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PoliGAF Jan 26 Debate/Florida Primary Topic
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speculawyer
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5. But his ideology is that the government can't do anything right . . . so why should they do this right?
4. It is going to become a state? Really? Newt will be dead & buried before that is ever even remotely close to being reality.
3. We could not set up a permanent moon base in less than 8 years.
2. He whines about the debt & deficit and then proposes this massive government spending program . . . in addition to having a war with Iran.
1. It it just complete horseshit that he vomited out to pander for Florida votes.
OpinionatedCyborg
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I am unironically supporting Newt Gingrich for his crazy moon plans. You know what's awesome about these plans? Gingrich has been obsessed with lunar colonies since the 80s (and probably earlier): 1986 http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=6580,5587792&dq=newt+gingrich+space&hl=en 1989:
This page bespeaks the ineffable brilliance of Newt Gingrich. Only he could inspire conversations about moon colonies and space mirrors.
Florida is about to become a bit less frothy. While not exiting the race, Santorum is leaving Florida after tonight's debate. This is not terribly surprising. He already had meager resources. And he failed to attract support subsequent Iowa. Florida is a large state. It's inimical to insurgent candidates. I expect him to withdraw after next week's primary. He simply lacks the resources to compete nationally.
Florida is about to become a bit less frothy. While not exiting the race, Santorum is leaving Florida after tonight's debate. This is not terribly surprising. He already had meager resources. And he failed to attract support subsequent Iowa. Florida is a large state. It's inimical to insurgent candidates. I expect him to withdraw after next week's primary. He simply lacks the resources to compete nationally.
This week has been decidedly more favorable for Romney. Now, he possess a slight advantage over Gingrich in Silver's model. Moreover, the latest survey conducted by InsiderAdvantage on Wednesday evinces a favorable trend. For what it's worth, he's now the decided favorite on Intrade to win FL. Of course, the race has proven capricious. So circumstances could change dramatically. Although, barring repeat of last week's debate, Mitt's position should improve uninterrupted.
The Librarian
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A "trick"? Holy shit, how degrading.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If you check out the front page of Drudge, it hasn't been a good couple days for Gingrich at all.
First, somebody dug up a lot of quotes and instances where Gingrich flat out slammed Reagan--the same guy he keeps inferring he was great friends with and admired deeply.
Second, an old acquaintance of both wrote an article detailing how Gingrich would constantly rail against Reagan in meetings.
Finally, Gingrich admitted that he flat out lied to John King when saying that he "offered" a ton of witnesses to ABC News to corroborated Newt's story about the open marriage and that ABC didn't want them.
I REALLY hope someone brings that up at the debate, otherwise nobody will probably ever bother to check out the truth.
First, somebody dug up a lot of quotes and instances where Gingrich flat out slammed Reagan--the same guy he keeps inferring he was great friends with and admired deeply.
Second, an old acquaintance of both wrote an article detailing how Gingrich would constantly rail against Reagan in meetings.
Finally, Gingrich admitted that he flat out lied to John King when saying that he "offered" a ton of witnesses to ABC News to corroborated Newt's story about the open marriage and that ABC didn't want them.
I REALLY hope someone brings that up at the debate, otherwise nobody will probably ever bother to check out the truth.
Pai Pai Master
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So like Texas, but in space?
while this is true, it should be noted that Drudge is working in tandem with one of Romney's closest advisers. so whenever you see something up there blasting newt you can be sure it came from Team Romney.
Ghost_Protocol
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The moon is under constant assault by meteoroids. There won't be a base there until we have a very advanced way of evading/shielding ourselves from them.
Byakuya769
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Is the audience going to be curtailed this time? If so, no way I watch this debate.
Invisible_Insane
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They should be. But it is CNN.
Me too.
If I was in charge of the space program I would probably come up with a different plan*, but heavy investment in space exploration and especially in manned missions is a very good thing in my mind.
And it's most assuredly better than the policies we're having right now.
Edit: his idea about colonizing the moon for America is just god-awful, and I am 100% against such crap.
* for starters, all astronauts must dress like Erin Gray from Buck Rogers.
hes going to announce that he is on the ticket for the FLA primary
I think I'd rather spend my evening hanging out in a sewer than watching him speak.
Republicans for the most part have been trying to side-step 9/11 since Bin Laden have been killed.
Dude's irrelevant.
el retorno
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Which is funny because Romney wasn't a fan of Regan either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Cw_QUrIuQ Which really shows neither of these guys are leaders. They are beholden to whatever the mood of their party is.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Now it's all about Iran. Iraq is so old news!
The big difference is that Gingrich is heavily leaning on that era to give himself cred with conservatives.
Ironically if Bush had got Bin Laden we would never hear the end of it from the GOP.
Biden is doing a "twitter chat"* at 1:10pm east time today.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/25/your-twitter-interview-vice-president-biden
*I have no idea what a twitter chat is.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/25/your-twitter-interview-vice-president-biden
*I have no idea what a twitter chat is.
That's not really surprising... some of the bump in polling from winning a primary is only temporary.
speculawyer
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C'mon. The audience is an essential part of the freak show. Booing a gay soldier. Calling for the death of a man with no insurance. Booing the Golden Rule. They are an important part of the circus.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Yup. I mentioned this in the community thread.
Byakuya769
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That's what I mean. If they aren't allowed to do those things, I have no interest in watching. I want the circus.
It's just partisan bullshit.
And it's the same reason why it's no longer an imperative to support the president in a time of war.
Invisible_Insane
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AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
ugghhh. I will still watch, but the circus is not entertaining, it is pandering.
Invisible_Insane
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My problem isn't even so much that it's pandering, which would happen anyway, but that it makes the whole affair even less informative than it would be otherwise.
It's amusing to me that we're having something of a parallel discussion in the community thread.
el retorno
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Wait what is the difference between the too? (community and this?)
Invisible_Insane
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This thread "expires" after the Florida Primary; the community thread is where the ongoing PoliGAF discussion happens. If you check out the previous page, you'll see some explanation from EviLore as to why we've been moved to this model.
This and the fact that not being in OT hinders visibility to new participants in the thread is making me reconsider the benifits if the community thread.
Newt victory confirmed.
Invisible_Insane
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I think we'll just have to be vigilant about linking back to the the community thread in all of the spin-off threads that end up being created. Definitely preferred the old model, though, no question about that.
Romney may have owned an illegal Swiss bank account under his wife's name for 7 years:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...mething-fishy-in-romneys-tax-code.php?ref=fpa
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...mething-fishy-in-romneys-tax-code.php?ref=fpa
mckmas8808
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speculawyer
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Interesting but you've got to have balls of steel to research this area. Well . . . probably not quite so controversial outside the USA as done here.
http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html
You can probably get a house next to Alec Baldwin.
a 5 day rolling average is a very different thing
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I have been saying as much for years. Of course, I do have conservative ideals, hopefully that doesn't mean what I think it means
After reading it - it seems more appropriate to say that extremism or fundamentalism (in any ideology, religion, or political belief) can be traced to lower IQ and/or prejudice.
The biggest reasons why it seems much more aligned with conservatism is simply because conservative fundamentalism has been on the rise every where.
Byakuya769
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Aw, HELL YEAH!!!
Princess Carl
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Sounds right to me.
Someone wanting to be a social conservative always strikes me as selfish. What are some reasons that someone would rather stagnate society than attempt to move society forward?
The_Darkest_Red
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All of this moon talk reminds me of an awesome project I did for school during my senior year. It was called the Lunar Regolith Mining Competition and we basically had to design a semi-autonomous robot that could scoop up regolith-like material (fake moon dust) and transport it. The idea was that a device like this could be used to transport regolith on the moon to a small processing facility where oxygen could be separated out from the rest of the material and used to sustain human life.
The project was done through NASA and took place at the Kennedy Space Center. The NASA guys we talked to were pretty serious about placing a colony on the moon by 2020 but that was right before they lost all their funding. Still, it was an awesome experience.
The best part was the banquet afterwards:
Dat Saturn V. This picture hardly does justice to the scale of that beast.
Sorry for going so off-topic but it isn't every day you get an opportunity to talk about this kind of stuff. I think it's incredibly interesting but at the same time I don't see how it can be justified in terms of funding.
Side note: the only award we won in the competition was "most destructive design" because our robot burst into flames at one point.
The project was done through NASA and took place at the Kennedy Space Center. The NASA guys we talked to were pretty serious about placing a colony on the moon by 2020 but that was right before they lost all their funding. Still, it was an awesome experience.
The best part was the banquet afterwards:
Dat Saturn V. This picture hardly does justice to the scale of that beast.
Sorry for going so off-topic but it isn't every day you get an opportunity to talk about this kind of stuff. I think it's incredibly interesting but at the same time I don't see how it can be justified in terms of funding.
Side note: the only award we won in the competition was "most destructive design" because our robot burst into flames at one point.
Princess Carl
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All of this moon talk reminds me of an awesome project I did for school during my senior year. It was called the Lunar Regolith Mining Competition and we basically had to design a semi-autonomous robot that could scoop up regolith-like material (fake moon dust) and transport it. The idea was that a device like this could be used to transport regolith on the moon to a small processing facility where oxygen could be separated out from the rest of the material and used to sustain human life.
The project was done through NASA and took place at the Kennedy Space Center. The NASA guys we talked to were pretty serious about placing a colony on the moon by 2020 but that was right before they lost all their funding. Still, it was an awesome experience.
The best part was the banquet afterwards:
Dat Saturn V. This picture hardly does justice to the scale of that beast.
Sorry for going so off-topic but it isn't every day you get an opportunity to talk about this kind of stuff. I think it's incredibly interesting but at the same time I don't see how it can be justified in terms of funding.
Side note: the only award we won in the competition was "most destructive design" because our robot burst into flames at one point.
Lol like a boss. sounds pretty amazing
platypotamus
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Worked on me. I went from 0% support of Gingrich to 1% support of him. Any increase in attention/money spent on space gets auto support.
If I magically became benevolent dictator of the US, the entire defense budget would be shifted to a space budget.
(Ok, only like 90% of the defense budget).
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