy or just chilling out and playing Zelda and reading Star Wars comics? That need to structure life around capitalism and it's subsequent effects, I believe, helps keep a lot of people ignorant.
 

kirblar

Member
Yes, you trade your time for money, which you trade for things and services that have taken other people's time.

The issue is that wages and productivity stopped tracking with each other due to technological revolution. We need to work to buffer the negatives this is going to have at the bottom of the totem pole.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Niels Lesniewski‏ @nielslesniewski

When I asked Chairman Corker if the North Korea briefing trip to the White House was worthwhile, he told me "I'm not sure"
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sphagnum

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Yes, you trade your time for money, which you trade for things and services that have taken other people's time.

The issue is that wages and productivity stopped tracking with each other due to technological revolution. We need to work to buffer the negatives this is going to have at the bottom of the totem pole.

I wonder why wages and productivity stopped tracking together.

Could it be because private individuals who control the companies made that decision without input from the workers...?
 

kirblar

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I wonder why wages and productivity stopped tracking together.

Could it be because private individuals who control the companies made that decision without input from the workers...?
Yes, the workers weren't going to like being replaced by hyperefficient robots.

That doesn't mean that them being replaced by hyperefficient robots was a bad thing!
 

sphagnum

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Yes, the workers weren't going to like being replaced by hyperefficient robots.

That doesn't mean that them being replaced by hyperefficient robots was a bad thing!

No it doesn't, but they might like reducing their time and still making the same amount of money or even more money by being in charge of the robots themselves.

Instead of having this convoluted and unnecessary system where other people own the robots and get to fire and ruin the lives of workers and then maybe we can tax those people if we're lucky and kind of sort of provide them welfare but only if we can get enough people elected in favor of it which will be tough because the robot owning fucks use their money to spread racist propaganda to make white voters think black people and Mexicans are stealing your hard earned money that they struggled to earn in competition with a robot who took their old job.
 
That's gotta be a screen cap from the cgi intro of some naval RTS.

I like how the same cover adoring Trump calls Bill O'Reilly a "Sex creep."

I'd also really like to see our "8 enemies" enumerated.

Hmm...

1. North Korea
2. China
3. Iran
4. Err...
5. Probably not Russia
6. Middle Eastern nation #12
7. Still probably not Russia
8. Ukraine?

1. California
2. Canada
3. Arnold Schwarzenegger
4. Fred Trump's expectations
5.
Enemies of
Russia
6. Normal sized gloves
7. The unstoppable ravages of time
8. Mirrors
 
That's gotta be a screen cap from the cgi intro of some naval RTS.

I like how the same cover adoring Trump calls Bill O'Reilly a "Sex creep."

I'd also really like to see our "8 enemies" enumerated.

Hmm...

1. North Korea
2. China
3. Iran
4. Err...
5. Probably not Russia
6. Middle Eastern nation #12
7. Still probably not Russia
8. Ukraine?

Germany for hissing at Ivanka.
Hawaii
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Love this little nugget in there:



Party of fiscal responsibility!

That level of debt is not sustainable.
AND the debt would go towards the least beneficial use...
 
"My fellow Americans, today as Commander in Chief I have taken action to launch a preemptive strike against stairs. All stairs, everywhere. This insidious enemy will have no safe haven. Bigly."
 

Nordicus

Member
"My fellow Americans, today as Commander in Chief I have taken action to launch a preemptive strike against stairs. All stairs, everywhere. This insidious enemy will have no safe haven. Bigly."
This is nonsense, Trump would never do such a thing.

That would seriously hurt his new innovative Stairs Tax!

That's how he'll pay for The Wall and the corporate tax cuts!
 
Can he do that? That's like the definition of abuse of power.

I believe congress is the one with the power over deciding jurisdictions of federal courts.

Trump says stuff like this that doesn't make any sense because he doesn't even know what he can and cannot do as President.
 
(Since Trump is talking about it)

Seems like a fine thing to want to split up the 9th for administrative reasons, a stupid thing to want for ideological reasons. If I'm Kirsten Gillibrand, I can still load up a district court of Arizona, Wyoming, Nevada, and Idaho with super liberal judges. It's sort of like there's this conservative fantasy that if they split up the 9th, these courts will get magically more conservative, which isn't the case??
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Yeah, it doesn't really benefit Republicans as much as they pretend, and they've proposed this countless times. I believe there was a bill introduced just last year.
 
I'd think you'd end up with even more liberal judicial oversight of normally red states as well, since you'd just reduce the percentage of conservatives on each subsequent court.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Can he do that? That's like the definition of abuse of power.

Congress can if they nuke a filibuster, I believe.

My guess is he thinks he would get to create a new one and appoint all the judges himself.
 

kirblar

Member
(Since Trump is talking about it)

Seems like a fine thing to want to split up the 9th for administrative reasons, a stupid thing to want for ideological reasons.If I’m Kirsten Gillibrand, I can still load up a district court of Arizona, Wyoming, Nevada, and Idaho with super liberal judges. It’s sort of like there’s this conservative fantasy that if they split up the 9th, these courts will get magically more conservative, which isn’t the case??
It'd help if they actually nominated conservative jurists! (please let them keep not doing this!)
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
AARP is already attacking the AHCA, calling it "worse" than before. Good for them.
 

kirblar

Member
AARP is already attacking the AHCA, calling it "worse" than before. Good for them.
Insurance companies are attacking the AHCA.

AARP are attacking the AHCA.

We brought both on board the ACA. Having powerful allies invested in maintaining your successes is good!
 
This is going to shock you all, but there might be a conflict of interest in the White House

NYT: Bribe Cases, a Secret Jared Kushner Partner and Potential Conflicts

For much of the roughly $50 million in down payments, Mr. Kushner turned to an undisclosed overseas partner. Public records and shell companies shield the investor’s identity. But, it turns out, the money came from a member of Israel’s Steinmetz family, which built a fortune as one of the world’s leading diamond traders.

The Steinmetz partnership with Mr. Kushner underscores the mystery behind his family’s multibillion-dollar business and its potential for conflicts with his role as perhaps the second-most powerful man in the White House, behind only his father-in-law, President Trump.

Dealings with the Steinmetz family could create complications for Mr. Kushner. The Justice Department, led by Trump appointees, oversees the investigation into Beny Steinmetz. Even as Mr. Kushner’s company maintains extensive business ties to Israel, as a top White House adviser, he has been charged with leading American efforts to broker peace in the Middle East as part of his broad global portfolio.
 
I'm just mostly angry that it has worse formatting than the meeting schedules I had to make for my old job and yet was still considered worthy of distribution to the entire American press.
 
What Did Cedric Robinson Mean by Racial Capitalism?

Old article, but this is why I get so riled up by the economic justice crowd. It just feels like they are repeating Marx's mistakes over and over again, instead of reading up on newer, more updated ideas from people like Cedric Robinson.


For instance from the article, not from Cedric directly...


So what did Robinson mean by “racial capitalism”? Building on the work of another forgotten black radical intellectual, sociologist Oliver Cox, Robinson challenged the Marxist idea that capitalism was a revolutionary negation of feudalism. Instead capitalism emerged within the feudal order and flowered in the cultural soil of a Western civilization already thoroughly infused with racialism.

Capitalism and racism, in other words, did not break from the old order but rather evolved from it to produce a modern world system of “racial capitalism” dependent on slavery, violence, imperialism, and genocide. Capitalism was “racial” not because of some conspiracy to divide workers or justify slavery and dispossession, but because racialism had already permeated Western feudal society. The first European proletarians were racial subjects (Irish, Jews, Roma or Gypsies, Slavs, etc.) and they were victims of dispossession (enclosure), colonialism, and slavery within Europe.

Indeed, Robinson suggested that racialization within Europe was very much a colonial process involving invasion, settlement, expropriation, and racial hierarchy. Insisting that modern European nationalism was completely bound up with racialist myths, he reminds us that the ideology of Herrenvolk (governance by an ethnic majority) that drove German colonization of central Europe and “Slavic” territories “explained the inevitability and the naturalness of the domination of some Europeans by other Europeans.” To acknowledge this is not to diminish anti-black racism or African slavery, but rather to recognize that capitalism was not the great modernizer giving birth to the European proletariat as a universal subject, and the “tendency of European civilization through capitalism was thus not to homogenize but to differentiate—to exaggerate regional, subcultural, and dialectical differences into ‘racial’ ones.”

I wish folks would update their ideology.
 
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