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The Defenders - Reviews Thread
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Affeinvasion
Member
It's been my experience that none of these shows can be judged by the early reviews of the first 4 episodes. They always seem to wildly vary between front and back half. I still think this being 8 episodes instead of 13 will be a good thing, but it is disappointing that it seems like they've dragged their feet a bit in the first four episodes.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
The back half of nearly every Marvel Netflix series has been worse than the first half, so this is a bit disconcerting.
OdysseusVA
Banned
comfy
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
IMO it's really only Luke Cage that suffers from this to a notable extent. I thought both Daredevil seasons and Iron First were fairly consistent (for better and worse), and JJ really only dropped a bit in the final 2 episodes of 13. Even then it was still okay.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
The scores are all right but none of the review blurbs really fill me with confidence. Also, this:
I hope it's going to be a great. The Netflixverse started out so well. But I'm keeping my expectations low because of the last two shows.
I hope it's going to be a great. The Netflixverse started out so well. But I'm keeping my expectations low because of the last two shows.
BattleMonkey
Member
I'm always blown away by the hate for the TV MCU on here.
You should watch Daredevil season 1 and 2. I just finished season 2 of Daredevil, then watched the defenders trailer and it looks like the story takes place directly after the end of season two of Daredevil.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
The events of Iron Fist will also likely be important.
Because it's bad, well apart from DD
ryutaro's mama
Member
Yes it was but this hot take wasn't.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
Do I need to watch Luke Cage and Iron Fist to get anything out of this? I've gotten pretty burnt out of Marvel and super heroes by now, and those shows look cpmpletely uninteresting to me, not sure why I want to watch this, but I kinda want to for some reason.
I'm very ready for super heroes to die out now. I don't have the time or interest to keep up with all these connected shows and movies. Comic con really disappointed me this year, it's just one super hero after anothrr at the expense of everything else. Oh well.
I'm very ready for super heroes to die out now. I don't have the time or interest to keep up with all these connected shows and movies. Comic con really disappointed me this year, it's just one super hero after anothrr at the expense of everything else. Oh well.
Luke Cage less than Iron Fist. IF story most likely directly ties into what will go down in The Defenders.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Right? Literally every other major film studio is trying to set up their own interconnected cinematic universe now but no - Avengers didn't shift paradigms in production or anything.
Lord...
This is correct, don't listen to Haloid's order
Also, everyone, the Daredevil team is making this Defenders miniseries. (That's why there's no season three of Daredevil this year.) If anyone is able to make a Defenders show work, the Daredevil team is our best chance.
ryutaro's mama
Member
What if I told you that you weren't obligated to watch or care about any of this media, thus it "dying out" for you personally?
Exactly.
Affeinvasion
Member
I agree. That's what I'm saying though. There is no consistency between the shows. Some of the series are better at the end and some are better at the beginning so it's hard to predict how Defenders will be.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Well, it's all very samey. Daredevil was a breath of fresh air in genre TV because we don't have many mature superhero shows. But after two seasons of that, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist, I'm sorta burnt out. I know it's supposed to be street level but they all fight against mob boss types who are putting up a more legit public image. Combine that with shoestring budgets, bad location scouting, and having to film in the same city...the backlash was inevitable.
The writing isn't particularly sophisticated either, so there really isn't much to look forward to other than the occasional nice setpiece. But even those are all very similar and only happen in the first 3 or 4 episodes.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Then don't watch superhero stuff. There, I solved this conundrum.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
Lol, now why didn't I think of that.
I like a lot of different stuff, but super heroes are dominating. I'm kinda over saturated with it by now and ready for something new. Is that okay with you?
Damn, I'm so glad I have you to point out the obvious for me.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Then don't watch superhero stuff
Sounds mediocre. Not that I expected more after Luke Cage, Iron Fist and the second half of DareDevil season 2, especially since it seems to focus on those zombie ninjas from DD S2.
I really wonder how season 2 of Jessica Jones is going to be. I liked season 1 a lot, but that was mostly because of David Tennant. Now granted, I know next to nothing about Jessica Jones, so maybe she has another villain that's as scary as Tennant, but I feel that they might've made a huge mistake by killing him off.
I really wonder how season 2 of Jessica Jones is going to be. I liked season 1 a lot, but that was mostly because of David Tennant. Now granted, I know next to nothing about Jessica Jones, so maybe she has another villain that's as scary as Tennant, but I feel that they might've made a huge mistake by killing him off.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No they aren't.
They account for less than 10% of all studio releases in any given year. Most years you can still count the number of superhero films on one hand. Maybe a couple fingers on the second.
If you think that genre is "dominating" the cinematic landscape it's a sign your view of it has been narrowed.
ryutaro's mama
Member
My point remains. There is absolutely NOTHING stopping you from seeking out something new if that is what you want. Comic book media, while promoted heavily, is a small portion of annual output.
In fact, at that same show, SDCC, there was a mountain of non-comic book content shown and discussed.
Not sure why you think studios should stop putting this product out because YOU don't want it anymore.
Inferno313
Banned
Yeah, like. I love these damn things, and I've seen all the ones that have been released this year. But they still don't even make up half of all the wonderful films I've seen this year.
The phenomenon of people who only see comic-book movies and then complain about only seeing comic-book movies will never not astound me.
Is Disney not a studio?
I was excited as hell about The Defenders becoming a thing when Daredevil started but now Marvel's Netflix shows are just diminishing returns so I've lost all interest in everything apart from Daredevil S3 (because Born Again) and Punisher.
I'll still give this a watch because 8 episodes is fine but after how uneven Jones and Cage were and how outright bad Iron Fist was I'm not exactly overwhelmed with hype here.
I'll still give this a watch because 8 episodes is fine but after how uneven Jones and Cage were and how outright bad Iron Fist was I'm not exactly overwhelmed with hype here.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
"including a very cringe-worthy decision to play hip hop every time we see Luke in the first hour when no one else gets a soundtrack we get it, guys; hes black."
I mean, what do you expect? They get together in episode 1 and spend the next 12 punching their way to victory?
Strangelove77
Member
I haven't seen Iron Fist, but what happened behind the scenes that made it so much worse than the other shows? Did they get a bad writer, show runner or what?
Maintenance
Member
Bad actor, bad fight scenes and bad script.
Good to see. I really only care about Dare Devil as I haven't watched the others. My wife made the comment on the second trailer that dropped after just watching the Justice League trailer "See... I actually would watch that..." (Referring to 'The Defenders'). To which I replied "It's Marvel, so yeah."
Sirpopopop
Member
The people in this thread knocking TV critics have never read Alan Sepinwall, the AV Club, Maureen Ryan, Andy Greenwald, James Poniewozik, or Vox's reviews.
To quote the great LaVar Ball, "Stay in your lane."
To quote the great LaVar Ball, "Stay in your lane."
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
I'm gonna bail out of here, cause people sure have fragile hearts when it comes to super heroes. I'm not asking anyone to stop doing anything. At all. I'm just kinda full with it. Get it? It was a nice meal. I've had the same desert for a few years now, and I'm ready for a change. Am I so blind that I can't see there's other stuff being made? Nah. But the big budget blockbuster stuff is dominated by super heroes. Is that a crime, and I trying to make it stop? Nah, I'm not as invested in this as you, clearly. I'm just bored with it by now.
Mostly, I'm just ready for my collectible websites to find something else to report on than yet another lkne of marvel figurines. But hey, my problem, not yours. You can relax. Peace. Go back to dicussing the defenders, which is the show my original post was about. The rest of it was just me kinda gently venting over not being a fan of everything being so connected. Not my cup of tea.
But I am very happy it's yours and I hope you have a fantastic time.
Money, Money, Money...
Obliterator
Member
Sounds solid enough for me.
You seem to have left the thread, but what you're questioning is actually a statement of fact.
No season split rankings for Daredevil S2?
Considering Luke Cage had more focus on music (hip hop) than the other shows this doesn't seem like a big deal.
I'm not surprised. Even Daredevil S2 had some God awful lighting fighrs inciherent.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Can't really please everyone, which is fine. Both Jessica and Luke were very well received shows. Plenty of people think Jessica was the best Netflix show. I'd personally give that to S2 of Daredevil.