MisterShine
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Try learning to defend a point first. Learn the map, learn how to read the radar.. Also be sure to use a lot of different guns, see which you like best. It might be different from pve
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Second Destiny Beta Thread of 'SMiLE! The Beta's back up! Welcome Everyone!'
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Try learning to defend a point first. Learn the map, learn how to read the radar.. Also be sure to use a lot of different guns, see which you like best. It might be different from pve
What's up with the red pokeball?I dont even know what to do with all this glimmer, already bought ships and jet bikes for all my characters.
Don't even see anything else worth buying in the shops.
I hope so. Maybe then I don't have to spend time rushing to a turret. In every non-GAF Fireteam, I seem to be the only one trying to run to a turret while every one else shoots at the tank. The fools!
Icyflamez96
Member
They nerfed the wraith to crap in Reach? I wrecked with it.
I freaking hate this for PVE. Really hoping they change this to something less stupid.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Pretty much exhausted all the PvE stuff, for Warlock at least
Hit the Level cap (not the ability caps though)
Done all 5 Story missions
Done the Strike
Tried Explore level
Got all 5 Golden Chests
Bought everything worth buying
Guess I could carry on playing for the chance of finding better Level 8 gear, think I'm about done until the full game releases though
Aiming while gliding is hard
Sometimes I feel like my full automatic rifle jams after 3 or so shots. Not sure if it's a problem with the game, the console, or the controller.
Will there be any special beta events other than Iron Banner? Didn't seem very special to me last night
PVP races or sniper challenges would be pretty cool imo
Hit the Level cap (not the ability caps though)
Done all 5 Story missions
Done the Strike
Tried Explore level
Got all 5 Golden Chests
Bought everything worth buying
Guess I could carry on playing for the chance of finding better Level 8 gear, think I'm about done until the full game releases though
Aiming while gliding is hard
Sometimes I feel like my full automatic rifle jams after 3 or so shots. Not sure if it's a problem with the game, the console, or the controller.
Will there be any special beta events other than Iron Banner? Didn't seem very special to me last night
PVP races or sniper challenges would be pretty cool imo
Yep, same. Can't sign in at the moment. Which is annoying, since it's the first time I am able to play with a friend!
Mr_Antimatter
Member
yep. Everything else on psn appears to be working fine.
Yup, a bunch of us apparently. Not sure if it is planned or just typical. Glad it is during the demo at least as opposed to the release. Hopefully our suffering here will lead to smooth sailing in September. :-\
bryanee
Member
Not just me then.
I'm getting errors when accessing my friends list now though so it might be a PSN issue.
excaliburps
Press - MP1st.com
Hey, now! I think I'm in that small pool, then.
I'm not as dominant in Destiny's PvP as I am in Battlefield 4 or in Call of Duty, but I'm no scrub, either (I think). But yeah, most press suck at competitive gaming, I agree. I attribute this to not having enough time to play one game for long stretches -- especially if you review games, which I don't do anymore. Why review games when you can just play the games you want and with no deadline to beat, no?For the most part, I like the PvP. Bungie just needs to explain things a bit more on how weapons and levels don't matter (outside of The Iron Banner), balancing supers a bit and a few more niggles (yes, vehicles are OP).
I think one of my gripes in PvP is the slowness of the POV. I upped my look sensitivity to 4, but every time I have to do a quick 360, or even 180, it's slow as hell. Aside from that, I hope they add a mode where there are 9 players on each side. Oh, and maybe a color blind option for the game itself for UI, loots, etc.
Definitely having a blast with Destiny, though, and can see it being my go-to FPS game for the year.
Interficium
Banned
Yes
LookAtMeGo
Member
Going to nap for a bit before I get my ass kicked in Iron Banner again. Add me to your fireteam if you are short on mediocre players.
The thing with the PvP is that it's not balanced towards you playing by yourself, like most Bungie games. Tanks are balanced in that they often need teamwork to disable when those supers or grenades aren't working. So I would be in communication with my teammate in a turret at alpha, and then I lure the tank to him. Or while one of my teammates is being a decoy (using cover effectively), I can light the driver up from the flank.
A lot of people when they encounter these tanks try jumping around and gliding away. This is a horrible idea. The tank is really good at picking people out of the air. You need to be moving fast towards cover( which there is a lot of on the moon) and not jumping around in the middle of an open field( which there is also a lot of). So many people just try bunny jumping directly towards the interceptor, which never works. You have to either coordinate with your team, make sure you have your super or turret, or run the fuck away. That last point is key-if you have nothing to kill the tank with, run until you do. Get to the other side of the map. Don't throw yourself against it giving the team kills. Here's one tip for pikes-use those caves on the edges of the map to flank the tanks.
On the subject of weapons- I feel that people should understand what their weapon is good for. Auto rifle will tear you apart in close quarters, but the scout rifle will do just the same at range, if not more so. If you're a good aim, you can nail people in 3 scout rifle shots. In my experience, I have not found a good enough pulse rifle to use, and I have almost never been killed by them. You can do good with them, but I'd avoid them. Same with handcannon. Hopefully that will change come release, but I have been fine with my scout rifle at range and my shotgun for close quarters Control Point assaults. Vice versa when I use an autorifle(which I hardly ever do). Autorifle for close quarters and sniper for long range. Ultimately-know your range and don't out yourself in a position where you can be outclassed.
I feel like the PvP does indeed feel a bit unbalanced when playing by yourself with randoms because the games systems are so built around teamwork and intel. When you have a team of six calling out the locations of the enemies and tanks and turrets, the game becomes a bit simpler. Just knowing where the enemy is and what weapons they have equipped is awesome.
TLDR: Get as big of a group as you can and stop playing PvP by yourself. Oh, and if you're not really having fun, that's ok too. Don't force it. Luckily Destiny has some great PvE as well.
A lot of people when they encounter these tanks try jumping around and gliding away. This is a horrible idea. The tank is really good at picking people out of the air. You need to be moving fast towards cover( which there is a lot of on the moon) and not jumping around in the middle of an open field( which there is also a lot of). So many people just try bunny jumping directly towards the interceptor, which never works. You have to either coordinate with your team, make sure you have your super or turret, or run the fuck away. That last point is key-if you have nothing to kill the tank with, run until you do. Get to the other side of the map. Don't throw yourself against it giving the team kills. Here's one tip for pikes-use those caves on the edges of the map to flank the tanks.
On the subject of weapons- I feel that people should understand what their weapon is good for. Auto rifle will tear you apart in close quarters, but the scout rifle will do just the same at range, if not more so. If you're a good aim, you can nail people in 3 scout rifle shots. In my experience, I have not found a good enough pulse rifle to use, and I have almost never been killed by them. You can do good with them, but I'd avoid them. Same with handcannon. Hopefully that will change come release, but I have been fine with my scout rifle at range and my shotgun for close quarters Control Point assaults. Vice versa when I use an autorifle(which I hardly ever do). Autorifle for close quarters and sniper for long range. Ultimately-know your range and don't out yourself in a position where you can be outclassed.
I feel like the PvP does indeed feel a bit unbalanced when playing by yourself with randoms because the games systems are so built around teamwork and intel. When you have a team of six calling out the locations of the enemies and tanks and turrets, the game becomes a bit simpler. Just knowing where the enemy is and what weapons they have equipped is awesome.
TLDR: Get as big of a group as you can and stop playing PvP by yourself. Oh, and if you're not really having fun, that's ok too. Don't force it. Luckily Destiny has some great PvE as well.
Super Stardust
Member
What's a golden chest? Never seen onePretty much exhausted all the PvE stuff, for Warlock at least
Hit the Level cap (not the ability caps though)
Done all 5 Story missions
Done the Strike
Tried Explore level
Got all 5 Golden Chests
Bought everything worth buying
Guess I could carry on playing for the chance of finding better Level 8 gear, think I'm about done until the full game releases though
Aiming while gliding is hard
Sometimes I feel like my full automatic rifle jams after 3 or so shots. Not sure if it's a problem with the game, the console, or the controller.
Will there be any special beta events other than Iron Banner? Didn't seem very special to me last night
PVP races or sniper challenges would be pretty cool imo
Fuck man always getting stuck with a crappy team and half of them end up quitting after 2 minutes.
I wish Bungie brought back the ability to lose XP from quitting games or losing games, I understand not putting it in for losing games but for quitting there needs to be some consequences.
I wish Bungie brought back the ability to lose XP from quitting games or losing games, I understand not putting it in for losing games but for quitting there needs to be some consequences.
Just to add to the primary weapon balance discussion. As someone whose been stuck with only the hand cannon or the scout rifle(and generally prefers full auto weapons) I can honestly say the Hand cannon isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
Yes, the reload time and clip size are terrible. However, I can shoot one shot and melee someone with the hand cannon and kill them, in a very similar manner to the shot gun. That and I can three shot people normally, 2 shot head shot them otherwise. Also the hip fire accuracy makes it just about the only weapon that I spend more time hip firing than ADS. The key here is, if the enemies at medium range, not to tap the trigger like a mad man. Instead have a brief pause between firing to let the accuracy reset and you can kill the enemy pretty fast with decent aim. I honestly find I do better with the cannon than the scout rifle.
All this being said, I'm still frantically trying to find an auto-rifle, it definitely seems to be the best all around choice in PVP. My luck sucks, thus far.
Yes, the reload time and clip size are terrible. However, I can shoot one shot and melee someone with the hand cannon and kill them, in a very similar manner to the shot gun. That and I can three shot people normally, 2 shot head shot them otherwise. Also the hip fire accuracy makes it just about the only weapon that I spend more time hip firing than ADS. The key here is, if the enemies at medium range, not to tap the trigger like a mad man. Instead have a brief pause between firing to let the accuracy reset and you can kill the enemy pretty fast with decent aim. I honestly find I do better with the cannon than the scout rifle.
All this being said, I'm still frantically trying to find an auto-rifle, it definitely seems to be the best all around choice in PVP. My luck sucks, thus far.
It doesn't?!
*slams hat on to floor*
I spent hours training, looting and shit! It can't all be for nothing, damnit!
Robin64
Member
Mostly a bitter remark about how the PvP awards are seemingly just so random that even the worst players on a team were getting the epic quality spaceship.
There are 5, you can get them all in explore mode minus the one at the end of the strike
Google 'YouTube, 5 gold chests, destiny' for a 3 minute walk through
You get a new speeder at the end
As long as your team wins though, right?
GavinUK86
Member
I wondered the same about armor. I presume everyone is set at a base level right?
Just check the vendor when they restock or go free roam the level 8 area and try to find an engram drop for primary weapon
This happened today to me for the first time, I thought it was a glitch, but if not, damn. I had a sniper, and was doing the story mission where you activate the satellite while a bunch of enemies charge you. Get the shotgun out right? NOPE. No ammo, even though I had 15 shells when I last used it. Just annoying as shit.
Vire
Member
It only really matters if you win or not, rewards are split randomly across the winning team, doing well really has zero barring on getting fat loots. Which is unfortunate.
Nyteshade517
Member
EDIT: I was wrong...the app had this info all along
And that's what pisses me off more than anything in the gaming world nowadays. The enthusiast press should be relaying intelligent criticism backed by competent game analysis to game companies, but it's blatantly unqualified to do so and it *just* deals in superficial game impressions. If you're an "enthusiast", your skill, dedication, and understanding of games should at least be reasonably better than that of the average player.
I think Destiny's PvP is thoroughly mediocre, to be honest with you, but as I'm speaking I'm typing out a huge post which I've hinted at to some GAFfers for a while and describing why Destiny doesn't have the game mechanics to back a competitive shooter. I'm not just saying, "oh this is OP", or "it's boring", or whatnot. I want to really help people understand why a game is the way it is and not just be arbitrarily subjective.
On a more topical note. I got a RL friend who only plays RPGs to give the beta a shot and he ended up loving it. The PvE is fantastic in a this game. It's a cooperative spectacle that is a solid beginning for the foray into next-gen graphical territory. I sometimes grind quests just to look at this game for a while longer or play with the people that I know.
I'd spam this topic with screenshots, but you guys are so much better at that than me. I'm a terrible photographer.
Interficium
Banned
I'd like to add that so few fucking people understand to shoot the driver. The tank can only look in one direction at a time. As soon as that tank looks away from me I'm taking free scout or sniper head shots at him all day, it can't deal with a multivectored attack well at all.
Teamwork makes the dream work.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Still can't find a bloody green auto rifle
Thought I had one but she turned it into a hand cannon
Thought I had one but she turned it into a hand cannon
xenorevlis
Member
Just got in but two of my buddies already gave up when PSN errors were cropping up. They bailed to CoD.
Anyone want to group up (PS4)? My PSN ID is xenorevlis
Anyone want to group up (PS4)? My PSN ID is xenorevlis
Truth. The driver has literally no protection and dies just as well as if he were on the ground.
Haha, is it really a grind? I just kind of got mine naturally, and I think I even got one off Cryptarch at a specific time of the day.
Keep raiding and consider that you might be able to save up money for Cryptarch.
They're straight down the middle of the Tower, behind the bounty gatherer.
Nyteshade517
Member
This morning the Gunsmith had a Green 57 attack Scout Rifle and Hand Cannon so I bought them from there. Now I just need an Auto Rifle to finish off having 1 of each weapon type leveled up to 62 attack.
AmethystEnd
Member
But...it does do that? Tower Map in the app. Tap npc.
Interficium
Banned
The important thing to remember about the hand cannon is, in ideal world where you don't miss your crits, you'll win 100% of the time.
So if you're using hand cannons, you know, don't miss.
The Companion app does have this. Go to the Tower map then tap on any of the vendors. It'll show what their stock is at the moment and how long until it's refreshed.
MomoPufflet
Member
Shit better be working before Iron Banner. I'm about to go all Kim Kardashian Hollywood in this bitch.
squattingdonkey
Member
I wish I could log in to play.
Anyone else having issues?
Anyone else having issues?
TheOctodad
Member
And PSN is down...
Nyteshade517
Member
I did not know that...thank you
Also the Gunsmith has a Green Auto Rifle for sale..thank god
CrackaF3tt
Member
I was 43 last night lol now I'm 96.
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