Well looks like they don't care about competing with the Wii U. I predict a huge Nintendo pacman until the PS4 hits.
Sony has some very, very strong software coming out. Stuff like Beyond, God of War 4, and the Last of Us. I haven't seen anything out of Nintendo that remotely approaches those titles and Nintendo doesn't have the built in fanbase the PS3 has.
*Looks at Vita*
You don't announce a new console (variant) with a high price, if you intend to sell it for less a few weeks after launch.
Personally I think Sony are happy to concede to Nintendo, and retrieve as much profit from the PS3 before the PS4 arrives.
I still don't get it. People think sony made a mistake not cutting price? PS3 will sell insane amounts this holiday. It may or may not outsell wiiU, but thats ps4's job anyway. Sony may as well rake it in while they can.
It's not like things could really get much worse for them. Regardless of the price difference the Wii U is going to sell every system put on a shelf this holiday season.
Wii U White - ¥25,000
PS3 White - ¥24,980
Wii U Black - ¥30,000
PS3 Black 500 GB - ¥29,980
The prices shown at the top (for Wii U) is the price with tax, so I'm going to include the tax-less price.
Is this going to be a lose situation for Sony and a win situation for Nintendo? Is this near price parity not going to affect anything?
I think the Wii U may sell over the PS3 because for the same price, you can get a shiny new console.
you do realise that the most expensive ps3 you mentioned has a 500gb hard drive right??? You are comparing it to a new console witb 32gb hard drive right??
you do realise that the most expensive ps3 you mentioned has a 500gb hard drive right??? You are comparing it to a new console witb 32gb hard drive right??
But the Wii U comes with a limited range Vita.
you do realise that the most expensive ps3 you mentioned has a 500gb hard drive right??? You are comparing it to a new console witb 32gb hard drive right??
I think that with the Direct they revealed some potential big strategy for Japan in particula, but I also think that its ability to replicate Wii's success is yet to be proven, honestly.
plus the high-end wii u comes with a stand. kids love stands.
Wrong, it comes with 4 stands!
1 Charging stand.
1 Play stand.
1 Wii U stand (which is made of 2 stands)
Here's a better question: we're at year what like 5 or 6 into this gen and the ps3 is STILL above $250(!) so what kind of price are we looking at for a ps4 in a year's time? Surely they wouldn't try $599 again, right?
Of course not.
They will go out with a bang. PS4 799$ baby.
I think the Wii U may sell over the PS3 because for the same price, you can get a shiny new console.
Plus IMO if people were interested in the PS3 third party offers they will probably already have a Ps3 by now.I'm not sure that Sony will cut the price of the ps3 this year. I think the majority of people that are going to buy the Wii U are the same that already have a Wii. If you have noticed every major games on Wii U is a sequel/port of a game that is already on the Wii. People that already have only a Ps3 or don't have a Wii I'm not sure that they will be interested in buying the Wii U in the first year.
Here's a better question: we're at year what like 5 or 6 into this gen and the ps3 is STILL above $250(!) so what kind of price are we looking at for a ps4 in a year's time? Surely they wouldn't try $599 again, right?
I honestly have no clue what this thread is about anymore.
3DS is a completely different ball park than the Vita.
Nobody is going to buy a PS3 with the Wii U the same price with an NSMB and Monster Hunter launch.
It's going to be a bloodbath. Vita part deux.
They are really going to be allowing Nintendo to gain a stranglehold in both the home and portable markets.
And PS4 will be launched and decimate WiiU in sales. par for the course for a new console...
And PS4 will be launched and decimate WiiU in sales. par for the course for a new console...
I honestly have no clue what this thread is about anymore.
And PS4 will be launched and decimate WiiU in sales. par for the course for a new console...
Yeah, dumb move by Sony. They should have totally dropped the price and sell it at loss to compete with a new console that's going to sell better regardless.
You guys are funny sometimes.
and.............???
edit: wasn't that 5 yrs old game console? is that supposed to fight with a brand new one?
You realize the price difference between a 500 GB Hard Drive and 32 GB Flash Drive is about $40 right?you do realise that the most expensive ps3 you mentioned has a 500gb hard drive right??? You are comparing it to a new console witb 32gb hard drive right??
Yeah, dumb move by Sony. They should have totally dropped the price and sell it at loss to compete with a new console that's going to sell better regardless.
You guys are funny sometimes.
And PS4 will be launched and decimate WiiU in sales. par for the course for a new console...
opening the system up to a pricepoint that's more widely accepted (since the $250-$300 thing is worldwide) gives you access to an audience that you didn't have before. it's partly why the ps2 sold tens of millions of consoles below the $200 mark.
it's been long-since time that these devices should have been more of a budget price by now.
Well, your points are sound, but you are kind of glossing over the main problem. Sony can't drop the price of PS3 a great deal, as long as it contains an HDD. They can't do much with HDD prices, and that's why there's a flash memory version in Europe, I think. Next gen, they may drop the HDD and go with flash memory too. It depends on flash memory prices, I suppose. Either way, while there is an HDD in their hardware, that's basically an extra $99 that will sit on top of whatever their hardware price would have been otherwise. I think they've done pretty well to get it down to $250, actually.The elephant in the room is that it's inadvisable for Sony to rapidly drop the PS3 price, and unlikely-to-unthinkable to have any PS3 model within range of the PS4 at launch. Shit, a $50 gap between PS3+Move and PS4 is extremely unlikely for market segmentation purposes. $300 PS3 until at least Spring 2013 means either 2014 PS4 or $400+ base PS4, and the lack of first-party software on show anywhere points to option B.
Edit: It's the 500GB premium pack that really kills it. That shouldn't exist, the budget/premium divide really needs to be $200 Flash and $250 HDD with 250->320 presented as the premium "uptick". That's cautious, conservative wound-licking without torpedoing Vita's price point, that doesn't automatically stick a fork in the PS4.
Well, your points are sound, but you are kind of glossing over the main problem. Sony can't drop the price of PS3 a great deal, as long as it contains an HDD. They can't do much with HDD prices, and that's why there's a flash memory version in Europe, I think. Next gen, they may drop the HDD and go with flash memory too. It depends on flash memory prices, I suppose. Either way, while there is an HDD in their hardware, that's basically an extra $99 that will sit on top of whatever their hardware price would have been otherwise. I think they've done pretty well to get it down to $250, actually.
Sony probably is trying to not make the PS3 look inferior to the WiiU. They expect that games will look pretty close to PS3 given how many are ports in the first few months and are probably considering that Blu-Ray might also work for them.
Don't know if it will actually work but that's their reasoning I would think.
Edit: Also larger hard drive, people like larger numbers.
And the smart thing is to do it when you can't sell it at profit and when a brand new console console is releasing?
Also, I think you'll find the more widely accepted price point has changed since last gen. PS3 is gonna sell tons when it reaches near 100-150, it'll barely change at 250-300
the point of making a second revision was to get costs down so that they'd make more money off the thing. and instead of passing savings on to the customer, they shoved a few hundred more gigabytes of memory space in there and called it a day