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Rep Keith Ellison of Minnesota will hopefully be the new DNC chairperson

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Lubricus

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I read up on him just now. I believe he will change things. A ray of hope to me.


Sen. Charles Schumer, set to be the next Senate minority leader, is reportedly backing Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) to serve as chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
Citing a source close to the New York Democrat, Politico reported Friday that Schumer spoke with Ellison on Thursday and “supports him for chair.”

“Without a Democratic White House, Schumer's view is the DNC is where grassroots organizing in sync with leg battles should be organized,” the source said.

The reported endorsement comes a day after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) also threw his support behind Ellison, a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the first Muslim elected to Congress.

Another progressive favorite, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), said in an interview with MSNBC that Ellison, who has expressed interest in the job, would make a “terrific” DNC leader.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/305540-schumer-supports-ellison-for-dnc-chair-report

Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison
 

ezekial45

Banned
Sounds good to me. We really need to show up in the midterms. I'm hoping he can harness the FUD that's happening with progressives and turn that into action.
 

Kevinroc

Member
I believe that the DNC needs new blood.

Ellison is a fine man. He saw the rise of Trump before many others did. That's someone we need.
 
After the complacent blue-dog idiots who previously occupied the chair, Keith Ellison as DNC chair would be absolutely welcome, and if both Bernie and Warren are basically endorsing him, he's probably the guy needed for the midterms and 2020 in order to get the DNC's ass in gear.
 

Nokagi

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Always liked him. He doesn't seem to have his head in the clouds or up his ass like a lot of the Democratic leadership. Love to see it happen.
 
If Howard fucking Dean is chosen over Keith the Democratic Party will give the message that they learned nothing from the Hillary disaster.
 

megalowho

Member
Schumer has a lot of sway. Good to see some of the old guard of the party embracing Ellison instead of digging their heels in with retread or status quo options.
 

Kevinroc

Member
What states are in play in 18?

Can the rust belt be reclaimed?

Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R
 

Valhelm

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This could be a great way to begin a leftist rebranding of the Democratic party. If any Republican dare call him a "jihadist sympathizer" because of his faith, remind them that he's the only US politician with an ISIS bounty on his head.
 
Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R

Jesus fucking Christ, so much at stake!

Watch Dems sit that one out :S
 
Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island - Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R


Too many states to defend : (

Yeah we're fucked until 2020 unless the floor really falls underneath the Republicans and we win the House.
 

Cyclical

Member
The establishment failed it's party. I hope we can begin to see Democrats following Bernie's lead and we can take the enthusiasm to the midterms. We can't let Trump have a 4 year term completely unchecked.
 

carlsojo

Member
The DNC needs someone who can go full firebrand and take the fucking fight to the Republicans. Enough of the if they go low we go high "strategy" (sorry Michelle, I still love you).
 
The good thing about the left is when they mess up, they learn and fix things faster than the right. It took the right 8 years, and really, they still haven't solved their issues in terms of why they screwed up. They just got lucky. I expect the DNC to have thing in order for 2018 and 2020 so we can have a good redrawing of the districts.
 
Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R
aka Democrats are going to suffer some losses in the mid-terms again because they have most to lose, their base refuses to vote in mid-terms for unknown reasons and Trump's supporters are still gonna be motivated.


Basically another 10 years of gerrymandering and it'll be 2020 for the Democrats next REAL chance at flipping the Senate or House.
 

theecakee

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Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R

Only 8 Republican seats that can be flipped, 21 Democrat seats to defend.

Well this sucks.
 

borghe

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If Sanders and Warren are behind him, then let's do it.

I can agree with this. Obama was an anomaly that the DNC was forced to acknowledge and support. Aside from Bams, they haven't shown much of a clue since the 90s.

Go for it.

Good we need another magical negro to inspire lazy liberals to get off their ass

liberals of all color and backgrounds, why yes... you're right.
 
aka Democrats are going to suffer some losses in the mid-terms again because they have most to lose, their base refuses to vote in mid-terms for unknown reasons and Trump's supporters are still gonna be motivated.


Basically another 10 years of gerrymandering and it'll be 2020 for the Democrats next REAL chance at flipping the Senate or House.

If Trump really pisses people off maybe we can see some changes at the state level.
 

Kemal86

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Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Maine: Angus King - I
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R

This is brutal. I see ~3 Republican seats that could be claimed, but with so many D seats to defend....ouch.
 

Ithil

Member
aka Democrats are going to suffer some losses in the mid-terms again because they have most to lose, their base refuses to vote in mid-terms for unknown reasons and Trump supporters are still gonna be motivated.


Basically another 10 years of gerrymandering and it'll be 2020 for the Democrats next REAL chance at flipping the Senate or House.

It's a little early to claim Trump supporters are still going to be motivated, given we have no idea what the state of the country will be in two years. The last midterms democrats did well in were 2006, under a Republican president.
 

blackflag

Member
This is brutal. I see ~3 Republican seats that could be claimed, but with so many D seats to defend....ouch.

Which 3?
I see Nevada possibly. I assume you are including AZ-Jeff Flake but as someone that lives there. That's not going to happen .
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
aka Democrats are going to suffer some losses in the mid-terms again because they have most to lose, their base refuses to vote in mid-terms for unknown reasons and Trump's supporters are still gonna be motivated.


Basically another 10 years of gerrymandering and it'll be 2020 for the Democrats next REAL chance at flipping the Senate or House.

no. 2018 senate seats are relatively safe either leaning or hard blue. likewise 2020 senate seats are largely safe (provided no MASSIVE GOP fuckup in Trump's first term)in either leaning or hard red states.

without a massive GOP failure in his first term, 2022 is the first chance to flip the senate.

2018 is almost certainly impossible to flip the house.. but if we can still erode the house... that would be something. pick up another 4-6 seats in 2018.. and 2020 no becomes <15 seats needed.

This is brutal. I see ~3 Republican seats that could be claimed, but with so many D seats to defend....ouch.

yes, they are mostly hard or leaning Dem seats. not really battleground seats.

Which ones are safe D, safe R and which ones have to be defended?

Florida
Indiana
Missouri
Ohio

are all leaning. Of those, Indiana is the only one with a single term senator.

NV and AZ are both R leaning, and both are single term senators.
 

bionic77

Member
My friends are also excited by this but I have lost too much faith in the American people to think this is a good idea.

You can't have people of color, women and especially not a Muslim (who are soon to be considered illegal) as part of the head of your party and expect to win people in the Rust Belt or the South.

Don't we have any fat, white liberals from the midwest or south with charisma?
 
Which ones are safe D, safe R and which ones have to be defended?

Safe
Mississippi: Roger Wicker - R
Nebraska: Deb Fischer - R
Tennessee: Bob Corker - R
Texas: Ted Cruz - R
Utah: Orrin Hatch - R
Wyoming: John Barrasso - R
Maine: Angus King - I
Vermont: Bernie Sanders - I
California: Diane Feinstein - D
Connecticut: Chris Murphy - D
Delaware: Tom Carper - D
Hawaii: Mazie Hirono - D
Maryland: Ben Cardin - D
Massachusetts: Elizabeth Warren - D
Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar - D
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich - D
New York: Kirsten Gillibrand - D
Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse - D
Washington: Maria Cantwell - D


Needs Defense:
Arizona: Jeff Flake - R
Nevada: Dean Heller - R
Florida: Bill Nelson - D
Indiana: Joe Donnelly - D
Missouri: Claire McCaskill - D
West Virginia: Joe Manchin - D
Montana: Jon Tester- D
New Jersey: Bob Menendez - D(not usually but Menendez is a disaster and a criminal)
Virginia: Tim Kaine - D
Ohio: Sherrod Brown - D
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey Jr. - D
North Dakota: Heidi Heikamp - D

My take. Donnelly, McCaskill, Manchin, Heitkamp, and Tester are especially in precarious positions. And we shouldn't take any of those "safe" states for granted either.

Edit: missed Heitkamp, damn we're boned
 

WedgeX

Banned
My friends are also excited by this but I have lost too much faith in the American people to think this is a good idea.

You can't have people of color, women and especially not a Muslim (who are soon to be considered illegal) as part of the head of your party and expect to win people in the Rust Belt or the South.

Don't we have any fat, white liberals from the midwest or south with charisma?

Maybe you could convince Stan Van Gundy to take over the DNC?
 

Lubricus

Member
My friends are also excited by this but I have lost too much faith in the American people to think this is a good idea.

You can't have people of color, women and especially not a Muslim (who are soon to be considered illegal) as part of the head of your party and expect to win people in the Rust Belt or the South.

Don't we have any fat, white liberals from the midwest or south with charisma?

Me but I'm not running.
 
I love Dean but the era of traditional campaigns are over,
we are beyond a point of no return, it is time to turn the page and embrace new blood, a new breed

Dems don't need to burn everything to the ground but they just need to have more Generation Xers to lead the Millennials
 
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