StickSoldier
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Wellll, tomorrow we don't have to speculate anymore, and we'll be able to find out all the details that need to be known if this game deserves a purchase. I hope its an alright port... lol
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Rayman 3D |OT| Come on, who's the king?
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Sanic
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Ngamer review. The summary doesn't really say anything about the quality of the port, for whatever reason.
StickSoldier
Member
This guy had a problem with Rayman 3DS before even playing it. I wonder why they didn't have someone else to review it who actually is open minded about playing Rayman again, or for the first time.
Official Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddextMvf9E8
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Official Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddextMvf9E8
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CorbieD said:@ShadeoftheChaos I'm really enjoying Rayman 3D. Still one of the great 3D platformers and this is a pretty good version of it.
StickSoldier
Member
Hmm, I wonder if the embargo is lifted once all of Europe is past Midnight or what?
Here's one more tweet regarding 3D.
Here's one more tweet regarding 3D.
Kill The Bat
Banned
I'm stuck between getting this or Ghost Recon as my second launch title.
I've never played Rayman 2 before, but I definitely enjoy that genre, so any way I could go wrong in getting this title?
I've never played Rayman 2 before, but I definitely enjoy that genre, so any way I could go wrong in getting this title?
Kill The Bat said:
Apparently the save file can be corrupted when it is first created, so you might wait a while till you start the game. If it works from the first time(or till you get a non corrupted save file) than you don't have to worry about this problem again. Another issue is that it's frame rate drops sometimes.
Kill The Bat
Banned
NEO0MJ said:
Is this a recurring issue? I saw one person had the issue, but haven't seen it elsewhere.
Sipowicz said:
Thanks for the input. I'd think it would be a no brainer, but I've never played Advance Wars or Fire Emblem before, so I'm apprehensive about grabbing Ghost Recon at this point.
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
Have there been any other reviews?
Kill The Bat said:
i'm not sure but games tm gave it a good review and they're notoriously hard to please. if you're apprehensive about it i'd wait for a few more reviews but julian gollop is really good developer and like i said the 3DS version of rayman 2 sounds like it's far from the best version
StickSoldier
Member
Kill The Bat said:
Only one person so far has had the save file mess up on them at the start, that I've seen. Like what has been said earlier, Ngamer reviewer didn't even really want to play Rayman, and he mentioned that one of his fellow workers who likes Rayman, was enjoying Rayman 3D. No other reviews as of yet, most should be coming out later tonight, or early tomorrow, but only one person has been overly negative on the port. Most people have been saying that its an actual decent port.
StickSoldier
Member
Another person who was excited for it has some positive impressions of it so far. Taken from the ONM forums. (Although he mentions no problems with framerate, most people have said its there but not that noticeable)
HNF1 said:
Kill The Bat
Banned
Sipowicz said:
Thanks for the link to the review.
StickSoldier said:
Alright, I figured this might be the case. I'll wait for some reviews to roll around then.
Pandoracell said:
Oh, absolutely. I'm using the Amazon credit toward (potentially) this, so I have a few days to decide anyway.
StickSoldier
Member
Lol oh man, here's another review like Ngamer, except this one actually makes the game sound worthy of a purchase. Here's a summary:
Didn't hurt my opinion at all, actually makes me want it more now. Seems like people who are going to score it low so far are people who don't like having to play it again, or because it doesn't have any new content.
Didn't hurt my opinion at all, actually makes me want it more now. Seems like people who are going to score it low so far are people who don't like having to play it again, or because it doesn't have any new content.
StickSoldier
Member
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
Eh I don't even pay attention to the score. The only negatives were basically it's an upgraded Rayman 2, but no new levels and shit, oh and dated graphics? Been hearing that 3D is good on it though.
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
Well, I think I'm going to buy this now, barring some landslide of terrible reviews (unlikely). Haven't played it since the Dreamcast version came out. All these sales and discounts on the launch titles are going to do me in.
Father_Brain
Banned
Definitely interested, but will probably wait until I can get it for $30 or less.
StickSoldier
Member
AniHawk said:
Dammnnnn, I never knew it came out on DSiware. The PS1 version has the best sound and graphics from what it looks like, but it's very hard so I cheated on it for infinite lives. Looks like on the DS version you can get a lot of hp compared to the PS1 version, so it is probably much easier. Either way, it's a cheap and fun game.
flyinpiranha
Member
So where are the reviews? I thought the embargo was lifted today?
I've played for a bit more than an hour yesterday.
Quick stuff :
- I can confirm there's ghosting in the cinematics.
- I can confirm framerate varies between 30 and 60. It never drops to "unplayable piece of shit" levels though.
- One music track kinda sucked at some point. Don't know if it was a one time bug or just a crappy encoding or something else (I was playing through the system's speakers, no headphones). I'll keep you posted.
- The 3D is subtle but has its moments. Sometimes you will really feel the depth, sometimes it will help you gather lums when hovering in the air with your hair, sometimes it will make the levels feel more real (especially indoors). It's nice overall.
Aside from that, the controls are awesome, the slide pad too, and from a game standpoint : it's rayman 2.
Quick stuff :
- I can confirm there's ghosting in the cinematics.
- I can confirm framerate varies between 30 and 60. It never drops to "unplayable piece of shit" levels though.
- One music track kinda sucked at some point. Don't know if it was a one time bug or just a crappy encoding or something else (I was playing through the system's speakers, no headphones). I'll keep you posted.
- The 3D is subtle but has its moments. Sometimes you will really feel the depth, sometimes it will help you gather lums when hovering in the air with your hair, sometimes it will make the levels feel more real (especially indoors). It's nice overall.
Aside from that, the controls are awesome, the slide pad too, and from a game standpoint : it's rayman 2.
Fernando Rocker
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Well... you guys convinced me. I'm definitely going to get this game, but in a few months...
Do you guys think the game will be $20 this year?
Do you guys think the game will be $20 this year?
flyinpiranha
Member
Fernando Rocker said:
Used sure. But I don't see the launch software dropping much until more competition (games) are on the market. Right now there is a choice of like 10-15 games. That isn't changing all that much in the next couple months but as time goes on the prices will inevitably drop.
I honestly don't see it this year though, they'll stretch it into the holiday IMO because more and more people will pick up a 3DS.
Still though, was expecting some reviews this morning.
StickSoldier
Member
3 new reviews, which pretty much sum up what other people are saying. It's Rayman 2 again, which is why it's getting a lower score. Seems like cameras are upgraded, but still aren't good compared to today's standards. I think I'm keeping it because this is the first time I will of ever played the game.
Pocket Gamer: http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/3DS/Rayman+3D/review.asp?c=28620
ONM: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/25045/rayman-3d-review/
Video Gamer: http://www.videogamer.com/3ds/rayman_3d/review.html
Edit: Here's another review
Gamesradar: http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/rayma...ew/a-201103241468499064/g-2011011915206516070
Pocket Gamer: http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/3DS/Rayman+3D/review.asp?c=28620
6/10
ONM: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/25045/rayman-3d-review/
60/100
Video Gamer: http://www.videogamer.com/3ds/rayman_3d/review.html
7/10
Edit: Here's another review
Gamesradar: http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/rayma...ew/a-201103241468499064/g-2011011915206516070
7/10
Hey.
Rayman 3D's pretty good. Yes, there's some framerate issues here and there but the 3D is nice (although entirely missing in the pre-rendered cutscenes) and it's Rayman - anyone familiar with the Dreamcast version will be happy, I'm sure.
I like it, anyway. Sure, it's old, but it's a favourite of mine.
Rayman 3D's pretty good. Yes, there's some framerate issues here and there but the 3D is nice (although entirely missing in the pre-rendered cutscenes) and it's Rayman - anyone familiar with the Dreamcast version will be happy, I'm sure.
I like it, anyway. Sure, it's old, but it's a favourite of mine.
friskykillface
Banned
Ramenman said:
thanks for the impressions
day 1!!!!!!
don't must ubisoft games drop in price asap? but these are launch games, so i'd say August it will be probably $20, that's not to say there will be sales on it.
StickSoldier
Member
Pandoracell said:
Yeah I'll keep it too, I was just wanting to make sure that the port was done alright. Seems like it has good control an shit so I'll be playing it.
Edit: Another review.
http://www.nowgamer.com/reviews/3ds/9721/rayman-3d-3ds
7.9/10
More reviewwsss:
http://electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/nintendods/nintendods-in-depth-reviews/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-reviews/7555-electronic-theatre-in-depth-review-rayman-3d
72%/100%
Looks like it will average around 6-7 on most sites, mainly because its not a new game but another Rayman 2 port
TheBaldEmperor
Member
At this point I'll probably pick this up with the credit from Amazon as I have never played Rayman 2 before.
alright, played it for an hour. let's get one thing out of the way: this game does NOT hover between 30 and 60 fps. i don't know who originally said that. it never even comes CLOSE to hitting 60. i was convinced it was locked at <30 until i went into first person in a narrow cave with no other models around, when suddenly it seemed to briefly jump to 60 fps. this was the ONLY instance of this happening and it went back to 30 fps as soon as i changed the camera back to normal. whenever rayman is on screen (which is 99% of the time) the game will be at 30 fps and below. the framerate drops quite frequently and not just in certain areas. so be prepared for that. it's not what i would call a stable framerate.
i bought the game because i'd never played the original, so i figured it'd be worth it even if it turned out to be just a subpar port... which it is in a lot of ways. it plays fine, the controls work great and i'm definitely having fun with it and it's pretty for the most part as well. but from the moment the title screen loads it's clear that this is just another ubisoft rush job. the hud, the loading screens, the cutscenes, the barebones use of the lower screen are just the first signs. then there's the strange audio glitches and the music that was obviously mixed too loud and sounds noticably distorted at times (turn down the music - not the sound fx - in the options menu right away!). some effects are still much quieter than others and unless you turn down the music almost all the way you can barely hear them, but rayman's steps and voice for example are always fairly loud. just a poorly balanced audio mix i guess. the music also tends to suddenly cut out from time to time. of course i have no way of knowing whether some of these audio glitches were present in the original, so take this whole thing with a grain of salt.
one more thing about the visuals: they are definitely darker overall than in the original. i just looked at a youtube video of the ps2 version which seems quite a big brighter. it has nothing to do with any sort of dimming effect from the 3d screen though, since a) the screen is just as bright with the 3d turned off and b) other 3ds games can be extremely bright, with colors that really pop (pilotwings resort etc.)
i'm probably making it sound worse than it is, as i'm really enjoying my time with the game. the problems i described are probably not that noticable to most people. it's NOT a broken game, far from it. but it does have a handful of flaws. just be aware of that if you intend to buy it. (it's definitely about a 1000 times better than the horrific ds port, which i bought too and couldn't stand to play for more than 20 minutes.)
i bought the game because i'd never played the original, so i figured it'd be worth it even if it turned out to be just a subpar port... which it is in a lot of ways. it plays fine, the controls work great and i'm definitely having fun with it and it's pretty for the most part as well. but from the moment the title screen loads it's clear that this is just another ubisoft rush job. the hud, the loading screens, the cutscenes, the barebones use of the lower screen are just the first signs. then there's the strange audio glitches and the music that was obviously mixed too loud and sounds noticably distorted at times (turn down the music - not the sound fx - in the options menu right away!). some effects are still much quieter than others and unless you turn down the music almost all the way you can barely hear them, but rayman's steps and voice for example are always fairly loud. just a poorly balanced audio mix i guess. the music also tends to suddenly cut out from time to time. of course i have no way of knowing whether some of these audio glitches were present in the original, so take this whole thing with a grain of salt.
one more thing about the visuals: they are definitely darker overall than in the original. i just looked at a youtube video of the ps2 version which seems quite a big brighter. it has nothing to do with any sort of dimming effect from the 3d screen though, since a) the screen is just as bright with the 3d turned off and b) other 3ds games can be extremely bright, with colors that really pop (pilotwings resort etc.)
i'm probably making it sound worse than it is, as i'm really enjoying my time with the game. the problems i described are probably not that noticable to most people. it's NOT a broken game, far from it. but it does have a handful of flaws. just be aware of that if you intend to buy it. (it's definitely about a 1000 times better than the horrific ds port, which i bought too and couldn't stand to play for more than 20 minutes.)
StickSoldier
Member
jarosh said:
Hahah yeah, I don't know what to do yet. I'm afraid to keep it, cuz it cost me $40, and I kind of want to buy that Radiant Historia game. Man I've never been so torn on keeping a game or not.
i should probably also mention that the 3d is VERY subtle in rayman. it's night and day compared to something like nintendogs, which has amazing depth. if you move the 3ds left and right you can really see how far apart the two different viewpoints in nintendogs are. rayman is very conservative in that regard. sometimes the 3d is barely noticeable. only when there's objects really close to the camera and you're looking down a long hallway it gets really apparent.
StickSoldier
Member
jarosh said:
So I mean, is this something you'd pay for $40 if you've never played it, but like adventure games? I mean I know you already paid for it, but for someone like me who hasn't opened it, what do you think? (Reason I ask is because I'm kinda broke when it comes to game funds, but I dont mind paying money for it if its good)
i've been playing other games, so i can't really elaborate much beyond my initial impressions. if you've never played it (like me) and like platformers i guess you can't go wrong. hard for me to judge your financial situation . obviously it's a pretty highly regarded game and this is a servicable port. i hardly ever pay full price for my games anyway, this is an exception for the launch of a new system. i usually wait for a price drop and then import. $40? i paid almost $70 for this!
. obviously it's a pretty highly regarded game and this is a servicable port. i hardly ever pay full price for my games anyway, this is an exception for the launch of a new system. i usually wait for a price drop and then import. $40? i paid almost $70 for this!StickSoldier
Member
Damnnn, thats like buying an old school n64 game. Eh fuck it, I'll keep the game. I like adventure games, so might as well play it.
jarosh said:
I pretty much agree with everything you said. It feels like a rush job (which it is, launch game etc), but I'm enjoying it a lot even considering the flaws.
I was the one who said "it hovers between 30 and 60 fps", it was just my (bad) way to say that the framerate is inconsistent and could clearly be better. I said 30 fps because I meant to say that the framerate never breaks the game, even when it drops, but I don't have fraps in my retinas like some people have.
Basically, if you like platform games, want to replay Rayman 2, or have never played it and are looking for a game to pick-up with your day-one 3DS that lasts more than 3 hours and isn't Street Fighter, I'd say go for it.