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Sonic Unleashed Wii News
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Teknoman said:
That's an understatement. Pretty much every character from the "pre-Sonic Adventure series re-boot" had potential, but Sega/Sonic Team are too stupid to utilize 'em.
I mean, even going back to the "3 original pimps" (Sonic, Tails, Knux), as well as Amy, Metal Sonic and Eggman himself, there's enough there that they could have worked with, such that a number of the present day characters would have been largely unnecessary.
Hell, Sonic and Eggman are the the friggin' main characters of the series, and yet they're both probably the ones that we know the LEAST amount about. Yet, we had basically 3-4 games devoted to Shadow's sappy, angsty back-story and a whole game focusing around Silver's time-traveling shenanigans. Meanwhile, both Sonic and Eggman have remained largely unchanged.
How is that the characters we have had the longest to get to know, are the ones that haven't had decent character development since Sonic Adventure 2? :lol
SuperAndroid17
Member
Neodiablo22 said:Don't trust the light
:lol :lol
I recently picked up Sonic Adventure DX, and although it's an old game it is still pretty fun to play. The action stages are nicely done and you actually have to do some platforming that works. The ending with Super Sonic was awesome as well.
I didn't mind the "shitty" friends parts in this game. Tails would just run through most of the action stages and that worked well. The airplane stuff was nicely done and the emerald hunt was alot easier than SA2 because I could see the emeralds. Who ever thought it was a good idea to make them near invisible in SA2 and let the radar pick up one at a time should be shot.
The story was hilarious. The game didn't take itself to seriously. Eggman just runs around collecting Chaos emeralds. Tricking Sonic at every step and finding birds and frogs for his evil plans. They should've left out the "Froggy" parts though. Fishing with a retarded cat might have been awesome back in the day but I doesn't hold up in 2008. Overall Sonic Adventure is just as good as the second one, SEGA should go back to this formula and fix it with a Sonic Adventure HD or something. Once they perfected this then they should move on the next Sonic style game. The problem is that all their attempts are half assed. Just like Secret Rings. It was fun but flawed, but a sequel seems unlikely so they'll never fix it. They should do what they tried in the past, keep working on one concept and improve on it. It all went down hill with Sonic Heroes.
I didn't mind the "shitty" friends parts in this game. Tails would just run through most of the action stages and that worked well. The airplane stuff was nicely done and the emerald hunt was alot easier than SA2 because I could see the emeralds. Who ever thought it was a good idea to make them near invisible in SA2 and let the radar pick up one at a time should be shot.
The story was hilarious. The game didn't take itself to seriously. Eggman just runs around collecting Chaos emeralds. Tricking Sonic at every step and finding birds and frogs for his evil plans. They should've left out the "Froggy" parts though. Fishing with a retarded cat might have been awesome back in the day but I doesn't hold up in 2008. Overall Sonic Adventure is just as good as the second one, SEGA should go back to this formula and fix it with a Sonic Adventure HD or something. Once they perfected this then they should move on the next Sonic style game. The problem is that all their attempts are half assed. Just like Secret Rings. It was fun but flawed, but a sequel seems unlikely so they'll never fix it. They should do what they tried in the past, keep working on one concept and improve on it. It all went down hill with Sonic Heroes.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
TreIII said:
I like it better that Sonic and Eggman's backstories are left as a question mark. I don't wanna know where Sonic came from. I don't wanna know about his parents. The curious mystery in the Sonic 1 japanese manual was enough for me - it simply stated that Eggman and Sonic had known each other for a long time, had been fighting for a long time, but nobody knew why.
There doesn't need to be and I don't want character development there. It fit the sort of weird, surrealist-techno-fantasy the early Sonic games so lovingly embraced. Especially Eggman. Bad guys stop being bad guys when you explain their motivations. I don't want to sympathize with him, I just want to blow his robots up.
Besides, SonicTeam doesn't believe in long-term character development. SA1 established a lot of great character development in characters like Knuckles and Tails and SA2 pretty much ignored the majority of that. Tails became stronger and more independent in SA1? Back to being Sonic-dependent in SA2. SA1 gave Knuckles this great introspective narrative about being the last of his kind and his duty to protect the Master Emerald. SA2? Knuckles is just there. No real reason, he's just sort of tagging along and PS: The Master Emerald fits in his back pocket now and it's never explained why - which was, in my opinion, two things that totally destroyed Knuckles and lead to him being replaced by Shadow as the "lone wolf badass with questionable allegiances". Knuckles never has a purpose anymore, he's just there, being Tails #2 who also happens to punch things every now and then.
Sega1991 said:
I can agree with you on the notion of backstory, but what about everything else?
For instance, I liked that, for the sake of Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (get to that in a minute), they seemed to shift focus so that Eggman saw more of an active rivalry with Tails, rather than Sonic all the time. By the end of Adventure 1, Eggman had perfect reason to see as Tails as just as much of a "threat" to his ambitions as Sonic is. By Adventure 2, they escalated that, to the point that two were squaring off on largely equal footing (machines vs. machines, their specialty).
If you don't want to go into Sonic and Egg-head's past, that's fine. But leaving them largely as static characters in a world that seemingly continues to grow and expand just makes them seem odd, in my opinion. Again, especially since they went and bothered to force stories relating to Shadow down our throats.
Agreed, for the most part, though I would amend your statement, to account for the fact that Tails DID have his independence in SA2 (hello? fighting Eggman by himself on two different occasions, winning at least one of them decisively?). HEROES was where Tails got stripped of all that development, and turned back into the Sonic fanboy.
And Knux is a sad example of an under-utilized character too. Even if it meant having Tikal stick around as a sort of "Obi Wan" figure to him, it would have been nice if they did more to help explain his roots and all that kinda crap. But as it stands now, Shadow took his "anti-hero" role, as you just said, and furthermore, Blaze stole his "loner who bears a harsh burden alone".
For Sega and Sonic Team to go through all that work to seemingly try and make Sonic into a series with a serious storyline, following Adventure, they really let the ball drop hard. And even with the times that the ball bounced back up, they let it go again. :lol
I can only hope that BioWare's game may actually up the ante in many regards, so that BW can show Sega how to do a story for Sonic RIGHT, and then leave the ball in their court, once again.
But...knowing modern day Sega... :lol
Lavpa Jasai
Member
ethelred said:
Not sure if anyone made this comment, but if this means more chao stuff, then yes please!
Death_Born
Banned
This is so right.
If the Bioware game sucks, there really is no hope for Sonic. I mean, it's BIOWARE.
titiklabingapat
Member
The real news in ONM is Elebits 2!
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
titiklabingapat said:
That isn't new though
phalestine
aka iby.h
its for Wii though.grandjedi6 said:
Father_Brain
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
It's news in that there's confirmation from an official source, and that it's for Wii rather than DS.
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_10.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_11.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_14.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_12.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_13.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_03.jpg
Going by these screens, some of the game will be played like the Secret Rings.
http://www.rinconportatil.net/image...)-Nintendo_WiiScreenshots3952SonicWii_002.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_11.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_14.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_12.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_13.jpg
http://gameinfowire.com/img/hidden_images/2453\sonicunleashed_ps3_03.jpg
Going by these screens, some of the game will be played like the Secret Rings.
http://www.rinconportatil.net/image...)-Nintendo_WiiScreenshots3952SonicWii_002.jpg
titiklabingapat
Member
Those are plausible Wii screens. Although with much bullshot.yoopoo said:
TheGreatDave
Banned
I loved Elebits. For real.
A sequel could be really good. It has a good foundation.
A sequel could be really good. It has a good foundation.
Death_Born
Banned
Slavik81 said:
Innotech said:
I still dont know how to maintain a decent amount of speed on grind rails.
Also story or not, I liked how Tails was getting from under Sonic and becoming a hero on his own (still friends, but not like some kinda big brother figure to em). Same with Knuckles and his history.
MarzipaNMOS
Member
ethelred said:
wha....
Please, if there is a god/supreme deity/mercy in this world, let there be a Chao garden, and let the Wii version be bc with the GC Sonic Adventures.
AniHawk said:
:lol :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7vBRbOMKITeknoman said:Fixed.
Actually maybe not, since he fell from the Final Zone in Sonic 2 as well...but I cant find any shots of that (was trying to show how long Sonic has been heading to infinity and beyond).
MarzipaNMOS
Member
Teknoman said:
Sales +1
on the one hand chao playing a big role in the main game worries me as far as gameplay is concerned, but on the other, I finally get a chao garden.
Innotech said:
sonic team did the SA2: B port I believe
Aaron Strife
Banned
I'm pretty sure she was teased about her chest, but whatever.
I'd like to say this game looks promising, but I said that about 06, too.
Also, ONM seems to be being harped on for "pointing out the obvious." To be fair, this was probably going to be exclusive until Sega leaked it on their servers.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Jirotrom said:
I was replying to Innotech, and his wonderful enthusiasm.
