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[Fafalada]

I'm not being a cynic here, but I'll believe it when I see it in my own home and not in a controlled environment.

Show floor is the opposite of controlled environment when it comes to wireless signals.

Anyway I'm still waiting on the 60fps yay/nay. I want Resogun uncompromised.

The bigger the res the bigger the bitrate. I have my doubts they'll stream higher then the Vita native res.

It could be a quality slider - given that home setups will certainly cope better than remote ones, and not all home setups are equal either.

 

[immortal-joe]

Compression wont bother me one bit; you'd have to downscale the shit out of it for it to NOT look impressive on the Vita. No lag, even in a controlled environment, is a great start.

 

[RaikuHebi]

It's what I expected really. No way were they going to make themselves look bad next to the WiiU.

As someone who has tried RemotePlay on PS3 I'm sure this will be even more stunning.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

I'll take slight compression over lag any day. Is it not a similar situation with the Wii U tablet for remote play?

 

[goomba]

sounds impressive

 

[Korezo]

I'll take slight compression over lag any day. Is it not a similar situation with the Wii U tablet for remote play?

I don't know if its because of the lower resolution on the pad or if the game is compressed but games on the pad does loose a lot of quality on the pad, some games play with pixelation like a compressed youtube video.

 

[flipswitch]

Wow, I want expecting the them to say it was lag free, that was my number one concern. Doesn't remote play on ps3/vita feature a fair bit of lag?

 

[Graphics Horse]

Engadget video does show a frame or two of lag compared to the TV. I can't measure it but you can see when pausing. Probably no worse than lag from a bad TV, assuming that screen was low latency.

 

[DieH@rd]

ENGADGET's video of Remote Play on Vita!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVT5APO6Sk&hd=1

 

[Durante]

I'm a bit concerned about the compression. If the artifacts are obvious enough for mainstream gaming publications to notice they are probably enough to annoy me. I hope for a quality slider of some kind.

 

[Nephitamine]

ENGADGET's video of Remote Play on Vita!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVT5APO6Sk&hd=1

It looks great!

 

[Ty4on]

ENGADGET's video of Remote Play on Vita!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVT5APO6Sk&hd=1

Dunno if it's the dim lightning, but the Vita 2000 looks really nice there. Giving me a reason to get the PS4. I think the Vita is the best screen in my place

I'm a bit concerned about the compression. If the artifacts are obvious enough for mainstream gaming publications to notice they are probably enough to annoy me. I hope for a quality slider of some kind.

I'm pretty sure they'll try to make the quality as high as possible, but I've found compressed YouTube videos to look really nice on the Vita screen. What are the possible bottlenecks?

 

[Boss Man]

If they have really figured this out without lag, then I am seriously buying a Vita just for Remote Play.

 

[Lamptramp]

If they have really figured this out without lag, then I am seriously buying a Vita just for Remote Play.

Yep, like others I'm not too bothered about compression if its lag free. I'll have to keep my eyes open for good vita deals over christmas while theres still OLED ones about.

 

[2+2=5]

For those who don't know even the ps3 games that have vita(not psp) remote play like the ico collection already have zero lag(in local at least).

 

[BAW]

So this does not transmit the image directly to Vita like the Wii U does? You need to have a wifi network in your home?

 

[crinale]

ENGADGET's video of Remote Play on Vita!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVT5APO6Sk&hd=1

Damn it does look lag-free indeed.

 

[Omikaru]

The compression probably won't bother me. I'll be plugging Vita TV into an old 720p TV in another room, and I expect it'll look pretty fine at that resolution. I'm glad to hear that on a local network, at least, it'll be lag free.

 

[mrklaw]

I'm a bit concerned about the compression. If the artifacts are obvious enough for mainstream gaming publications to notice they are probably enough to annoy me. I hope for a quality slider of some kind.

only comment on compression so far was on vita TV though. so everything blown up to a large TV and requiring more bandwidth/stronger compression because it is 720p (confirmed by Yoshida)

So I would hope/expect compression to be less of an issue on a Vita, both due to the lower resolution meaning less harsh compression + smaller screen

 

[Earthpainting]

Slight compression is easy to overlook. As long as the performance is up to snuff, I'm in.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Give me two.

 

[sykoex]

I'm pretty happy with the look of the LCD, at least from the video.

 

[Sendou]

Slight compression doesn't bother me but I'm still conserned about how it will work with some games seeing that Vita is missing inputs DS4 has.

 

[dark10x]

I'm pretty happy with the look of the LCD, at least from the video.

That's not something you can judge from a video especially since you're likely viewing said video on an LCD.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I'm pretty happy with the look of the LCD, at least from the video.

It's probably the low light making it look better than it might otherwise be.

 

[TheRealTalker]

The vita Remote play underneath is way more Important to me since the Vita.Tv wont come west-side for a while.... I knew some form of compression was going to be there glad it's a slight one though

What really makes me happy is the no apparent lag

 

[thelastword]

Wow, no lag, that's pretty good. I'm sure the slight compression can be cleared off in the future, but as it stands, the convenience of playing your PS4 games anywhere sounds pretty impressive. ,

 

[Mr.Marston]

No problem with the compression if it means no lag.

 

[DieH@rd]

I'm pretty happy with the look of the LCD, at least from the video.

And OLED screen on original Vita will surely have even less display lag!

No problem with the compression if it means no lag.

I think the compression will be noticeable only duging VitaTV use on HDTV. Vita has a 5" screen and high DPI that will hide many smaller artifacts.

 

[Binabik15]

Lagless Deep Down fire tornados on Vita /tears of joy

 

[2+2=5]

I'm pretty happy with the look of the LCD, at least from the video.

Only because:
1)the tv is probably also a lcd
2)the lcd vita is alone, it there was an oled vita near it

 

[airmangataosenai]

Would it be crazy to expect Wii U quality? That's good enough for me. That is streaming at 720 correct?

1080P Youtube sounds about like what I've seen on the Wii U Gamepad. It's serviceable.

 

[Ushae]

No lag is great news. Compression? I hate compression. Fuck that for a 1080p console, no thanks.

 

[TheChaos0]

Looks good. New Vita also seems to look good but it might the lighting.

 

[DBT85]

The bigger the res the bigger the bitrate. I have my doubts they'll stream higher then the Vita native res.

I don't understand, people stream netflix at what resolution? Are you suggesting the issue is going to come from a network bandwidth issue, or PS4/Vita processing problems?

Engadget video does show a frame or two of lag compared to the TV. I can't measure it but you can see when pausing. Probably no worse than lag from a bad TV, assuming that screen was low latency.

I'll download the video and see if I can't equalise some graphics.

So this does not transmit the image directly to Vita like the Wii U does? You need to have a wifi network in your home?

You can transmit direct to the Vita or through your home network. You can do remote play with NO additional equipment other than a Vita and a PS4.

No lag is great news. Compression? I hate compression. Fuck that for a 1080p console, no thanks.

Compression is a necessity, its ont very well going to stream a 1080p uncompressed video now is it, noticeable artefacts are the issue.

Can anyone offer a reason why the compression quality couldn't change over time?

 

[Razgreez]

No lag is great news. Compression? I hate compression. Fuck that for a 1080p console, no thanks.

I'm sure this post is supposed to make sense somehow... But it just does not

 

[Mokubba]

No lag is great news. Compression? I hate compression. Fuck that for a 1080p console, no thanks.

What exactly are you saying?

 

[stargateheaven]

it almost looked like we were watch...ning at 1080p[/QUOTE] good enough for me!!

 

[Pie and Beans]

No lag is honestly surprising.

Might have to definitely grab FFXIV on PS4 when it comes around and if I'm still playing it for mining and crafting insanity. Hopefully a lot of other jRPGs and MMO's come to the system.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Only because:
1)the tv is probably also a lcd
2)the lcd vita is alone, it there was an oled vita near it

What's with the green tint?

 

[Drek]

Only because:
1)the tv is probably also a lcd
2)the lcd vita is alone, it there was an oled vita near it

Accept this is a shit comparison shot as the OLED is on max brightness and the LCD demo didn't allow for brightness adjustment (not to mention that it's picture snapped in a random shop and not some dark room and we're all likely viewing it through LCDs ourselves).

 

[DBT85]

This is an 8 frame clip from that 30fps Engadget video slowed down to 1 fps. You can see what the difference is between what appears on the monitor in the background, and what appears on the Vita screen.

How much lag there is between him pressing buttons and that happening is more difficult.

But that two sites said there was no lag (IE it felt like there was no lag) thats good.

 

[Serenity]

What's with the green tint?

Pretty sure in the thread where this pic came from the author mentioned in the comparison the brightness settings were low on the lcd vita and couldn't be changed and the brightness was set to max on the oled vita.

 

[2+2=5]

Accept this is a shit comparison shot as the OLED is on max brightness and the LCD demo didn't allow for brightness adjustment (not to mention that it's picture snapped in a random shop and not some dark room and we're all likely viewing it through LCDs ourselves).

Too bad the brightness is not the problem in this shot

 

[Plinko]

You can see the lag, but it's not that bad. Easily playable.

 

[Cha]

Woah! That endgadget video looked perfect. Would love to see how well remote play would hold up over an internet connection. It obviously won't be 1:1, but after seeing this video it may not be as crazy laggy as I thought it may be.

 

[Durante]

This is an 8 frame clip from that 30fps Engadget video slowed down to 1 fps. You can see what the difference is between what appears on the monitor in the background, and what appears on the Vita screen.

How much lag there is between him pressing buttons and that happening is more difficult.

But that two sites said there was no lag (IE it felt like there was no lag) thats good.

So, 2 30 FPS frames, that's 67 ms.

 

[Glorified G]

I have to see the compression myself. After the Wii U I'm pretty pessimistic

 

[Bailers]

Has anyone from Sony confirmed what wireless is in the PS4? I'm assuming -n, but sure would be nice to have -ac in there for this kind of gaming.

 

[Daingurse]

Cool, latency was my major concern. Got the Vita , just need a PS4 lol.