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Rachel Dolezal Says She Was ‘Too Black’ for Her Black Husband

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Zoe

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What? Ethnicity is backed by genetics. The biological component is genes. You don't acquire your ethnicity after birth. Are you confusing nationality? You couldn't be more wrong.

In the US, an ethnicity can be comprised of many races. A person of Hispanic ethnicity may be white, black, Asian, etc. It's mostly a cultural/linguistic category.
 

Dali

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Translation: When I feel like it, I can jump between imitating Southern blacks, South Africans, Nigerians, Ethiopians, Egyptians, and north american hip hop, and ya'll can't say shit.
Maybe he just doesn't have any sort of connection with Africa (other than the obvious). I'm not fucking African and hate the identification of African American. Call me black if you have to call me something. Are descendants of pilgrims British Americans? Nah, they are just white people.

Edit: I didn't realize these were this crazy lady's words. Yeah she really needs to just go fuck herself and anyone on her side or entertaining her buffoonery can do the same.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
My favorite thing about this girl is how insanely white she looks...

Like you couldn't write a movie more perfectly. Red headed, milky skin, middle class generic white woman insists she's black.

This show definitely comes on after New Girl but before Late Night.
 

Aces&Eights

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I honestly don't know why but when i read this the first thing to hit my head was this

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Let's not throw Buffalo Bill into the same crazy camp as this woman.

OT: I'm from her home city, we have all looong stopped giving her any attention. She needs to just go away.
 
I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...

What? Ethnicity is backed by genetics. The biological component is genes. You don't acquire your ethnicity after birth. Are you confusing nationality? You couldn't be more wrong.

Ethnicity is an interpretation of certain bio-geographical traits. There are lot of cultural elements associated with ethnicity. I think it encapsulates social and biological elements.
 
She's not crazy. She's an asshole. This is the only shot she has at making a living. This is calculated and gross.

As much as I hate asshole white people having their behavior chalked to craziness, I legit think she might have a mental illness. Obviously I'm not a medical professional, but this would be the longest and deepest con I've ever seen from an individual, if that's the case
 

Dali

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I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...
You ever seen that episode of Seinfeld where Jerry was suspicious of the dentist's, Cranston's, reasons for converting to Judaism?

Tim: All right, it is cavity time. Ah, here we go. Which reminds me, did you here the one about the rabbi and the farmer's daughter? Huh?

Jerry: Hey.

Tim: Those aren't mahtzah balls.

Jerry: Tim, do you think you should be making jokes like that?

Tim: Why not? I'm Jewish, remember?

Jerry: I know, but...

Tim: Jerry, it's our sense of humor that sustained us as a people for 3000 years.

Jerry: 5000.

Tim: 5000, even better. Okay, Chrissie. Give me a schtickle of flouride.

Why would anyone take issue with someone trying to appropriate and profit (be it emotionally or monetarily) from other people's reality?
 

The Kree

Banned
As much as I hate asshole white people having their behavior chalked to craziness, I legit think she might have a mental illness. Obviously I'm not a medical professional, but this would be the longest and deepest con I've ever seen from an individual, if that's the case
She has no other choice but to lean into it. She couldn't even last as a hairdresser after the NAACP dropped her. It's either wear blackface on TV or do porn and start escorting. Any other job she might get goes to a robot.

She's done.
 

danm999

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I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...

I dunno seems pretty straightforward to me. She has been trying to profit from pretending to be part of a marginalised group whilst simultaneously lecturing that group on their failings. Oh and to top it all off her understanding of that group seems cartoonishly thin.
 
I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...

You fail to see why actions such as making up hate crimes, insulting a Hispanic student for not looking hispanic enough, and creating a suit to get money from an HBCU might earn her some ire huh?
Ijeoma Oluo said:
The insistence by so many in the white community that Rachel Dolezal should be able to claim Blackness shows how little white America has cared to know about black America. It shows how one-dimensional many think our culture is. Most importantly, it shows how entitled to our very identities many in white America feel that they are – when everybody knows that Whiteness is absolutely unobtainable for us. In America, race is defined primarily by one’s difference from Whiteness. Rachel Dolezal can get a tan and a perm and pass for black in a world that views Blackness simply as anything darker and nappier than white. Black women can’t go a shade or two lighter and become white, they would have to find a way to remove all of their Blackness in order to pass. In a world where anybody can be this one dimensional definition of black, only the privileged few can be white. Blackness disappears, Whiteness remains untouched.

If we had a world where race was fluid, where the gates to Whiteness as well as Blackness were truly open — that would truly mean the end of race and racism that many are using to justify Rachel Dolezal’s actions. But we don’t live in that world. And we don’t get there with the blackface of infatuated white people. We end racism by acknowledging and appreciating cultural and racial differences and the history that made them while dismantling the system of privilege that places such differences in a hierarchy. We don’t erase racism by erasing black people.
The Seattle Globalist

Do not get lulled into the idea that Dolezal is a harmless goof. She is a woman who trivializes minority struggles. She is a woman that trivializes the struggles of transgender individuals. She is a woman who takes and profits off of positions for minorities. She is a woman who preys off of the sympathy people feel toward her to continue to use and manipulate a system that wants to treat her as a celebrity for being in black face.
 

rhandino

Banned
I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...
Something about her cosplaying as a black women and then chastising black men for dating white women, talking down white people for searching her "black reaction" while looking 12 Years a Slave, telling a latina that she wasn't latina because she didn't' look like one, etc... may have rubbed people the wrong way.

I dunno, just a thought.
 

Dryk

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So sex is biological, gender is... biological, but gender expression is social? Man I'm confused on what gender specifically is now.
Our brains have an innate sense of the sex characteristics the bodies they inhabit are supposed to have. Outside of that core of gender identity, in a world where there's no societal pressure on gender expression, that may be all it is. Not to downplay the effect that those influences have in the present, because that reality is almost certainly unachievable. As it stands there's a lot of influence from societal expectations and pressures conflicting with people's sense of selves.
 
You fail to see why actions such as making up hate crimes, insulting a Hispanic student for not looking hispanic enough, and creating a suit to get money from an HBCU might earn her some ire huh?

The Seattle Globalist

Do not get lulled into the idea that Dolezal is a harmless goof. She is a woman who trivializes minority struggles. She is a woman that trivializes the struggles of transgender individuals. She is a woman who takes and profits off of positions for minorities. She is a woman who preys off of the sympathy people feel toward her to continue to use and manipulate a system that wants to treat her as a celebrity for being in black face.

Thank you. The people saying "she wasn't hurting anyone" clearly don't know the full details of this lady and what she was doing. Funnily enough the people saying this dip from the thread when posts like yours come up that prove them wrong.
 
Ethnicity is the actual social construct since it doesn't necessarily have a biological component. Its mainly composed of elements acquired after birth.

Can you always tell the difference between a German and a Scotsman just by looking at them?

Meanwhile if you are Asian or Black no matter than culture you grow up in you are still Asian or Black.


They always were considered white it's just they were discriminated based on ethnicity rather than race.

You can have discrimination based on other things than race.
Might wanna holler at Dominicans about that....
 
I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...



Ethnicity is an interpretation of certain bio-geographical traits. There are lot of cultural elements associated with ethnicity. I think it encapsulates social and biological elements.

Because she's actively harmed people in the past (lying about hate crimes, denying an hispanic woman a chance to speak on her oppression because she didn't look hispanic enough, chastising black men for dating white women)
 

Mael

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She needs to fucking disappear like she never existed.
Seriously I'm half of a mind wishing harm to this shit.
1 thing good for her though, apparently she's competent enough in styling the stuffs we have on our heads that people are paying her for it.
She should just style people hair and fucking drop this BS before anymore people are hurt, herself included.
 

Breads

Banned
I think this women is deluded, but I fail to see why her actions create such vitriol. Says as much about those going all in on here...



Ethnicity is an interpretation of certain bio-geographical traits. There are lot of cultural elements associated with ethnicity. I think it encapsulates social and biological elements.
Your ignorance says a lot about you, sure
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
As much as I hate asshole white people having their behavior chalked to craziness, I legit think she might have a mental illness. Obviously I'm not a medical professional, but this would be the longest and deepest con I've ever seen from an individual, if that's the case
... Allow me to introduce you to our current president
 
Blackness is suddenly important only when a white woman can't op into iut

Yep. It's the same with cultural appropriation threads. Too many people think culture and race are defensible as wardrobes for white people but how the actual people who have to live in minority skin feel about it means nothing.
 
This person is annoying as fuck making a mockery of the actual struggle African Americans go through. Stop giving this piece of shit attention
 

Mael

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I just want to say I don't want to see another thread about her. Please stop giving her attention.

this thread isn't giving her more attention, the only difference between whether this thread exists or not is that if we don't we can't talk about fucked up she is and how inacceptable her behavior is.
This is not generating any more attention or money toward her.
If anything people who don't know about her may be turned off buying her book.
 
this thread isn't giving her more attention, the only difference between whether this thread exists or not is that if we don't we can't talk about fucked up she is and how inacceptable her behavior is.
This is not generating any more attention or money toward her.
If anything people who don't know about her may be turned off buying her book.

Correct
 

Kyzer

Banned
You fail to see why actions such as making up hate crimes, insulting a Hispanic student for not looking hispanic enough, and creating a suit to get money from an HBCU might earn her some ire huh?

The Seattle Globalist

Do not get lulled into the idea that Dolezal is a harmless goof. She is a woman who trivializes minority struggles. She is a woman that trivializes the struggles of transgender individuals. She is a woman who takes and profits off of positions for minorities. She is a woman who preys off of the sympathy people feel toward her to continue to use and manipulate a system that wants to treat her as a celebrity for being in black face.

Basically needs to be stickied, takes some research to find out theres more than just lady who says she identifies as black.
 

Kyzer

Banned
She's coming up for a live interview with Smerconish on CNN.

Was just about to post this...fucking smerconish probably has no idea what hes doing. The headline was

"Rachel Dolezals Journey to Trans-Blackness"


Nooooooooooooooo


This guy reads his tweets live please everyone tweet @smerconish
 

Breads

Banned
I haven't listened to stern in about a year now but I feel like she is whack pack material.

She is a parody of herself. She is an advocate for no-one.

Truly an awful person.
 

Kyzer

Banned
I dont have a twitter anymore so I hope you guys are tweeting @smerconish and teaching him why displaying dolezal as trans black is so fucking stupid, maybe he will answer one of the tweets on air
 
These "benign" liberal white supremacists who embed themselves in Black people's business, then try to control and manipulate how we organise, plan and execute our affairs (because they're White and they know whats best for us) can be even more harmful than the bile spewing Trump supporting type.
You dont waste much time and energy with the latter, you just keep it moving, the former cons you into believing theyre an "ally" and you waste a considerable amount of time and energy contemplating the strategies and input of people who are only out for self gratification,ego stroking and self enrichment.
 

The Kree

Banned
Black people: White people have officially come for your blackness. If y'all start randomly decking people, I'll understand.
 
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