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Sony FY2016 financial results (60 million PS4 shipped LTD)
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Pankratous
Member
Seems to me like PS4 will break 100M before it dies. Will be nice to have a console do that again.
wapplew
Member
That's "Holyshit! Unbelievable! Beast!" in subtle way.
Yes Germany had Slim@199 as early as October - but IIRC most of Europe had similar deals at some point or another last holiday. The point is it showed they had a lot of price flexibility in the Slim even last year, so unless competition drops the ball really badly, it'd be weird not seeing them @199 this year.orochi91 said:
The Praiseworthy
Member
60M in 3 years and a 1\4....... wow, serouisly well deserved.
I won't believe it until it happens. This generation feels like it started only a little while ago and they supposedly are selling at this rate?
dragonflys545
Member
It really is man... Now they just gotta keep bringing over them niche titles, and give us a release date of Shenmue 3 we are all good to go
While they are at it, get the remaster of Shenmue 1 and 2 as a fall release 17'.Callibretto
Member
Is it still ahead of ps2 launch alligned?
Some Nobody
Junior Member
That's what growth in the hobby, reasonably priced system, and tons upon tons of great games will do for you. The PS4 > PS3, and soon the sales will reflect that.
dragonflys545
Member
Perhaps wait until E3? See if they're planning some sort of bundles. Perhaps a Persona 5 slim bundle... Who knows.
PS3 was dipping below 100K monthly sales in the US throughout 2007. The price killed that thing for three years. So exceeding the LTD sales on it in under five years is not a huge surprise. Modern console launch lineups are not that exciting with so few games being genuinely exclusive, but $399 and the software the system has gotten is what sells a console these days.
Yea they have a very, very aggressive profit forecast for next year
wapplew
Member
More competition too, tough year. Still 18m is a lot of units, it will be keep tracking ahead of PS2 if they hit that target.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/20/shuhei-yoshida-reportedly-unsure-if-there-will-be-a-ps5
Somebody ask Shu again now, 1 year later!
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I'm assuming the Wii hit a wall just after the period depicted on this graph.
What is the likelihood of Sony hitting their 18M target this year i wonder. They have basically had every major game locked in at this point for marketing rights before the year even started
is it just me who keeps thinking with these kinds of advantages they didn't even really need to invest in pro
is it just me who keeps thinking with these kinds of advantages they didn't even really need to invest in pro
vpance
Member
Biggest since 20 years ago. Took them 2 decades to return to where they peaked. Damn.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I doubt they ever expected the Pro to be a serious seller, it was a niche product for hardcore fans and was marketed as such.
wapplew
Member
Sony overall or PS only?
Sony.
Does not account for inflation.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I'd instantly bite on a Pro this holiday if any of those games get custom console bundles.
A Pro version of something similar to this with Destiny 2, i'd be all over it.
I think it was more of a test to see how something like that will be received/adopted. We will know by next year if the pro stops the decline in hardware sales tat usually happens around this time of a generation.
i've been arguing that since before it launched, which is why it baffles me why they even bothered. Atleast with MS, they are trying to get back the power crown so they can gain some advantages and marketshare, so it makes sense for them to launch an iterative machine. Pro still feels like an answer to a question that was not posed
78M PS4's expected to have been sold LTD in March 2018.
That's just over 4 and a half years.
This console is just beasting.
This is absolutely crazy.
I'm still in awe how PS4 is tracking above PS2.
Surpassing the PS3 sometime in 2018 could never have been imagined back in 2013.
That's just over 4 and a half years.
This console is just beasting.
This is absolutely crazy.
I'm still in awe how PS4 is tracking above PS2.
Surpassing the PS3 sometime in 2018 could never have been imagined back in 2013.
IIRC, support for the Wii really dried up towards the end of its lifespan. Cheaply made party games stopped selling big numbers and nintendo's own efforts weren't quite as successful (Wii Music anyone?).
PS4 absolutely dominating this generation. I just hope Sony gets why they're having this success and doesn't go Sony 2006 or Microsoft 2010 on us.
wapplew
Member
How? Sell more buildings?
Dougieflesh
Member
Any news about revenue?
1st Course
Member
To be fair the PS2 didn't have the luxury of having simultaneous worldwide launch.
Sell buildings? You ran out of jokes?
McMoneyman
Member
Congratulations Sony!
(Saw a thread was posted about it)
(Saw a thread was posted about it)
Melchiah
Member
And to think, that in the beginning of this gen people claimed none of the current systems would reach the sales of last gen, because console gaming is dead.
Pro has always been positioned clearly by Sony: niche device for those wanting more oomph as the gen goes on and allowing for better alignment of AAA games with PC across the gen.
They clearly never expected - nor even tried to encourage - majority to shift from regular PS4.
No doubt they expect the scales to tip more to Pro over next 2 to 3 years but it was always positioned as a high end version for a minority of their install base.
Interficium
Banned
An above-average portion (relative to previous generations) of the total consumer spend on games this generation has been from the hardcore segment, that's why you're seeing Sony (and Microsoft with Scorpio) try to create more products that cater to them.
Things look bleak for MS this holiday though... a lot of people on Gaf seem to think it'll be a generation reset where MS will simply start winning because they have the more powerful box that will be "the best place to play the big AAA 3rd party titles"... but all those third party titles have exclusive marketing agreements with Sony. Microsoft literally can't even mention Call of Duty, Battlefront 2, Red Dead, Destiny, etc's names in their marketing. That's not even getting into the likely price drops and bundles Sony will likely deploy simultaneously with Scorpio.
So this report only seems to have gaming revenue number for whole year.
I searched Google and found previous quarter revenue numbers. Is this calculation correct?
Q1+Q2+Q3: 330.4 + 319.9 + 617.7 = 1,268 billion yen.
FY2016: 1,649.8 billion yen.
Q4: 1,649.8 - 1,268 = 381.8 billion yen revenue for the gaming and network sector in Q4 alone.
= $3.43 billion.
Compared to MS's combined gaming revenue of $1.928 billion last quarter.
I searched Google and found previous quarter revenue numbers. Is this calculation correct?
Q1+Q2+Q3: 330.4 + 319.9 + 617.7 = 1,268 billion yen.
FY2016: 1,649.8 billion yen.
Q4: 1,649.8 - 1,268 = 381.8 billion yen revenue for the gaming and network sector in Q4 alone.
= $3.43 billion.
Compared to MS's combined gaming revenue of $1.928 billion last quarter.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
They bothered because, even though it was niche, there was a demand for it. I don't have any figures but AFAIK it's been selling reasonably well, most people that own one are quite pleased with it. I know I am.
Also...
They have a very agressive forcast for their Semiconductor division.
Yes, read the OP.
LOL... Gunning for what? On Dec. 31, 2017 add up all the sales of the Switch, Xbox One, & Scorpio and that number will still be well well under what the PS4 has done.
If it takes that long for scales to tip, what's the point if they are going to be introducing PS5 only imminently by then? Retire base PS4 and sell a slimmed down Pro as the main PS4 model in addition to PS5?
Dreams-Visions
Member
Well deserved. They put gamers first with their hardware and software decisions. And just look at all those stability updates. Trust-building!
Yes, that is right. But this discussion is old already at this point. It wasn't expected by many that it would still hold that position so long. And I think noone is expecting it to come even near the LTD numbers of PS2.
But if they reach their goal for next FY, PS4 will still be at top at this time next year. That's still a great achievement.
Japanmanx3
Member
Crazy sales!
Melchiah
Member
The Pro was sold out in some parts of Europe, and Asia I believe. It seems like there wasn't quite as much demand for it in America though, or maybe the other regions got smaller shipments?