icecold1983
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well i mean if thats your idea of being close, then we just view things differently. you are comparing to the top most of the 2 bf4 videos right?
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Star Wars Battlefront Trailer, game will be 60 fps
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well i mean if thats your idea of being close, then we just view things differently. you are comparing to the top most of the 2 bf4 videos right?
farmerboy
Member
Every now and then you see a trailer that just instantly hooks you into the game.
This is it. Pretty much nothing is stopping me from getting this.
Though I have a sneaking suspicion that the movie and it's trailer are generating a lot of goodwill that is overflowing to the game.
BUT I DON'T CARE. I'm getting it.
This is it. Pretty much nothing is stopping me from getting this.
Though I have a sneaking suspicion that the movie and it's trailer are generating a lot of goodwill that is overflowing to the game.
BUT I DON'T CARE. I'm getting it.
"close" regarding the game, they are.
but very "close" regarding the quality of post effects, I dont think even pc ultra video manages that.
the point is, all of us try to figure out how the game will look like. these three videos give a nice example.
Always-honest
Banned
It is game engine footage. It's the same engine that they use for the game.Right....right at the end after the playstation logo, on the trademark screen.
During the actual video of star wars stuff it says clearly "Game Engine Footage."
No one would be confused at all. That's why they did it clear like that!
"EA Presents"
"A DICE game"
vs end of video, past a few splash screens:
No wonder everyone is clear on things.
I don't understand how an experienced gaffer could be fooled by this.
It's the same "trick" every time
correct, and I think many people loose the point here.. the point should be:
"hey guys, look at this! we went and captured every fuckin' thing of starwars movies we could,
and we put it in our engine that we create starwars shooter game for you.
here, take a look how we digitalized some of your favorite things ever:"
so, with this being the message, I am happy for what I saw.
I've read so many posts in various recent battlefront threads hoping the graphics are real, I've no doubt the "Game Engine Footage" is mostly responsible. "Oh it's going to be 60fps? Graphics were fake confirmed," or something to that effect.
With millions of views already a lot of people are going to have some warped expectations.
They'd assume game engine means they are using the similar graphical settings as there will be for gameplay, as opposed to them changing the graphical settings (in-engine) specifically for the trailer and misleading them.
Some will fall for the same trick every time, hopeful I guess
Both.
Black Duke
Neo Member
So 720p/60fps on PS4?
3rd person vehicles 1st person on foot?
No you can toggle on the fly at any time.
I hope not, would be 480p60 for the Xbox One in that case lol.
Seriously, 900@60 for the PS4 and 720@60 for the Xbox One is more likely.
Gameplay looks less compelling than in engine "theatrical" footage. Always. And considering this was timed to line up with the movie teaser, well your argument holds little weight with me at least.
Kssio_Aug
Member
We are running in circles here. If people want to believe they're gonna release it for PS4/XB1 with the same IQ of that trailer that's ok, but I'm mostly certain you will get disappinted.
The "engine footage" is well known by not meaning the same quality as gameplay by a long time now. DICE is not promising the same IQ, this is just a promotional trailer presenting the game environments and models.
The "engine footage" is well known by not meaning the same quality as gameplay by a long time now. DICE is not promising the same IQ, this is just a promotional trailer presenting the game environments and models.
Black Duke
Neo Member
Actutally the PSN preorder page says 720p, at least here in italy https://store.playstation.com/#!/it-it/giochi/star-wars-battlefront-standard-edition/cid=EP0006-CUSA00634_00-SWBSTANDARDPREOR
I don't know if it's reliable
Kölsch Bloot
Member
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
I hope for more than 720p on XboxOne... its about damn time that this Engine gets more improvements for both consoles.
Rising_Hei
Member
Cool, another Battlefield mod, colour me dissapointed, this just has hype because it's of Star Wars, but nothing could make me think that this is not just another BF skin :/
I don't care sh** about the visuals, all i care about is about the game, but this isn't trying anything new...
I don't care sh** about the visuals, all i care about is about the game, but this isn't trying anything new...
It's 720p on ONE because 60 fps + referred lightning engine, no matter how much they improve the engine, they can't add silicon to a console
Aces&Eights
Member
I'm a huge Star Wars fanboy. Hell, my real name is Luke and I was born in the early 70s for fucks sake and even I know that the final game, on ps4, will not look like anything we watched in that trailer ESPECIALLY if it's running at 60fps.
I'm hoping the game is good but...we've all been down this road before. Let's wait for actual gameplay before losing our minds.
I'm hoping the game is good but...we've all been down this road before. Let's wait for actual gameplay before losing our minds.
Yup. But that in-engine pre-rendered cinematic-directed trailer was specifically tailored to generate pre-orders, they can't show actual gameplay.
People will still call bullshit on it and be skeptical. It doesn't matter.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I take it you didn't play the first two games.
Aces&Eights
Member
Not necessarily. If they showed a MP match that had people's handles above their heads just like in every other game, playing out with a match timer, HUD, etc and backed the camera off to show someone sitting at a ps4 while also showing the monitor AND it looked just like what we saw then I, for one, would be all aboard the choo-choo and would pre order it immediately.
Cool, another Battlefield mod, colour me dissapointed, this just has hype because it's of Star Wars, but nothing could make me think that this is not just another BF skin :/
I don't care sh** about the visuals, all i care about is about the game, but this isn't trying anything new...
It's 720p on ONE because 60 fps + referred lightning engine, no matter how much they improve the engine, they can't add silicon to a console
A Battlefield mod? So the original 2 Battlefronts were Battlefield mods too right?
Always-honest
Banned
Yep. And with trailers and cutscenes not being interactive or dynamic, they can (and will) focus more on making them look better in terms of lighting, anti aliassing, etc. They can direct them as they please.
But i have no doubt the game will look pretty great. As will Uncharted 4.
Pretty much what I would say to the people that think this is what actual gameplay would look like.
Lets face it - if this was in game footage, they would scream it from the roof tops and describe it specifically as such.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
CoD isn't very ambitious, from a design standpoint. 40 players instead of 64 might indicate that they're pushing up against some hardware limitations.
So, which is it? People are claiming the new footage looks way too good and isn't achievable on current hardware. But now it supposedly doesn't look much better than Battlefield 4?
Surely if it looks so close to Battlefield 4 it should be easily achievable, right?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Likely so because of how much better Battlefield 4 ran at 48 players compared to 64.
Its the textures and lighting that make this game look so much better than Battlefield 4. PBR and Photogrammery are really "next"-gen.
WRT bf4, i guess cutting out half the light sources, reducing the quality of lights remaining, simplifying the precomputed GI, axing all the reactive particles, removing all of the reflections, removing the water on the floor, downgrading the shaders on the ocean, and reducing the geometry of the level cant be conclusively called a downgrade
Stating something is easy, actually substantiating it is another thing altogether.
It's also easy to cherrypick screenshots, but comparing two very different areas doesn't prove anything. That's a terrible comparison.
As far as the Battlefield 4 thing, don't you think you are blowing it a little out of proportion? Downgrade or not, Battlefield 4 still managed to compete with Crysis 3 for the title of best-looking shooter on PC. That's no small accomplishment.
And, yeah, when I watched the two videos at 3 or 4am my sleep deprived brain didn't notice any significant differences. If you or others have gone over it with a fine-toothed comb and documented changes or downgrades, that's great. I doubt, though, if you put those videos in front of 1,000 random longtime gamers that many of them would tell you one looks substantially better than the other.
Poor wording on my part. The music's great, but overused. It's a boring choice of music on their part.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
lame excuse
icecold1983
Member
the screens are from the exact same environment, theres nothing to cherry pick. the difference is several orders of magnitude.
k. im sure you could find people who think killzone 2 matched up to that 2005 cg trailer as well. doesnt change the facts. and battlefield 4 does not compete with crysis 3 from a graphics standpoint.
Portugeezer
Member
So, uh... People got to see game play, all this graphics talk, just release a gameplay video to public.
darth_infamous
Member
They will at E3
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Okay, now we're muddling it a bit. They've released screenshots and they've released footage. The screenshots currently look more like BF4 than their first near-CGI teases.
The footage, however, looks quite similar to the teasers (minor changes from non-gameplay footage to begin with) which has a lot of processing and effects to smooth it into that blurry space of CGI looks. The trailers look absolutely unattainable on consoles by far, making dev comments about it 'really looking like that' and 'on all platforms' and 'representative of PS4' seem to be setups for disappointment.
So the trailer and comments by DICE on it seem totally over the top, but the new screenshots don't seem near as unattainable, though typical bullshot issues are expected.
Thursday War
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MADGAME
Member
I'm kind of glad. We'll still be able to choose different species/genders, but the feel of the universe will be authentic. Some may not like that but I'm good with it.
NullPointer
Member
On both sides of that equation.
How long is it?