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PS3 USB Jigkick confirmed real
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Valkyr Junkie said:
The game launcher thing must be homebrew code unless sony distributes an ISO loader with the SDK. The PS3 SDK is widely leaked already and if this 'debug mode' allows anything compiled with it to run (which seems to be the case) then we'll have full homebrew.
Distribution could be a problem though, like the original Xbox I expect anything compiled with an official SDK to be illegal to distribute.
gundamkyoukai
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psjailbreak's so called "Backup Manager" (which is pretty much the only thing available to download on their website) is a debug package including a regular fself compiled with the (massively privately leaked) 1.92 sdk, The package itself is generated with Sony's official sdk tool (make_package_npdrm revision 1203 probably from that very same sdk) that makes it illegal to share because I am quite sure psjailbreak staff doesn't have the appropriate license to be using the official Playstation 3 SDK and its tools. The binary itself seems to use the usual sce apis when it comes to the gui or copying files over. It does run on a debug console and displays a "nicely" done GUI that lets you "backup" your game to the external or usb hdd and "run" them later on. Needless to say the backups wont "run" as their "backup manager" is just a regular fself running with game privileges and doesn't make use of any exploits that I can think of. Needless to say that if their so called usb dongle is real (which I doubt) it does extensive use of leaked sony's software and keys/certificates.
If this true any place that sell this thing is going get there asses sue by sony.
I also won't call it a hack but we need more info about it .
psjailbreak's so called "Backup Manager" (which is pretty much the only thing available to download on their website) is a debug package including a regular fself compiled with the (massively privately leaked) 1.92 sdk, The package itself is generated with Sony's official sdk tool (make_package_npdrm revision 1203 probably from that very same sdk) that makes it illegal to share because I am quite sure psjailbreak staff doesn't have the appropriate license to be using the official Playstation 3 SDK and its tools. The binary itself seems to use the usual sce apis when it comes to the gui or copying files over. It does run on a debug console and displays a "nicely" done GUI that lets you "backup" your game to the external or usb hdd and "run" them later on. Needless to say the backups wont "run" as their "backup manager" is just a regular fself running with game privileges and doesn't make use of any exploits that I can think of. Needless to say that if their so called usb dongle is real (which I doubt) it does extensive use of leaked sony's software and keys/certificates.
If this true any place that sell this thing is going get there asses sue by sony.
I also won't call it a hack but we need more info about it .
Ploid 3.0 said:
I doubt it I think it will evolve to much more, similar to JTAG 360's (e.g emulators, mkv support, ps store games and dlc piratable, homebrew, custom firmware and etc). It will start of as a simple devkit PS3 for only ISO, but I can bet it will be further hacked for much more stuff.
http://psx-scene.com/ is dead now.
SolidusDave
Member
N.A said:
I don't really see the homebrew code if this backup interface is indeed just the backup software of the debug PS3s.
even IF the codes of the dongle allow to run any software on the PS3, w/o actually cracking the PS3 this seems kinda worthless as these codes/firmware will obviously updated quickly and w/o a leak you can't get new ones and it doesn't allow you do chance the firmware etc?
edit:
mhh so it may not that easy to block it after all?
Praetorianer
Neo Member
DieH@rd said:
Sony's rage unleashed!
Kaz ordered every employee to go to psx-scene.com and place their coffee mug on F5.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh man the threat of litigation has totally stopped hackers every time in the past!gundamkyoukai said:
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Yoboman said:
Well there have been several "cracks" over the year, so it's impossible to say how big something is at the moment it's happening.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Not about stopping the hackers if file leaks on the net there's nothing you can do .
What i am wondering about is places like ozmodchip selling the ubs stick whats going to happen to them .
Stopping hackers online can't be done, a store selling sony sdks is whole other ball game.
Segata Sanshiro said:
There is a fairly important distinction. For example, with geohot's proposed stuff, the suggestion was it would be using all his own patches. Not distributing anything proprietary to Sony. Making it much easier to distribute without Sony being able to stop it. It would only become illegal later depending on how people used it...that's always been a nice 'out' for hackers and emulation etc.
But if this stuff is distributing things, selling things, that contains stuff owned by Sony, the mere dongle itself is piracy, whatever people end up doing with it. It makes it harder to legitimize, and makes it easier for Sony to stem distribution.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh, they might be able to stop ozmodchip, but good luck on stopping sales from places like Hong Kong.gundamkyoukai said:
The plot thickens...
We Want Homebrew
We Want Homebrew
HOMEBREW
JOJO ^H^H err HOMEBREW
EDIT:
Actually Sony could take the sting out of a lot of homebrew if they would allow a sandbox env to run in the background running python or something. All I want is a bittorrent client and a samba server running when games arn't.
We Want Homebrew
We Want Homebrew
HOMEBREW
JOJO ^H^H err HOMEBREW
EDIT:
Actually Sony could take the sting out of a lot of homebrew if they would allow a sandbox env to run in the background running python or something. All I want is a bittorrent client and a samba server running when games arn't.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Someone compile the PCSX2 source code on it quickly!Vagabundo said:
LOVE & TRUTH
Banned
Remember Lik-Sang?Segata Sanshiro said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I'm sure Sony will have just as much luck stemming distribution of this as America has had stemming distribution of cannabis.gofreak said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Remember the 300 other places you can buy stuff out of Hong Kong? It's not a winnable fight. They take down one of these guys, five more step up.LOVE & TRUTH said:
Paracelsus
Member
KAL2006 said:
Do you have an account tied to your DS? Can Nintendo stop you from booting your games if you pirate your DS?
Segata Sanshiro said:
I'm not saying they can stop it, fullstop. But they have a legal footing to challenge distributors in jurisdictions with reasonable copyright laws, whereas with 'purer' hacks they don't, and could only challenge the piracy of games themselves rather than (also) the hacks that enable playback of them.
Diablohead
Member
I miss themLOVE & TRUTH said:
and what made that problem so stupid is that sony bought some psp's from them originally only like half a year before sony sued them.InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
They could also just enable the PS2 Emulator on the firmware. That'd be sweet to see how far they got with it.-PXG- said:
Paracelsus said:
Of course it is obvious Sony can band peoples online accounts, that doesnt stop people from playing offline. Also games that require you to update to new firmware can easily bypass this, just look at the Wii. Like I have said before, this will end up like the JTAG 360 (free PSN games, dlc, ps3 isos, emulators, homebrew, media player features and etc, but no online play).
SolidusDave
Member
Hesemonni said:
I was not talking about having to input a disc but holding the PS3 buttons or whatever he is doing each boot.
A combination of suing every PSjailbreak distributor, new firmware updates that block the exploit, banning online pirates and future games not working on old compromised systems could stop most of the piracy. But since this exploit is out in there will be thousands of people pirating games. It's up to Sony to nip this exploit in the bud so there won't be hundreds of thousands or even millions of people pirating PS3 games.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I don't think it's going to make a meaningful difference in the outcome at all.gofreak said:
SolidSnakex
Member
DieH@rd said:
Sony's already shown that they're willing to do a lot to prevent piracy. At a minimum I expect every future Sony first party title to require a code verification to play online.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I was talking about flipping the switch with the usb key.-PXG- said:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm sure they will have something in place. Especially in time for GT5.DieH@rd said:
ymmv said:
-sueing every distributor will be impossible
-new firmware updates may be bypassed with hacks such as custom firmware, removing firmware update from game
-banning people (if they can do it like 360) will disable online gamers, but games will still be free for offline play
gundamkyoukai
Member
SolidSnakex said:
Online key for GT 5 coming up.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yea but online gaming is the thing now. It will be nice but we all have friends and probably some investment into PSN. Not worth the risk in my opinion.KAL2006 said:
DieH@rd said:
Interesting. So debug PS3 have always been able to backup full games to the HDD? Then why not release the feature so it will be the same as 360. Loading times would be improved and it makes more sense on the PS3 than the 360.
Also how the hell do they decrypt the executables? Maybe that is why the backup process takes so long, its not simply copy->paste but it has to decrypt the EBOOTS and whatnot.
And look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDaGne0u-4#t=17s Turnns it on, HDD lights up before the usb stick. -> usb stick lights up, tells the PS3 to boot in debug mode (how that fucking works is a mystery) and the the regular firmware loads. Is that how it could work?
And how have they made the backup program? Just code it and the use the leaked SDK to make it run??
SolidSnakex
Member
KAL2006 said:
I didn't say a code verification to play the game, i'm talking about a code that unlocks the online mode. And companies are already doing this.
captmcblack
Member
Will Sony really resort to ultra-draconian methods to keep their games from being pirated? Persistent PSN connections, CD-Keys and stuff required simultaneously? Saved games only on PSN and not in the console? I think if Sony goes too hard to try to lock things down, it's going to backfire on them.
Mind you, I am all for copy protections and stuff like that, but deliberately making it hard to simply use the game you paid for...I don't cosign that.
Mind you, I am all for copy protections and stuff like that, but deliberately making it hard to simply use the game you paid for...I don't cosign that.