Foliorum Viridum
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Ferarri should be shipping Massa back to Brazil and getting Perez in the car for China.
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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?
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Sleeplessnights
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I wasn't saying Perez will have the same luck as Giancarlo, just remembered him going there and let go as I was writing that.
brotkasten
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For the second week in a row I didn't get any bets correct either :lol
brotkasten
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ReadingRambo
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Y'all are some ice colds dudes.
brotkasten
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If a driver drags the team I root for down, I obviously don't want him there.
I'd be rolling in the points if that didn't happen.Yeah, poor lad who gets payed 14mil a year to get doubled by his teammate who just won a GP.
I feel sorry for him.
Myoclonic Jerk
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I know this was posted in the off-season thread.. so here it is again, it just cracks me up
I don't even like Ferrari and I want him gone or to improve.
Myoclonic Jerk
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thats the case with a lot of people. I despite Ferrari, but I want them to be utalising the full potential of their car, and Massa is not helping now.
He got 2 years of sympathy, time for him to bite the dust.
edit: kimi's interview after the race http://vimeo.com/39196318
Kimi is in Lebanon, they're launching the new Lotus there
courtesy of PF1 forum
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Missing Melkor as Bernie Ecclestone and Sauron as Jean Todt and Schumacher should be Tom Bombadil not Olorin.
NihonTiger90
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Goldrusher
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Massa is good, but not good enough (anymore) (for F1) (for Ferrari).
Just give the second car to...
Perez? Probably doesn't have enough experience yet for Ferrari. They always pick drivers with a couple years under their belt.
Bianchi? No experience at all.
Gutiérrez? No experience at all.
Fisichella? Ferrari's reserve drive, but has been out of F1 for 2 years already.
Trulli? Likely the best choice.
Heidfeld? Not a bad choice either, but is he better than Trulli?
Sutil? Probably the best available driver out there, but there's speculation he can't into certain countries anymore because of his conviction.
Just give the second car to...
Perez? Probably doesn't have enough experience yet for Ferrari. They always pick drivers with a couple years under their belt.
Bianchi? No experience at all.
Gutiérrez? No experience at all.
Fisichella? Ferrari's reserve drive, but has been out of F1 for 2 years already.
Trulli? Likely the best choice.
Heidfeld? Not a bad choice either, but is he better than Trulli?
Sutil? Probably the best available driver out there, but there's speculation he can't into certain countries anymore because of his conviction.
ReadingRambo
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I know it's super early but damn I hope Austin turns out to be a great track.
Wait, why are they giving stuff away for the race in Montreal? Shouldn't they do something for the race that will happen in their own city?
And I hope Austin turns out to be a good track as well. Need to see where the other grandstands are going to be setup though so I can decide on where I'll sit.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Isnt this over considering the event was at March 23rd?
Watched the race last night, been on media blackout.
The race was great. I was impressed by how many drivers finished considering the rain. I thought they all handled it better than I expected.
Highlights for me:
- +5 Verne for heroic effort on inters.
- tents on the grid, you could really tell the poor teams sitting in the rain. Ferrari even bungled assembling Massa's.
- bird strutting through the rain, awesome.
- Massa cutout earned as many points as real Massa did.
- McLaren needs some practice on pits. Is there a Gif if the incar release of the Hamilton stall, where he almost smashed into Massa double stacking with Alonso?
- Fantastic work by Perez.
Maldonado's unfortunes stiffed those of us with Williams and Maldonado on our f1racemanager teams. We dropped in the standings like a bomb. Although I made a couple of spots overall.
The race was great. I was impressed by how many drivers finished considering the rain. I thought they all handled it better than I expected.
Highlights for me:
- +5 Verne for heroic effort on inters.
- tents on the grid, you could really tell the poor teams sitting in the rain. Ferrari even bungled assembling Massa's.
- bird strutting through the rain, awesome.
- Massa cutout earned as many points as real Massa did.
- McLaren needs some practice on pits. Is there a Gif if the incar release of the Hamilton stall, where he almost smashed into Massa double stacking with Alonso?
- Fantastic work by Perez.
Maldonado's unfortunes stiffed those of us with Williams and Maldonado on our f1racemanager teams. We dropped in the standings like a bomb. Although I made a couple of spots overall.
compilation of Malaysia radio messages from the sky pit channel (42 minutes)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp...d-prix-pit-channel-team-radio-highlights_auto
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp...d-prix-pit-channel-team-radio-highlights_auto
Edmond Dantès
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We're actually second overall in the racemanager standings, we only finished 13th in Malaysia. We're still in strong contention for first position.
It also makes Maldonado a great buy.
Provided he actually finishes a race. I think I may hold Williams until I can swap for first, Macca, then RBR for chassis/engine respectively. Trying to figure out if a stopover with Lotus is worth it or not before I invest in the best choice later in the season. Is it sick that I'm thinking about writing an app to calculate risk outcomes and prices for race manager?
Sleeplessnights
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Fisichella back in F1 would be fantastic, Ferrari have been using him as a stunt man for their street shows.
brotkasten
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Fisco had his chance as replacement driver at Ferrari, iirc. He was pretty bad.
He may be a good buy but somewhat unreliable. And I had automated spreadsheets last year to run risks and rewards of various purchases.
I will wait until after the bonus question to see what I will change to, but I imagine Lotus/Williams will be a choice.
Yep. He was not very strong.
I don't think his skill can be judged on his previous time at Ferrari. It would take any driver a while to get up to speed if they were parachuted into a new car.
RomanticHeroX
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Fisi always seemed really overrated to me. He had more than a few chances and never shined with any of them.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Clearly someone at Ferrari has a bit of heart, and I actually think that's something that should be applauded, although that's not to say that they aren't in a very difficult situation at the moment.
To be honest, I think they'd be hard-pressed to get someone else in the car that's going to be doing a better job than Massa in the short term, so unless he gets even shitter, they might as well stick with him for the rest of the year and think long-term.
Ferrari's real mistake was committing to Massa so early on last season, as they could have picked up a decent replacement over the winter - who then would have had the benefit of testing and settling into the team.
To be honest, I think they'd be hard-pressed to get someone else in the car that's going to be doing a better job than Massa in the short term, so unless he gets even shitter, they might as well stick with him for the rest of the year and think long-term.
Ferrari's real mistake was committing to Massa so early on last season, as they could have picked up a decent replacement over the winter - who then would have had the benefit of testing and settling into the team.
I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
Perez drove a Sauber for more than 1 year and showed incredible talent especially in tyre management and you say he doesn't have enough experience but then you say Bianchi is a better option when his only experience with F1 is a couple of tests and the only talents he showed so far is losing races when pressured by a car behind him or crashing against a wall.
Bianchi is so ready to F1 that he destroyed the Force India while doing system checking in Jerez this winter.
brotkasten
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There's no real commitment in Formula 1. Every contract can be broken in one way or another.
Edmond Dantès
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Big fish small pond is very fitting for Fisi.
Great driving for smaller struggling teams, but not very capable at the top level. Lacking the mental fortitude needed to be a top tier driver at a one of the big teams. Bit like Frentzen in that regard.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
I don't know if Ferrari would seriously want to be ushering in Perez anytime soon, it might seem like a good idea now but could probably serve to unsettle them further. Particularly if Alonso does get a car capable of consistently giving him a chance to race for a win, I doubt he would deal well with another young upstart capable of taking him on, older or not Fernando wants to win. I would probably bet more on Webber, plus I would just rather Perez stay in a place where he can truly fine tune his skills than rush in and get dismantled.
brotkasten
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Perez needs to stay where he is right now. The Sauber is clearly quicker than the Ferrari and it's way too early to tell how good he really is. We saw Heidfeld and Fisicella win races and look how they turned out.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Well, at that stage of that race, on those tyres, in those conditions... yes. Otherwise, no.
Edmond Dantès
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Not to mention Ferrari's far superior rate of development. Sauber always lose ground as the season progresses and it'll be no different in 2012.
Nicky never won a race, you silly man!
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Kubica's sole win should really be Heidfeld's.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
A criminal record would rule him out of many countries. No visa, no race.
His career in F1 is over.
brotkasten
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Oh wow, that's true. Not sure why I thought of him. Probably because he's on my list of mediocre drivers with "great potential". He does hold some interesting records, though.
A short term replacement will not be any better than Massa due to the time they'd need to get up to speed in the car.
yeah, but they may feel some sponsor/media pressure if they don't 'do' something i guess.
Edmond Dantès
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Has a nice beard though.
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