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PS3 shipments surpass 70 million, PSMove surpasses 15 million
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Several people have already said that both companies are using shipped numbers.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Got two of those bad boys along with the navi controller too.
Killzone 3/RE5/Time Crisis/Sport Champions/Sorcery and Tumble say hi!
I have 2 (+ a navigator controller I only used in Heavy Rain).
iamshadowlark
Banned
I have a move but haven't really bothered to use it.
Anyways great news for Sony. Surpassing MS is looking more and more like reality.
Anyways great news for Sony. Surpassing MS is looking more and more like reality.
Brad Grenz
Member
Yes. They have a remarkable knack for being wrong, unfortunately. The 360 figures come from Microsoft's most recent financial reports. Those detail shipments, they don't break down sell through.
Yeh, this seems like an opportune time to pump the numbers while Microsoft isn't. The figures will adjust and the 2mil+ 360 lead will return after the holiday 360 shipments are known.
Didn't Major Nelson accidentally let us know that Microsoft uses shipped numbers too?
Oh yeah he did:
http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/10/29/major-nelson-xbox-360-actually-sold-42-million-units/
PS3 is constantly outselling X360 worldwide, how else could they close 10 million units gap caused by 1 year delay?
And when PS3 hits China, it will receive incredible boost in sales.
I prophercise that PS3 leads worldwide by Q1 2013 if not sooner.
MS has sold over 15 million Kinects due to being dominant in certain markets with a weak assortment of games and limited hybrid support and around 70 million shipped consoles and you're questioning Sony selling around 15 million Move due to being dominant in certain markets with a weak assortment of games and average hybrid support and around 70 million shipped consoles?
That's right. A lot of Gaf forget that the PS3 is just about to be unleashed on China.
Exactly. And with no competition there (AFAIK, game consoles in China are illegal), it should make a killing.
Thank you. Found something:
So the question for the catch up is: Are in those XBOX 360 shipment figures christmas and black friday included like in those by Sony?
AdventureRacing
Member
Don't see what being a junior has to do with giving an opinion? If you disagree just disagree, bringing junior status into the equation looks pathetic imo.
The figures are not that surprising really. The advantage 360 has in US sales is more than made up by the advantage PS3 has in Japan, and rest of the planet barring a few places seems to favour the PS3.
English language web forums are not at all representative of the global videogames market.
English language web forums are not at all representative of the global videogames market.
They both are juniors, both of them, and only them, made that soon in China-statement. It was just laziness on my part, looking for a easy way to adress to both of them. Sorry if it came along the wrong way, it wasn´t meant to put into the equation.
Here you go beloved and admired senior (I stand in awe of your membership length)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-sony-ps3-china-idUSBRE8A60RH20121107
P.s. Your link refuses to open.
EDIT: finally opened, tell me, exactly, what part of this article says "PS3 is not coming to China"? It's not explicitly mentioned anywhere. This is nothing more than a glorified opinion piece.
LunaticHigh
Member
Exactly how is catching up false? it started almost a year behind, and shipped the same amount as the 360 did a month ago. I'm not exactly sure how anyone cane feasibly not consider that catching up.
It will pass the 360 world wide before the end of the gen.
Is it an accomplishment? No.
From #1 with absolutely no real competitor for two generations to fighting over second after colossal losses doesn't seem like an accomplishment to me, but they still did a lot to turn the PS3 around considering its launch.
AdventureRacing
Member
It was also mentioned by someone on the last page, though he's only been here 5 years.
And yes, bringing Junior into it always always looks stupid regardless of intentions. Even more so when one of them has been here longer than you.
Well played lol.
Paywall, mayhaps.
Your link doesn´t really confirm any kind of end for the ban on home game consoles. Yes, there are hints. But they can also easily apply to Wii/WiiU, X360 and those from China.
Regardless, thanks for your find/link.
Should someone really care for what you are saying, if you don´t care for intentions?
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
I think you're a Junior, so maybe I can't trust you. But I wanna trust you, I believe in you, but ehhh, I like you.
Have a cigar.
Unless you state your intentions in the use of the word Junior in the same post as you use the word Junior to address someone, you instantly appear to be trying to look superior because you have been granted member status. That on its own looks dickish. First impressions and all that.
No problem, I'm just glad we are friends again. All this confrontation business is not good for my soul.
It will pass 360 before the end of
The point is that majority of consoles are shipped in October-November, so the gap might be rather big for all we know despite the mere 5 week difference in reaching the milestone.
So first impressions leaded to jumping to conclusions, before asking. Understandable.
We never stopped. Somehow.
No conclusions were jumped to. It appeared dickish and that you were trying to act superior, I didn't say you were a dick.
Is it me, or is this thread starging to become a PS3 vs Xbox fight?
I think Sony made a good job getting out of the hole they dig for themselfs at the beginning of the generation. I think that if the Playstation brand wasn't so strong, especially in Europe it would have been a major failure.
Could they sell more consoles with a price cut? Sure they could. But they are still selling consoles at this moment, so no need for that.
I do. They sold millions of those things, because they work remarkably well.
I think Sony made a good job getting out of the hole they dig for themselfs at the beginning of the generation. I think that if the Playstation brand wasn't so strong, especially in Europe it would have been a major failure.
Could they sell more consoles with a price cut? Sure they could. But they are still selling consoles at this moment, so no need for that.
IonicSnake
Banned
They have been making money on each PS3 sold since 2010 though.
Also, I own two move controllers as well.
Psychotext
Member
Add me to the list of posters owning two move controllers. I've only used them once though, lol.
Stupid shiny things.
Stupid shiny things.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Good thing on turning around the PS3 business... and the console still has quite a lot of price cuts to go before its sales can be done and counted for... look at PS2 still selling more than decent numbers worldwide each year in 2012!
Also, add to the tally two Move controllers and a Navigation controller
. Really like them too in Heavy Rain for example.
Also, add to the tally two Move controllers and a Navigation controller
. Really like them too in Heavy Rain for example.snoopeasystreet
Member
Great numbers for the PS3 but isn't the way Sony count sales for the Move really nebulous? I think I remember hearing that they count every piece involved as a sale so if you own move and a navigation controller, that counts as multiple Moves sold. Not sure if it's or 3 cause I'm not sure if they include the eye with that.
Why is that the worst?if the ps3 has more longevity than the 360 it will reach there.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Wrong thread
I think last time they reported these numbers they qualified them as counting move and navigation controllers, but not pseyes. I might be wrong on that but I think it was the case. That kind of does make it nebulous enough though, sure.
360-70 mn. a month ago
wii-97.8 mn.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Yeah, I'd assume they leave out the eye. Even still, it's pretty hard to guess how many people out there own could potentially play a move game.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Sony should cancel PS4 if they only have such a tiny marketshare.
Good to see the Move doing OK, it certainly made our drinking Tiger Woods sessions more deadly, basically every shot your over par is a shot of booze you have to down, an eagle or better and you nominate a friend for a shot. It used to be fun just using the DS3 the Move makes it hilarious.
Metalmurphy
Member
I'll buy them for half the price!
maquiladora
Member
Almost everyone that has Move has 2 controllers, so its probably more like a 1:10 ratio.
You cant really say that at all since we don't have that type of data.
LOL, that may be understating things a bit. I don't think anyone but the most brainless of fanboys would call it any type of "victory". Listing the reasons why is like kicking a corpse. It may feel good initially, then you just walk away with regret.
If it wasn't for Sony's insurance business, they would be in Panasonic's market position right now, and we most assuredly would not be getting a PS4.
What a turnaround for the console division...
Kudos to them, in a sense, they've been much more agressive for the last 3 years (not that they had a choice, mind you). They'll probably end up selling another ten million before the PS4 arrives, and matching the first PS in two or three years. More reasons to believe that this particular sector will drain much of the company resources from now on -to our delight-.
Kudos to them, in a sense, they've been much more agressive for the last 3 years (not that they had a choice, mind you). They'll probably end up selling another ten million before the PS4 arrives, and matching the first PS in two or three years. More reasons to believe that this particular sector will drain much of the company resources from now on -to our delight-.