excelsiorlef
Member
Literally talking about having to go out of their way to activate it here.... by your logic there should never be any any calories app anywhere...
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"Strong user feedback" results in Google removing Cupcake Calorie counter from Maps
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Literally talking about having to go out of their way to activate it here.... by your logic there should never be any any calories app anywhere...
Skellig Gra
Member
cpp_is_king
Member
The benefits of the many fall victim to the needs of the few.
As someone who is not super happy about how much weight Ive gained recently, I would have loved this
As someone who is not super happy about how much weight Ive gained recently, I would have loved this
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Accurate. The cupcake thing sounds stupid, but the idea itself is sound.
Oh cool, she also links an article about calorie consumption in her tweet stream from 2014. While I think (depending on you're own health and medical issues) that the types of calories you consume matter, weight loss is largely related to the amount of calories in vs calories out.
cpp_is_king
Member
Wait, I havent updated yet. Does this mean if I never update Ill keep it?
I can see how this can be triggering and not something that should be laughed at by people. Yes America does have an obesity crisis but we also have a very big ED crisis that not a lot of people talk about. As someone with an ED I can understand how they feel. Technology helped me bring my disorder to a whole new level. Tracking exercise, Calories, MORE EXERCISE! I had crazy amounts of apps and my life started revolving around them while my health kept taking hit after hit. It really isn't something to laugh off.
On the topic of the app, I do think it's a good idea if implemented properly and has proper warnings, opt in and opt out features. For some people this may be an eye opener to get them up and moving, but the other side has to have options too.
On the topic of the app, I do think it's a good idea if implemented properly and has proper warnings, opt in and opt out features. For some people this may be an eye opener to get them up and moving, but the other side has to have options too.
excelsiorlef
Member
Why she was annoyed with the inability to turn it off and the cupcake measurement... You act like she is being crazy
PixelatedBookake
Junior Member
I'll be honest the cupcake thing does sound patronizing. Just make it tell you how many calories you would lose by walking. Don't cutsiefy it. The people who want to lose weight will use it and the people who don't won't.
Vire
Member
Yes, she is being crazy. My god, I wish my life was so first world problems that I got upset over a cupcake icon in my GPS app.
This is unbelievable.
Skellig Gra
Member
TatteredHat
Member
People need to stop hiding behind other people with actual eating disorders. 40% obesity rate in adults in the US, you don't all have serious eating disorders preventing you from losing weight.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Man, you can tell you're not young any more when you see 'ED' and your first thought is 'Erectile Dysfunction'!
YuriLowell
Member
Should just be a feature that you can turn on and off.
Taking it out entirely is stupid.
Taking it out entirely is stupid.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
If theyre willing to go out of their way to opt in, they likely already have an app that counts their calories. This Google triggering is just dumb.
excelsiorlef
Member
She made a tweet and pointed out valueable concerns
There's no reason for it to be on by default, unable to be turned off and measured in cupcakes.
An opt-in is harmful? Too bad. The utility is more important to more people.
Skellig Gra
Member
Value of the concerns aside, she tweeted many things that were little more than a rant.
snausagesUK
Member
Incidentally citymapper has been doing this for ages and ages, but I suspect it doesn't get used much outside of London. Stuff like 'this is how many bananas or lattes it will take to get from A to B'
They don't have a cupcake though, just a green man.
Yeah histrionics is not a good way to get people to take your argument seriously.
I get that people can have a strong negative emotional reaction to being reminded that they have a real or imagined problem. But part of taking on and dealing with these kinds of traumas surely doesn't include becoming very avoidant over fairly trivial things.
They don't have a cupcake though, just a green man.
Yeah histrionics is not a good way to get people to take your argument seriously.
I get that people can have a strong negative emotional reaction to being reminded that they have a real or imagined problem. But part of taking on and dealing with these kinds of traumas surely doesn't include becoming very avoidant over fairly trivial things.
Okay this made me laugh but fortunately I don't think I'll ever have to worry about that ED since I still have all my womanly parts XP.
I was always mad about it having such a low cap on the days I walked a lot.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
If by pointed out, you mean raged, then yes.
It really isnt that big a deal. Maybe complain that it should be opt-in. But to pretend that flipping the fuck out is justified because its hurting all the people with eating disorders is disingenuous.
As you pointed out earlier, people with eating disorders likely already have methods to count their calories as they walk. Raising hell on this as if Google is hurting people with a cupcake icon is just kinda silly.
Arcana Wiz
Member
I'll tell the truth i would LOVED this.
More often than not when i'm using google maps i wonder how much i would burn by walking to certain locations.
More often than not when i'm using google maps i wonder how much i would burn by walking to certain locations.
Elfstar
Member
This was such an useful feature, what the hell is wrong with you people?
Why dumb, outraged tweets posted by extremely loud and insane minorities distort reality perception so much? Why people take that shit so seriously?
I understand that the cupcake thing looked patronising though, but i'm sure that they were just trying to pull out their usual "look at us, we're a giant soulless corporation but we're so quirky and funny, don't you find us friendly? XD" shtick that Google started and everyone uses on the internet nowadays.
Just make it an option.
Why dumb, outraged tweets posted by extremely loud and insane minorities distort reality perception so much? Why people take that shit so seriously?
I understand that the cupcake thing looked patronising though, but i'm sure that they were just trying to pull out their usual "look at us, we're a giant soulless corporation but we're so quirky and funny, don't you find us friendly? XD" shtick that Google started and everyone uses on the internet nowadays.
Just make it an option.
ClosingADoor
Member
There is a limit to what you can reasonably be expected to do here. Should we remove fitness apps or other things counting calories because someone might not be able to stop themselves using it?
MistakenMobius
Member
Maybe google should cycle through various common food.
People have no idea of how many calories they invest.
Using my fitness pal, I discover how many calories you can eat without even thinking about it...
People have no idea of how many calories they invest.
Using my fitness pal, I discover how many calories you can eat without even thinking about it...
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
ITT: when you get triggered by people getting triggered.
That's in the OP. Seems reasonable. So Google removes it, instead of thinking about it and giving an option. That triggers the anti-backlash people. The initial tweet thread suggests to give an option. But google is like, fuck it. Fuck that feature, we'll remove it. Like they do commonly (like the dark themes I remember but got removed from 8.0.)
Anorexia is some of the most heart breaking disease you could witness. Google going all nuclear and just removing things, instead of engaging and adding an option, is the problem. Not that people want the mega corporation to listen and gave strong feedback.
Nor do I see anyone with good data this has a benefit. Are we arguing over a feature that we 'think' can help, or do we 'know' it will help?
That's in the OP. Seems reasonable. So Google removes it, instead of thinking about it and giving an option. That triggers the anti-backlash people. The initial tweet thread suggests to give an option. But google is like, fuck it. Fuck that feature, we'll remove it. Like they do commonly (like the dark themes I remember but got removed from 8.0.)
Anorexia is some of the most heart breaking disease you could witness. Google going all nuclear and just removing things, instead of engaging and adding an option, is the problem. Not that people want the mega corporation to listen and gave strong feedback.
Nor do I see anyone with good data this has a benefit. Are we arguing over a feature that we 'think' can help, or do we 'know' it will help?
There's a difference between pointing out valuable concerns, and tweeting things like "Oh my god and if you click walking directions it auto tells you how much food you'd burn off what the fuck" like it's the end of the goddamn world. Jesus.
Finale Fireworker
Member
I can't believe people still use "triggering" and "being triggered" in earnest given its connotations as a source of ridicule. That word has been co-opted. The word doesn't belong to you anymore. You are doing yourself no favors and delegitimizing your cause when you use a word that belongs to South Park caricatures and 4chan memes.
It blows my mind. Like, I agree that a cupcake calorie counter was stupid and sends the wrong message. But all I can think about are the reddit posts and article comments that will latch on to how "some sjw got triggered by a cupcake."
I'm glad the feature is being modified. I wish the conversation was broached with different language, though.
Ugh, just leave me alone. (slams bedroom door)
It blows my mind. Like, I agree that a cupcake calorie counter was stupid and sends the wrong message. But all I can think about are the reddit posts and article comments that will latch on to how "some sjw got triggered by a cupcake."
I'm glad the feature is being modified. I wish the conversation was broached with different language, though.
Ugh, just leave me alone. (slams bedroom door)
I definitely got triggered by her Twitter thread, and retriggered with the tired excuse of people think weight loss has more to do with hormonal imbalances than calories.
People also think that global warming isn't real
If you are going down the path of you should remove it because people can still opt in! Then I guess we should just throw away smart phones. We can't have that if people can opt in download a step counter. Fitbit needs to be shut down. We should fuck off with math because someone may realize there is a formula to figure out calories burned for distance walked
Dam she triggered.
Should we ban the imagery of cupcakes along with calories because of mental illness? Should cake advertisements be pulled from the air? Grocery store catalogues banned from mailboxes? What about the millions of things that trigger people with OCD? What about the fact that veterans can barely open their eyes in todays media environment without seeing something that could trigger their PTSD?
For some people it is hormonal, I have PCOS which just fucks everything up. I wish for me it was as simple as Calories in VS Calories out. I've lost almost one hundred pounds so far and still going but I had to learn it's just not simple for everyone.
I happily admit that I'm an idiot, but I have no idea how they're different. If someone with an eating disorder is "triggered" by seeing how many calories they might lose from going for a walk, I have no idea why seeing how many they'd gain by eating something would be any different