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[Setanta]

Cautiously optimistic here.


SEGA Superstar Tennis should give you an idea...

I haven't seen the scans but if it does indeed look like the stuff we've seen before they are probably screens from the 360/PS3 build then - it's ONM after all.

No, they are screens from the Wii build and new screens too. Plus the magazine does say "Hands on" with the game and do give hands on details with the Wii version,as well as having an Interview with the Lead Designer of the Wii version.

 

[JonathanEx]

Sega could easily provide bullshots to ONM. ONM were more than happy to print the Red Steel ones with an exclusive hands-on. Different company, but it could happen again.

 

[nightside]

Sega could easily provide bullshots to ONM. ONM were more than happy to print the Red Steel ones with an exclusive hands-on. Different company, but it could happen again.

wasn't that game informer?

 

[VAIL]

Here's what I said:

Dammit. I want to see these screens. Can someone PM me a link or something?


Those are two different thoughts. The first is me stating my desire to see the screens. The second is me asking if someone would PM me a link. I often times like to receive random links from strangers on message boards. The two sentences are completely unrelated. Completely.

Pardon me, but that was clever.

Spoiler

lulz

 

[TreIII]

wasn't that game informer?

That's what I thought as well.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

Could I get a pm of these screens also?

 

[Flakster99]

Come on Sega, prove me wrong.

 

[Neodiablo22]

Tiny spark of light has appeared

Don't trust the light

 

[Monkeylord]

I have this issue and I'm dubious of the screenshots. They look practically identical to the ones shown so far, and as far as I'm concerned almost all of them may as well be the same. The HUD is the same size as the 360/PS3 build - which would mean a blurry mess in the corner of the screen on the Wii - yet in these screans they're crystal clear.

The models look slightly lower poly and some background elements are on par with GC/Wii level (like flat alpha mapped textures for foliage, etc).





... excuse me, I must go sign for this truckload of salt that just turned up.

 

[frankie_baby]

think i might actually buy onm on friday

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

think i might actually buy onm on friday

Don't do this. This is how they get you.

 

[frankie_baby]

Don't do this. This is how they get you.

but i wanna see the screens

 

[Jirotrom]

if the wii and 360/ps3 versions look similar then someone is being lazy.

not true since the ps3/360 ones look fantastic.

 

[Y2Kev]

ONM WORLD EXCLUSIVE ON SONIC WII

--It's coming to Wii
--It stars Sonic
--"Prominent Sonic lore" will be "featured"
--The game will be a mix of game styles
--Those styles will be included in the game
--The game will cost $49.99 (but they don't guarantee it)
--The cover will have sonic on the box

 

[frankie_baby]

ONM WORLD EXCLUSIVE ON SONIC WII

--It's coming to Wii
--It stars Sonic
--"Prominent Sonic lore" will be "featured"
--The game will be a mix of game styles
--Those styles will be included in the game
--The game will cost $49.99 (but they don't guarantee it)
--The cover will have sonic on the box

why the hell would ONM say an american price?

 

[jarrod]

SEGA Superstar Tennis should give you an idea...

Actually, that game started out as a Wii conversion of VT3.

Sumo did 3 builds for it across platforms, and Wii was the lead for it's build (which was then downported to PS2). The Wii version's tracking best sales wise too so far.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

I WANNA SEE THE SCREEN!! >:O

 

[dark10x]

I have this issue and I'm dubious of the screenshots. They look practically identical to the ones shown so far, and as far as I'm concerned they're the same. The HUD is the same size as the 360/PS3 build - which would mean a blurry mess in the corner of the screen on the Wii - yet in these screans they're crystal clear.

That's the tip off right there. The Wii version is going to feature a larger HUD. If you compress a 720p image of the game down to 640x480 (actual Wii resolution) then stretch it to 853x480 you'll see that the HUD becomes somewhat garbled.

If they are indeed displaying pictures with the same HUD as the original shots we can take that to mean that those shots are not taken from the Wii version.

 

[shinsnake]

That's the tip off right there. The Wii version is going to feature a larger HUD. If you compress a 720p image of the game down to 640x480 (actual Wii resolution) then stretch it to 853x480 you'll see that the HUD becomes somewhat garbled.

If they are indeed displaying pictures with the same HUD as the original shots we can take that to mean that those shots are not taken from the Wii version.

Or, it could mean that the Wii HUD and HD HUD's are scaled to match their resolutions. You know, you can have a 480 picture and a 720 picture and a portion of the screen can actually be the same proportion to the rest of the screen.

That said, I'll believe it when I'm playing it.

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

assuming the screenshots I'm watching right now are from the Wii version (they come from a SU Wii page) must admit it looks pretty damn good and yes, similar to the 360/PS3 version

 

[Gagaman]

Why wouldn't they make the Wii version the main build? They've had far better sales with their Wii line up so far than their 360/PS3 games, with them having to close down a whole studio based on the poor sales of their first game Sega Rally Revo, while I can't walk into a games shop without seeing Sega games flooding the Wii best sellers chart.

I've seen one of the ODM page scans, and the screens shown there are defiantly the same as the leaked ones, so I'd be surprised if they were the Wii shots. I can't see the Wii version looking all too different either way, but those screens were clearly HD with very fancy lighting.

 

[wazoo]

not true since the ps3/360 ones look fantastic.

So, the Wii look fantastic in HD ??

 

[Sciz]

Yoshihisa Hashimoto. Huh. This makes me wonder just what Ogawa is up to. Clearly the dust hasn't settled from Naka's departure yet.

And do I ever want to see werehog gameplay footage now. "Slower and more agile" brings to mind either Heroes-style combat or methodical, classic platforming, and I'm pretty sure it won't be either of those.

 

[Threi]

assuming the screenshots I'm watching right now are from the Wii version (they come from a SU Wii page) must admit it looks pretty damn good and yes, similar to the 360/PS3 version

hay guy

 

[rezuth]

I dont want to get my hopes up high but the Wii can easily do Sonic Unleashed if they poly-downgrade the enviorements a bit+fake lightning. The screenshots could just be target renders.

 

[jdforge]

I'm reading ONM right now. The Sonic model has similar if not exactly the same rim lighting effects seen in Super Mario Galaxy. Eveything looks pretty clean, colourful and vibrant. Actually quite impressive.

 

[Teknoman]

So, the Wii look fantastic in HD ??

In progressive scan sure.

 

[dark10x]

In progressive scan sure.

If only the image quality were as sharp as the Sega Dreamcast (released in 1998).

 

[JonathanEx]

wasn't that game informer?

GI was US exclusive, ONM was UK.

 

[frankie_baby]

I'm reading ONM right now. The Sonic model has similar if not exactly the same rim lighting effects seen in Super Mario Galaxy. Eveything looks pretty clean, colourful and vibrant. Actually quite impressive.

The article and corresponding screens are so good, I've decided to frame them.

are you a subscriber or is it available in stores yet?

 

[Setanta]

are you a subscriber or is it available in stores yet?

Subscribers only. In stores Friday.

 

[Monkeylord]

are you a subscriber or is it available in stores yet?

Subscribers get it today. It's out officially on Fri.

 

[Gully State]

Can someone PM me the screens please?

 

[frankie_baby]

Subscribers get it today. It's out officially on Fri.

might have a look in tesco anyway on my way to work in a bit

 

[Haunted]

Man, some mod is going to do a clean sweep if anymore people openly ask for scans.

 

[Sciz]

I just had a thought. According to another summary of the article that's floating around, Unleashed was originally being planned as Sonic Adventure 3. Also, Hashimoto's prior credits largely involve programming the chao.

I probably shouldn't get my hopes up.

 

[grandjedi6]

Why wouldn't they make the Wii version the main build? They've had far better sales with their Wii line up so far than their 360/PS3 games, with them having to close down a whole studio based on the poor sales of their first game Sega Rally Revo, while I can't walk into a games shop without seeing Sega games flooding the Wii best sellers chart.

I've seen one of the ODM page scans, and the screens shown there are defiantly the same as the leaked ones, so I'd be surprised if they were the Wii shots. I can't see the Wii version looking all too different either way, but those screens were clearly HD with very fancy lighting.

Because it is easier to produce the title on the PS3 and 360, and then downgrade it for a PS2/Wii port. Instead of having to upgrade it to 360/PS3 or ship it with substandard graphics

 

[sevenchaos]

I just had a thought. According to another summary of the article that's floating around, Unleashed was originally being planned as Sonic Adventure 3. Also, Hashimoto's prior credits largely involve programming the chao.

I probably shouldn't get my hopes up.

Well seeing as how bad SA2 was I'd be trying to expect another piece of shit. The Sega fanboy inside of me is making it really hard.

 

[shinsnake]

Because it is easier to produce the title on the PS3 and 360, and then downgrade it for a PS2/Wii port. Instead of having to upgrade it to 360/PS3 or ship it with substandard graphics

No, apparently that's impossible. Ask any Wii third party developer except for Sega. It's always PS2 to Wii and PS3/360 separate. Hell, some people even defend that and blame Nintendo for gimped versions that could be done on the Wii.

 

[wazoo]

I fear that it may come as a new development process for many japanese firms. Wii first, then upping the resolution for the HD console, considering the sales of Wii in Japan and their general lack of tech capabilities today.

 

[Xavien]

I'm Interested...

Spoiler

I Know, i know but i can't help it, once a sonic fanboy, always a sonic fanboy

 

[krypt0nian]

In progressive scan sure.

Under no circumstance does SD content look "amazing" in HD. Great scaler or no scaler.

The best you can hope for is serviceable.

 

[jarrod]

Because it is easier to produce the title on the PS3 and 360, and then downgrade it for a PS2/Wii port. Instead of having to upgrade it to 360/PS3 or ship it with substandard graphics

Actually it's definitely easier to do the reverse, and cater to the lowest common denominator (which would be PS2 in this case).

Honestly though, when dealing with machines with such a large disparity in performance, dual builds really make the most sense (so 360/PS3 & Wii/PS2), with an overall game design that accomodates them all. Just be glad it's not Renderware again.

 

[JDSN]

The bloods in the water, now its just a matter of which mod gets here first. :lol

 

[poppabk]

Under no circumstance does SD content look "amazing" in HD. Great scaler or no scaler.

The best you can hope for is serviceable.

What about "not SD but not HD either" resolutions?

 

[dark10x]

What about "not SD but not HD either" resolutions?

To what are you referring to? That certainly doesn't apply to the Wii (which renders at 640x480).

 

[MiamiWesker]

I am glad its not like secret rings I was worried a bit there. More like Adventure is awesome, especially if its all sonic levels (I can live with werehog.).

 

[Threi]

so there's a new revelation about the number of pixels the Wii can output? Because that is the only way this old, obvious-to-all-but-the-most-oblivious-fanboy discussion can be justified. I think everyone knows by now the image quality of the Wii.

 

[Teknoman]

I am glad its not like secret rings I was worried a bit there. More like Adventure is awesome, especially if its all sonic levels (I can live with werehog.).

Where do the Sonic Adventure comparisons come in at though? The game doesnt play anything like it from whats been shown.

 

[rezuth]

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