Thanks.king zell said:
Hmm, I think we should use their next quarter because May, June & July would fit better in that "Apr - Jun 09" system.Opiate said:Take 2's last reporting should be used. They don't report on the same quarterly shifts as everyone else: they filed their report in June.
Their total for the quarter was (10.08), giving a total of (60.468) for the year thus far. All figures in millions.
http://ir.take2games.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-09-6187
http://www.hudson.co.jp/corp/finance/pdf/090730.pdfResults for the 3 Months Ended June 2009
Net Sales: 4,058 million yen
Net Income: 343 million yen
Yes. They're extremely smart cookies when it comes to making money.zero9 said:Nintendo made more money during the Gamecube years than Sony did with the PS2?
Am I reading these numbers right?
Yes. Of course, the GBA most likely had something to do with it.zero9 said:Nintendo made more money during the Gamecube years than Sony did with the PS2?
Am I reading these numbers right?
Results for the 3 Months Ended April 2009
Net Revenue: $ 20,548,000
Net Income: $ - 1,696,000
Revenue by platform
Code:Three Months Ended April 09 (2008) Nintendo Wii $ 10,734,000 ($ 3,204,000) Nintendo DS $ 9,305,000 ($ 9,010,000) Other $ 509,000 ($ 561,000) TOTAL $ 20,548,000 ($ 12,775,000)
Results for the 3 Months Ended June 2009
Net Sales: 55,975 million yen
Net Income: 367 million yen
Results by Business Segment (millions of yen)
Code:Business Segment Net Sales Operating Income Digital Entertainment 24,601 1,547 Health & Fitness 21,438 23 Gaming & System 3,907 683 Other / Elimination 6,029 -1,253
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/eas-sell-in-vs-sell-thru-concerning-says-analyst/According to EA's fiscal announcement for the first quarter, the publisher sold 3.7 million units of The Sims 3 and 1.8 million of EA Sports Active for Wii. But according to Signal Hill analyst Todd Greenwald, these figures are sell-in numbers (meaning sold into retail) and the gap between the sell-in numbers and the sales reported by tracking firms like NPD is "concerning."
"While EAs Q1 sales of Sims 3 and many of its Wii titles were certainly impressive, we are concerned by the discrepancies between the sell-in numbers and the NPD sell-through numbers (which only capture US). For example, Sims 3 sell-through was about 820k units in June, vs. 3.7M units of sell-in. While Europe may have added 1M units, that still leaves a big gap. Similarly, EA Sports Active sold through 635k units in May and June, vs EAs sell-in of 1.8M units," he stated.
Greenwald also questioned the strength of the EA Sports business, pointing to current NCAA weakness as a "canary in [the] coal mine."
"Management acknowledged that initial sales of NCAA Football have been weaker than expected thus far. To us, this highlights a big potential weakness for EA over the balance of the year," he said. "Given the tough retail environment, weak sell-through, and sluggish hardware sales, we believe sales of 'catalog' content (i.e. sports, music, undifferentiated sequels, etc) are at significant risk. Titles that arent significantly different from a year ago are likely to suffer large YoY declines and will see price cuts quickly, in our opinion. Following the weakness of NCAA, we believe that Madden sales could be down at least 5% YoY, especially considering last years 20th anniversary comp, and we fear this could be followed by weak sales for Need for Speed, NBA Live, FIFA, and others."
speculawyer said:This guy wonders if EA may be stuffing the channel a little bit to boost their revenues:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/eas-sell-in-vs-sell-thru-concerning-says-analyst/
Results for the 3 Months Ended June 2009
Net Sales: 29,399 million yen
Net Income: -1,672 million yen (loss)
Results by Business Segment (millions of yen)
Code:Business Segment Net Sales Operating Income Games 8,512 -992 Amusement 12,037 76 Publication 3,820 1,138 Mobile Phone Content 2,660 1,164 Merchandising 2,370 1,130
Company Original Income Average Ex. Rate Income in US $
Nintendo ¥ 42,316,000,000 97.48587 $ 434,073,164
Activision Blizzard $ 195,000,000 1 $ 195,000,000
Capcom ¥ 2,230,000,000 97.48587 $ 22,875,110
Eizo Nanao ¥ 2,050,000,000 97.48587 $ 21,028,689
Takara Tomy ¥ 1,471,000,000 97.48587 $ 15,089,366
THQ $ 6,409,000 1 $ 6,409,000
Konami ¥ 367,000,000 97.48587 $ 3,764,648
Hudson ¥ 343,000,000 97.48587 $ 3,518,459
Koei Tecmo Hold. ¥ - 102,000,000 97.48587 $ - 1,046,306
Square Enix ¥ - 1,672,000,000 97.48587 $ - 17,151,204
Bandai Namco ¥ - 2,846,000,000 97.48587 $ - 29,193,975
Disney Interactive $ - 75,000,000 1 $ - 75,000,000
Sega Sammy ¥ - 10,200,000,000 97.48587 $ - 104,630,548
Microsoft EaDD $ - 130,000,000 1 $ - 130,000,000
Electronic Arts $ - 234,000,000 1 $ - 234,000,000
Sony ¥ - 39,734,000,000 97.48587 $ - 407,587,274
Nirolak said:It seems it's this time of year again: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377783
Microsoft EaDD seems to be back in the black again with a $312 million profit this quarter.
Though since their first quarter was rather bad it seems they're at $182 million profit for the year.
Where are you getting your data?Psychotext said:On the subject in general, it's a shame that I can't seem to find financial reports for Sony prior to 1998. Would have been nice to get their full set of data in there since the start of the Playstation business.
1996 -8.938
1997 57.045
1998 116.936
Psychotext said:Updated with Microsoft 1st Quarter 2010 FY earnings
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/fy10/earn_rel_q1_10.mspx
Updated with Nintendo / Sony 2nd Quarter 2010 FY earnings
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/09q2_sony.pdf
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2009/091029e.pdf
Code:Sony Nintendo Microsoft Total Y/E 1998 $902,811,090 $1,023,333,867 $1,926,144,957 Y/E 1999 $1,102,563,557 $1,301,350,000 $2,403,913,557 Y/E 2000 $722,738,949 $1,368,207,547 $2,090,946,497 Y/E 2001 -$449,776,290 $677,576,000 $227,799,710 Y/E 2002 $629,101,056 $895,872,180 -$1,135,000,000 $389,973,237 Y/E 2003 $935,569,253 $834,333,333 -$1,191,000,000 $578,902,586 Y/E 2004 $627,195,212 $993,161,303 -$1,337,000,000 $283,356,515 Y/E 2005 $419,888,799 $1,056,056,202 -$539,000,000 $936,945,001 Y/E 2006 $69,129,058 $774,478,055 -$1,339,000,000 -$495,392,887 Y/E 2007 -$1,970,923,859 $1,914,666,388 -$1,969,000,000 -$2,025,257,471 Y/E 2008 -$1,079,994,103 $4,322,637,887 $426,000,000 $3,668,643,783 Y/E 2009 -$577,207,240 $5,691,428,301 $169,000,000 $5,283,221,061 Y/E 10Q1 -$413,541,667 $420,843,750 $312,000,000 $319,302,083 Y/E 10Q2 -$653,333,333 $710,655,556 N/A N/A Total $264,220,482 $21,984,600,371 -$6,532,000,000 $15,659,498,630 Full Year Average $110,924,623 $1,737,758,422 -$1,001,857,143 $914,270,499 Profitable Years 8 12 2 10 Non Profitable Years 4 0 6 2 Average in Loss Year -$1,019,475,373 N/A -$1,251,666,667 -$1,260,325,179 Average in Profit Year $676,124,622 $1,737,758,422 $333,000,000 $1,389,625,094
Thanks. I have the 1998 data already, but I don't have the 1997 and 1996 data.Road said:Where are you getting your data?
Sonny's annual report for 1998 (page 73), has these operating income figures (billion yens) for the "game" segment:
Code:1996 -8.938 1997 57.045 1998 116.936
I see. I asked where you were getting because I didn't know if you had already seen those and discarded for some reason I wouldn't know.Psychotext said:Thanks. I have the 1998 data already, but I don't have the 1997 and 1996 data.
Ideally I'd like to try and find the quarterly reports for those years (it's how the rest of the data is done) so that I can get the most accurate (regarding currency fluctuations) figures.
Results for the 6 Months Ended September 2009 (1)
Net Sales: ¥154,395 million
Net Income: -¥9,554 million (loss)
Results by Business Segment (millions of yen)
Code:Segment Net Sales Operating Income Pachinko/Pachislot 68,453 10,897 Amusement Machine Sales 19,192 -737 Amusement Center Operations 28,948 223 Consumer Business 37,801 -8,193 Others 1,986 274
Video game software sales in the period (2):
Results for the 6 Months Ended September 2009
Net Sales: ¥113,914 million
Net Income: ¥2,232 million
Results by Business Segment (millions of yen)
Code:Segment Net Sales Operating Income Digital Entertainment 51,419 4,484 Health & Fitness 43,375 298 Gaming & System 8,896 2,215 Other and Eliminations 10,224 -2,386
Video game software sales in the period
Results for the 3 Months Ended September 2009
Net Sales: US$ 703 million
Net Income: US$ 15 million
Results by Business Segment (millions of dollars)
Code:Segment Net Sales Operating Income Activision 415 -43 Blizzard 286 116 Distribution 54 2
Video game software sales in the period
Captain Smoker said:You're right.
Microsoft Entertainment and Devices Division
Code:2009 2008 Percentage Change Revenue $1,189 $1,590 (25)% Operating loss $(130) $(171) 24%
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY09/earn_rel_q4_09.mspx
Ultimo hombre said:Sony's already $-1.05B with 2 quarters of earnings left to go.
Mmm... confusing. lolSir Fragula said:I'm sorry but is this read correctly? Operating Loss is negative $130m which means its positive right?
Sony Nintendo Microsoft Total
Y/E 1998 $902,811,090 $1,023,333,867 $1,926,144,957
Y/E 1999 $1,102,563,557 $1,301,350,000 $2,403,913,557
Y/E 2000 $722,738,949 $1,368,207,547 $2,090,946,497
Y/E 2001 -$449,776,290 $677,576,000 $227,799,710
Y/E 2002 $629,101,056 $895,872,180 -$1,135,000,000 $389,973,237
Y/E 2003 $935,569,253 $834,333,333 -$1,191,000,000 $578,902,586
Y/E 2004 $627,195,212 $993,161,303 -$1,337,000,000 $283,356,515
Y/E 2005 $419,888,799 $1,056,056,202 -$539,000,000 $936,945,001
Y/E 2006 $69,129,058 $774,478,055 -$1,339,000,000 -$495,392,887
Y/E 2007 -$1,970,923,859 $1,914,666,388 -$1,969,000,000 -$2,025,257,471
Y/E 2008 -$1,079,994,103 $4,322,637,887 $426,000,000 $3,668,643,783
Y/E 2009 -$664,313,787 $5,691,428,301 $169,000,000 $5,196,114,515
Y/E 10Q1 -$413,541,667 $420,843,750 $312,000,000 $319,302,083
Y/E 10Q2 -$653,333,333 $710,655,556 $375,000,000 $432,011,111
Y/E 10Q3 $210,629,750 $2,087,904,452 N/A N/A
Total
$387,078,407 $24,072,504,822 -$6,157,000,000 $16,004,049,028
Full Year Average
$103,665,745 $1,737,758,422 -$1,001,857,143 $914,270,499
Profitable Years
8 12 2 10
Non Profitable Years
4 0 6 2
Average in Loss Year
-$1,041,252,010 N/A -$1,251,666,667 -$1,260,325,179
Average in Profit Year
$676,124,622 $1,737,758,422 $333,000,000 $1,389,625,094
...and another:The years in the chart above refer to the financial years of each company, which do not align on a calendar basis.
Microsoft is one quarter behind Sony and Nintendo on that chart. They will be the first to report their 2010 calendar Q1 earnings (Jan - Mar), which they report as their 2010 Q3 financial figures. Nintendo and Sony just reported their 2010 calendar Q3 earnings (Oct - Dec), which they report as their 2010 Q3 financial figures.
...and another:These numbers are the operating income figures for all companies, rather than the net income.
As of FY 2010 Q1, Sony are now reporting the results for the re-organised division "Networked Products & Services" rather than the old method of reporting for the gaming division.
"Sony said it will combine its VAIO personal-computer, Walkman and PlayStation businesses in the Networked Products & Services Group to focus on creating gadgets that can work with each other and connect to the Internet."