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Sony Spain talks PlayStation 4 [Yoshida: Better Visuals The "Gene" Of PlayStation]
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hamchan said:
People keep saying the way MS is heading with Kinect but how does this translate to future hardware. If nothing else, wouldn't Kinect suggest MS's commitment to advanced technology? Isn't "Kinect = Casual" so "Low tech = Casual" therefore "Kinect = Low tech" a logical fallacy?
I don't think this is true. I think Sony will stick with pushing new technologies. I say this due to the specs of the Vita. The company's general philosophy seems to be intact.
I agree that both of the next gen consoles will have an incredibly emphasis on social media and the casual gaming audience. Facebook/Twitter integration standard and so forth. But, I like to think Sony will stick up for the core more than Microsoft and their console would reflect that.
I do see Sony trying to be profitable on each console sold very early on. Maybe 1 year of losses at the most. So the jump may not be to the 32 SPU beast people want.
I agree that both of the next gen consoles will have an incredibly emphasis on social media and the casual gaming audience. Facebook/Twitter integration standard and so forth. But, I like to think Sony will stick up for the core more than Microsoft and their console would reflect that.
I do see Sony trying to be profitable on each console sold very early on. Maybe 1 year of losses at the most. So the jump may not be to the 32 SPU beast people want.
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Deleted member 17706
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I think it would be awesome if the next generation of consoles from Sony and Microsoft weren't all that much powerful. It would be a big boost for PC gaming! By late 2014, even basic systems with integrated graphics will probably be as powerful as the PS3/360 if not more.
Barkley's Justice
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Someone made the analogy (Engadget? Ars?) that in the early 90's all the hardcore PC gamers were getting pissed that these "casual-friendly" consoles were starting to take up all the shelf space in Software Etc & Babbages, etc.
20 years later and we're seeing the cycle all over again: Only this time hardcore console gamers are lamenting all of these casual-friendly iOS & Facebook games, etc
20 years later and we're seeing the cycle all over again: Only this time hardcore console gamers are lamenting all of these casual-friendly iOS & Facebook games, etc
cosmicblizzard
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Good, keep development costs down and all that. We'll never get Japan back if there's another drastic leap.
Of course this guy probably doesn't know shit, so we should wait and see.
Of course this guy probably doesn't know shit, so we should wait and see.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Xbox 3 more powerful than PS4 by a significant margin? Now that'd be very interesting.
Looks like Sony is copying Nintendo's Wii U gameplan.
Looks like Sony is copying Nintendo's Wii U gameplan.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This guy is a genius. Lower expectations for new hardware to the point till they can't get any lower. Kind of like how the Vita $249 price point was amazing since people were assuming outrageous numbers like $399. If they kept hammering on it's affordability before E3 nobody would be totally shocked by the $249.
Why tip your cap about anything on the console at this point? Saying it's infinitely stronger than the PS3 doesn't do anything boost PS3 sales.
Why tip your cap about anything on the console at this point? Saying it's infinitely stronger than the PS3 doesn't do anything boost PS3 sales.
Right. But it's still a powerful piece of tech in comparison with what's available on the portable market today. If Sony completely abandoned the emphasis on powerful devices, I don't think the specs would be what they are.antonz said:
I also clarified that concessions would be made.
RedAssedApe
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Sony Europe? -_-
Buckethead
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They know nothing in Europe.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Kevin said:
PC development is somewhat bound by the lowest common denominators (consoles), Sony following Nintendo's lead would only reinforce the bottleneck on the PC.
CountAntonius
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With how much they seem to be pushing Vita's cross compatibility releasing a monster spec ps4 may just kill off a big selling point for the handheld. Kinda makes sense that the next system still be somewhat near the ps3 I'd think.
airmangataosenai
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Gaborn said:
Those systems also came out a year to a year and a half prior to those "More Powerful" platforms. Playstation and Playstation 2 were far more powerful than the systems that preceded them. Would you really say the Playstation was in any way comparable to the 3DO or Jaguar? The Saturn came out at the same time and look at the difference between the two of them (In Before "Saturn did 2D Better").
As for the topic at hand I'm not really too concerned with his comments. European execs from any of the major companies seem to know very little solid information about R&D occurring overseas on any new projects and the idea that they'd reverse their strategy after the Vita seems very unlikely, that's more reassuring we'll see a solid leap than anything else.
As impressive as the Vita is, its not exactly bleeding edge or anything. Off the shelf parts based on like 2009 architecture I believe? If anything its a return to the smart Sony who had hardware with a good balance of power vs. affordability. Not overpriced monstrosities that were stuffed with exotic hardware.MuseManMike said:
Anyway a leap as large as the jump from the previous gen to the current gen is not exactly feasible in the near future, so this wouldn't really surprise me. More to the point I don't see Sony building a $599 machine again, considering the power boost it got over the 360 turned out to be useless outside of exclusives. Better for them to moderately beats out the WiiU, thats easy to develop for and try to reclaim some of the ground they lost this generation.
That said I'm not inclined to believe anything from the OP, but something along those lines fits with my expectations.
amstradcpc
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If true Microsoft will get my money this time.
Secks4Food
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Gaborn said:
Yup, compared to the success of the previous Playstations, especially the PS2, the PS3 was a failed experiment of higher performance and higher price. If they're smart, they'll try and beat the Wii U price point by $100 and try and pack as much power into that budget as they can, possibly at a loss at first like the Vita (the lack of any sort of screen or other such gimmick will definitely help alleviate costs, assuming we get a more traditional console).
TheDrowningMan
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A massive power leap is not necessary. A modest bump which will allow all games to run natively in 1080p while maintaining a smooth frame rate would be fine.
Even the top PC games of today are able to be replicated to some end on the current consoles, and I think there are a couple of reasons for that - diminishing returns, but also the necessity to contain budgets. It's sensible to allow games to be developed without bankrupting more publishers, so I think that as much as anything is going to ensure that we see a smaller bump and larger gap between console generations.
Put it this way - N64 vs PC 2002 or Xbox 360 vs PC 2011. There's been a huge, huge narrowing of the chasm which used to exist.
Even the top PC games of today are able to be replicated to some end on the current consoles, and I think there are a couple of reasons for that - diminishing returns, but also the necessity to contain budgets. It's sensible to allow games to be developed without bankrupting more publishers, so I think that as much as anything is going to ensure that we see a smaller bump and larger gap between console generations.
Put it this way - N64 vs PC 2002 or Xbox 360 vs PC 2011. There's been a huge, huge narrowing of the chasm which used to exist.
amstradcpc said:
If both Wii U and PS4 are underpowered, I don't see much reason why MS would make themselves bleed more by going the high powered route.
Would be hilarious to see all 3 next gen. consoles be along the same power levels. :lol
