I think the underlying point that's being ignored here is that Sony's first party studios are currently struggling to produce full-scale content. Better (compared to XONE at least) versions of multiplatform games (many of which are still available on 360/PS3 as well) certainly haven't sold me on the platform just yet.
Now that I think about it they both are kind of on a even playing field when it comes to delaying shit.
Sony cancelled SSM New IP
Microsoft cancelled new Black Tusk IP
Halo 5 delayed a year
DriveClub delayed a year
Quantum Break delayed to early 15
The Order 1888 delayed to early 15
No new games for holiday 2014? Halo HD!
No new games for holiday 2014? TLOU HD!
Rime is 2015.+ Rime, Helldivers & The Witness on Sony's side.
Maybe Sony is quiet because they just don't have many games for 2014 after all, not because they had a master plan.
The positive side of this is that there has to be some good news coming tomorrow if they are feeding the delay to us.
If you've already spent it, what do your expectations matter if they surprise and deliver in the fall?It's a reality of the modern games industry. Leaks are common, and consistent enough that they're an accurate barometer of the future. Everything leaking out of Sony is that their internal development is in upheaval. Sony Santa Monica's thing may have been scheduled for Fall 2014 - but that's dead. Uncharted 4 was probably set for this Fall - no way that's happening now.
If Sony can surprise me with two more AAA games that are near-completion, yet they've just declined to mention up to this point - I'd be equal parts thrilled and annoyed. Thrilled because I want software, but annoyed because it shows a remarkable blindness to their customer base. People just spent $400 on their machine, and are left believing that it's devoid of worthwhile exclusive content for the immediate future?
+ Rime, Helldivers & The Witness on Sony's side.
Most of that entire list is coming to PS3 or Xbox 360. Gosh, upgrading to a new console this year makes little sense.
Do we even know that Arkhams definitely not delayed. Didn't the last trailer have soon on it.
Most of that entire list is coming to PS3 or Xbox 360. Gosh, upgrading to a new console this year makes little sense.
Going off the bombcast, 2014 is the year of 2015.
I couldn't justify buying $60 360/PS3 versions of games if I know I can a far superior version with a $400 upgrade with a X1 or PS4 console that will last for years and years.Most of that entire list is coming to PS3 or Xbox 360. Gosh, upgrading to a new console this year makes little sense.
Killzone
Knack
inFAMOUS
MLB
All within the first six months. You were saying?
just tell me Beast Souls is a thing for this year and life is good
I think the underlying point that's being ignored here is that Sony's first party studios are currently apparently struggling to produce full-scale exclusive content.
+ Rime, Helldivers & The Witness on Sony's side.
I will wait for E3.
MLB is cross platform though. PS4 exclusive is what's needed.
When was the last time (if ever) a game no one knew about prior to E3 was first revealed at E3, released later that fall, and was a AAA game?
The rumors about Arkham being delayed were miscommunication, it's still on track for October.Do we even know that Arkhams definitely not delayed. Didn't the last trailer have soon on it.
I think Sony should stop publishing games in the fall. They mostly can't compete so their games kinda just get stomped.
Sony doesn't exactly have the kind of cash to throw around that they used to on first party games. It's very possible they are scaling back on first party output and focusing more on third party games (with co-marketing type deals) and indie/DD titles that might come cheaper than developing AAA games in house or paying for outright exclusivity like say Microsoft with Titanfall. I'm a fan of Sony's first party stuff and their output was legendary in the PS2 and PS3 days, but a lot of those bigger budget games did not perform well sales-wise so it's not surprising that, especially in Sony's current financial state, they might try a new strategy.
This makes no sense. How are Evolution "unproven"?
And seriously, Sunset Overdrive is "proven" and an "established brand"?
Nope, Im the kind of consumer that expects the game complete at time. Moving time or quality assurance variable is equally bad.
I think the underlying point that's being ignored here is that Sony's first party studios are currently apparently struggling to produce full-scale exclusive content. Better (compared to XONE at least) versions of multiplatform games (many of which are still available on 360/PS3 as well) certainly haven't sold me on the platform just yet.
When was the last time (if ever) a game no one knew about prior to E3 was first revealed at E3, released later that fall, and was a AAA game?
Have you played Deadlight
If we all say that the video in the twitch stream was great maybe they change back to 2014.
That was basically my motivation for buying at launch. I'm going to spend the money anyway, maybe I save £50 if I wait two years, but I also get worse versions of every game I play for that two years, I'd rather just upgrade.I couldn't justify buying $60 360/PS3 versions of games if I know I can a far superior version with a $400 upgrade with a X1 or PS4 console that will last for years and years.
You know games take time correct?I'm expecting Sony to announce at least 2 first-party games available this fall. If not then idk wtf Sony's WWS studios are doing.
Yup. But kind of expected. This is Wii U's second full year. I'm glad I got one to entertain me for 2014 but it did get a head start.I find it incredible, ridiculous and hilarious that Nintendo has the best 1st party output for the rest of the year:
Hyrule Warriors
Bayonetta 2
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
X
That's console only, they'll put out stuff for the 3DS as well. Also they're probably going to release some unannounced game, just like they did with 3D World last year.
Isn't this supposed to be the case for halo and forza ?
Sup you're saying that Sony's first party isn't delivering full games if those games are on multiple Sony platforms? Whatthefuckamireading.jpgMLB is cross platform though. PS4 exclusive is what's needed.
It's comments like this that deserve a thread all their own.
I think the problem comes from the 1st party output for the PS3/PSV in 2013. Several major studios just released a game. That wasn't quite the case for the PS2 IIRC.
But now the order has to compete with the witcher In February, maybe they should have delayed it until march?I think Sony should stop publishing games in the fall. They mostly can't compete so their games kinda just get stomped.
I still don't believe that a higher resolution/frame rate are more compelling than exclusive software for the mass audience. For hardcore fans - sure. It's why the PC is booming - those people want the best. But the average consumer just wants games. If you tell them "Here are all these great new titles for the Fall - most of both consoles, but XBox has one or two more that you may like"... The ONE wins that conversation 9 times out of 10. Combined with price parity, XBox is in a position to win this holiday season and earn back a solid deal of the lead.
Yeah, Sony should move more titles to Spring and Summer and leave the Holidays to their biggest franchises.Exactly. TLOU dominated last summer because there was nothing else out.
I still don't believe that a higher resolution/frame rate are more compelling than exclusive software for the mass audience. For hardcore fans - sure. It's why the PC is booming - those people want the best. But the average consumer just wants games. If you tell them "Here are all these great new titles for the Fall - most of both consoles, but XBox has one or two more that you may like"... The ONE wins that conversation 9 times out of 10. Combined with price parity, XBox is in a position to win this holiday season and earn back a solid deal of the lead.