creativity
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Very nice. Just grabbed Fanny & Alexander and The Rules of the Game. Now I'll just have to find the time to rewatch F&A. : |
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The Criterion Collection in 2012/13: Why haven't they released *insert title here*?
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When is the next B&N sale?
Also, after checking out the DVD/Blu-ray caps on some older movies, I think I may just go the DVD route. Cheaper, and not that much of a difference...at least to my eyes.
I sent Jon Mulvaney an email about 3-4 weeks ago about the audio issue with the White blu-ray (from the Three Colors trilogy). I just got a reply from him that the new discs are in, and in order to get a replacement, you need to send in your disc. They'll send out a corrected one, along with a $10 GC to criterion.com.
If you sent them an email when Three Colors first came out, be sure to check for that email.
If you sent them an email when Three Colors first came out, be sure to check for that email.
What was wrong with the White disc? I never heard anything about it.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
Just bought it Monday! How this movie isn't as famous and respected as Seven Samurai I'll never know.
Nappuccino
Member
Did they fix the cropping issue with it?
It was mentioned in the other thread, but the problem was that the audio on White was in 2.0 surround, rather than stereo.
I'll probably be swinging by the post office today to get a little disc mailer and pop that bad boy in the mailbox tomorrow.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Did that Coney Island line up for anything yet? Requiem For A Dream mebbe?
Well Criterioncast posted a link to the wiki page for Coney Island showing about 30 films it could be.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Criterion release of The Warriors. No, seriously.
Meanwhile, the 2012 release I'm hoping finally makes it out the door is Godfrey Reggio's Qatsi Trilogy, especially Koyaanisqatsi. Here's hoping!
FnordChan
I'd kill for a Le Samourai release on blu, and not that shit they put out in France. I've loved that film ever since I saw it and they could definitely improve over the DVD version. Hell, just give me a box set with all of Melville's films! He's probably one of my favorite directors.
Could one of these be for The Game?
No, their print has a shredded edge. (ie, it's damaged)
Yet they still knowingly released it when a modern transfer exists that has all sides in tact, they just chose not to use it.
Nappuccino
Member
Did they explain their decision? It just seems like a really stupid decision when they are all about preserving film in its true, intended form.
Isn't that other "better" version cropped as well, just on a different side? I seem to remember Criterion saying that their print showed a lot more on the top and bottom, and was just showed a little bit less on the one edge.
Here's dvdbeaver's page with screenshots from both discs.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview3/harakiri.htm
To me, the Criterion transfer looks better (clarity-wise), even though it is missing quite a bit of material on the left side. I don't think that's going to detract from the film though, and definitely not enough to be a "horrible transfer" as some have stated in the past.
Nappuccino
Member
Seems like there is more on both sides in the other transfer but yes, Criterion's looks nicer. I do wonder how that other tranfer, run through Criterion's supervision, would look.
canoli2006
Member
At least I have Godzilla and Traffic to hold me over until Anatomy of a Murder.
Something about they felt their transfer had superior clarity (it doesn't) because it was giving more detail to less image or something (???)Nappucino said:
Basically, spin.
The transfer has the rough look of a stereotypically old transfer. Which isn't surprising, because it is an old transfer. Digitally overprocessed appearance, complete with EE, blown out whites, and crushed blacks.
Shochiku transfer looks nice, natural, and filmic. Which is a given, because it was done in 2011. The Criterion transfer is from 2005.
The Shochiku transfer appears to have a very very slight amount missing from the top, you can see it in the subtitle sample comparison image. (the set with "Jinnai look who's talking" etc)
I hope you're not suggesting that you'd like to see Criterion to digitally muck around with a fine looking transfer. O__O
Nappuccino
Member
Maybe it looks better in motion, but in stills the Criterion version's contrast levels appeals to me more.
ThisWreckage
Banned
I'd kill for some David Lynch movies on Criterion.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Well, they have the "pop" associated with contrast boosting, but there's also the lost detail to consider as well.
Nappuccino
Member
I guess to me the other version feels too smooth, as if someone has taken all the detail in clay and rubbed their hands over it, flattening it. So it seems like there is less detail.
Again, i probably would have to see both in motion to make any final conclusion... but that is what i get from the stills.
Eraserhead almost happened many moons ago. Alas, Criterion couldn't keep their excitement contained.
Lynch seems to be more into self-distribution (after a manner) these days.
That's because of the EE on the Criterion version. It's not detail, you could achieve the same effect by ramping up the sharpness setting on your TV. (but you shouldn't! :<)
I just put a Shochiku/MoC screenshot through a sharpening filter so you can see what I mean: click
Compare that with the Criterion and then the untouched Shochiku/MoC on DVDBeaver.
ThisWreckage
Banned
With good reason. The Blue Velvet Blu Ray is incredible.
Nappuccino
Member
hm..
out of curiosity, what do you think of Criterion's transfers on the blurays of Seven Samurai and Yojimbo?
Both are very good, and the best available [to consumers] versions of the movies.
Their High & Low transfer is great too.
Nappuccino
Member
Interesting. I own both of those and I guess I assumed they treated Hari Kari similarly.
sweet!! thanks.
ThatObviousUser
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Ah, finally! Was going to buy the DVD earlier this year but I'm glad I waited.
Unfortunately not
Their treatment of titles seems to be very uneven.I still need to get around to buying a region-B compatible player...
is the new release of it in the uk cropped? i watched three or four of his movies last year and they are pretty perfect.
my italian three (cosmic's list is pretty perfect)
1. Indiscretion of an American Wife
2. Senso
3. Rome Open City
indiscretion of an american wife/terminal station should be seen by more people.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
Divorce Italian Style is really funny. When
the dude's wife shoots her husband before he gets the chance, I just about fucking died.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Yeah, I need to get around to this one sometime. A Brief Vacation was pretty decent, too, if memory serves (although that was put out on their not-quite-good-enough HVE label way back when).
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
Here is my My Criterion page:
http://www.criterion.com/my_criterion/32910-altulster
If anyone wants to do a Criterion blu-ray trade of sorts, I am wanting to trade The Leopard and The Thin Red Line. Still thinking about Black Moon but I think it is growing on me more and more.
Le Havre is all sorts of terrible by the way.
http://www.criterion.com/my_criterion/32910-altulster
If anyone wants to do a Criterion blu-ray trade of sorts, I am wanting to trade The Leopard and The Thin Red Line. Still thinking about Black Moon but I think it is growing on me more and more.
Le Havre is all sorts of terrible by the way.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
Will probably trade Days of Heaven too but I suppose I should eventually watch it first.
Expendable.
Member
Really? I've only heard amazing things about it. Wasn't it someone's #1 of last year on here?
Nappuccino
Member
Yes you should. The imagery alone is worth keeping that movie around.
I also thought it was ridiculously overrated. Compared to earlier Aki Kaurismaki Le Havre is mawkish, uber PC melodrama with a really inane magic realism tinge.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
I actually really disliked The Man Without a Past too but this somehow managed to be quite inferior to that. Why do both films have awful benefit shows? Is that the joke? Either way I just wanted to throw stuff at the screen.
It's pretty good - a tight, rollicking samurai caper reminiscent of Kihachi Okamoto's movies. Hopefully this means they'll issue Gosha's really good movies - especially Hitokiri (Tenchu!).
I watched it today and I think you're crazy. I really enjoyed the film. I could see why you wouldn't have enjoyed it, but it's in no way terrible.