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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?
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Psychotext
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Edmond Dantès;39465946 said:
I'm sorry to hear about your loss man.
My thoughts go out to you and your family.
Good God. I'm so sorry Psychotext.
Sorry for you loss Psychotext.
Thanks all, I really do appreciate it.
This weekend is going to be really hard, what with knowing we should have been there together enjoying it. I can sort of imagine what her reaction would have been to the noise. Still, the weather looks like it's going to be perfect, she loved the rain.
As much as it doesn't sit well with me, I'll be backing Alonso all the way for this race (and maybe even the season). She wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Still I wont argue if Vettel wins, what with her picture being on the car and all.
mclaren777
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If vettel is average than Webber is sub par. Based on webber's history that definitely isn't the case. So that means that Vettel is getting faster and has grown since his junior formulae days. He has won in sub par cars and spends more time at the track on practice days than any other driver on the grid. He might lack the raw seat of the pants talent of Hamilton but makes up for it in hard work and preparation.
brotkasten
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Maria has lost her right eye
Holy shit, that's is terrible. I never imagined it would be that bad.
Maria has lost her right eye
Thats shit, presume thats her racing finished
brotkasten
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I'd guess so, yes.
Maria has lost her right eye
Agh shit...
Fuck. So much for racing I would guess
If true then without a doubt. You can't drive a car competitively at high speed with no stereo vision.
Yes but in world of F1 where its so hard to get a drive this means that dream is finished
well, one eye really fucks with your perspective, no way in hell it would be safe for her to race open wheeled cars
brotkasten
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To be honest, I never thought she had a chance for a career in F1, she's already 32. But I want more women in this sport, even if it's "only" as test driver. And she could've been a great inspiration for others to join this sport.
Maria has lost her right eye
Terrible news. Yesterday news seemed so positive but today this and the "Critical but stable" are not so positive after all.
mclaren777
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It's what I feared that area near the guy's butt was her helmet.
Her head/helmet literally stopped the car.
Her head/helmet literally stopped the car.
The team has issued the following Medical Update on Maria De Villota at 16.00hrs BST today, 4 July.
Further to the accident at Duxford Airfield yesterday involving the Marussia F1 Team Test Driver, Maria De Villota, the Team can now provide a further update on Maria's medical condition.
Subsequent to yesterday's official statements from the Marussia F1 Team, the surgical team at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge embarked on a lengthy procedure to address the serious head and facial injuries sustained by Maria in the accident. The operation began yesterday afternoon and she was in theatre until this morning. Maria remains in a critical but stable condition.
John Booth, Team Principal of the Marussia F1 Team, with the consent and support of Maria's family, would like to give the following update, which provides as much detail as is possible at this time:
"Maria emerged from theatre at Addenbrooke's Hospital this morning after a lengthy operation to address the serious head and facial injuries she received in the accident at Duxford Airfield yesterday.
"We are grateful for the medical attention that Maria has been receiving and her family would like to thank the Neurological and Plastics surgical teams. However it is with great sadness that I must report that, due to the injuries she sustained, Maria has lost her right eye.
"Maria's care and the wellbeing of her family remain our priority at this time. Her family are at the hospital and we are doing everything possible to support them.
"We ask for everyone's patience and understanding with regard to updates on Maria's condition. We will provide further information when it is appropriate to do so and with consideration for her family.
"In the meantime, we would all like to take this opportunity to praise the emergency services at Duxford Airfield, who were on stand-by yesterday, as is usual procedure for a Formula One test.
"With regard to the accident, we have embarked on a very comprehensive analysis of what happened and this work continues for the moment.
"Finally, we have been overwhelmed by messages of support for Maria, her family and the Team and we would like to express our sincere gratitude for those."
It's what I feared that area near the guy's butt was her helmet.
Her head/helmet literally stopped the car.
Visor is up in that pic, if I'm seeing it right.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Terrible news, but she's alive and has her whole life ahead of her. So we can take solace from that, but if Alex Zanardi has taught us something, it's that the passion for racing can still drive a person to excel. I hope she can continue to do what she loves.
rockman zx
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All of this and the hard road ahead for her just in a straight line speed test, not a frikin race, a straight line speed test, so sad for her and his family .
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Myoclonic Jerk
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thats really terrible news. I thought she was stabilizing and worst that could happen is that her racing career is over.
Before jumping the guns and blaming the team and it incapability of providing a safer environment/car, did we get details of what caused that? and who's fault was it?
Someone needs to pay for this. This is not a 'racing incident'.
Before jumping the guns and blaming the team and it incapability of providing a safer environment/car, did we get details of what caused that? and who's fault was it?
Someone needs to pay for this. This is not a 'racing incident'.
Which fits with my picture.
So sad that this happened. They are just freak accidents where no one is at fault imo.
mclaren777
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I don't agree with that. Sometimes freak accidents just happen. Granted, the lift platform probably should have been fully lowered so somebody didn't hit their knee on it, but I sure don't want that person to faces criminal/civil charges for something like this.
Agree. I can imagine the person who left the lorry lift in that position is feeling absolutely terrible and guilty right now.
For once, I entirely agree with you. This was clearly a freak accident that ought to never have happened, but you cannot prepare for every eventuality.
Myoclonic Jerk
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If its a team fault, something like a faulty car or an unqualified safety manager, then I think she should press charges against them.
I don't think this could've happened with one of the big teams
No, they shouldn't.
Nope. Disagree.
The only time I would agree with this is EXTREME negligence, such as a team knowingly put a driver's life at danger - the circumstances here are clearly not extreme, and was a freak set of scenarios.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Well,we're talking about someone who lost her eye. If it was a case of negligence it should not get swept under the carpet.
Just a fortnight ago we were looking at a possibility for her to drive GP, now it's all over. It's very painful
Nothing is getting swept under the carpet ffs. She stalled the car, the anti-still kicked in and she crashed the car in the wrong place. It's an accident, it happens.
Blaming this one one person is fucking ridiculous and not going to solve anything.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Any liability would arise under UK Employment Laws; employer's liability, negligence, a standard duty of care, safe work place for example. Not my area of expertise though as I specialise in another area of law, so my insight is from what I remember of my degree years.
I wouldn't advocate legal action though, not until all the evidence is at hand. But Maria, her family and her lawyer(s) may feel the need to.
So you want people to pay for accidents? So when someone hits a mechanic on the pits, they should be arrested, right? How about Maldonado last weekend, should he pay also since he was negligent when he returned to the track and could have injured Hamilton?
This is a freaky accident that nobody could have predicted. If she wasn't inexperienced, if somebody instructed her about the antistall, if the truck wasn't there, if, if, if, if....
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
You'd be surprised at the petty things that have resulted in legal action been sought in this country. 'Ifs' are an opportunity for a lawyer to do his/her thing.
RukusProvider
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Freak accidents happen. In that, you can go from light to severe damage. The resultant damage does not and should not lead to legal action.
Myoclonic Jerk
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So we know exactly what happened? I never said one person should be blamed for this especially if it was the team's fault, unless its proven that its really a single person's mistake.
And just for your info, almost all sentences never solve anything, but it has to be done. Again, I'm saying it should not just be scrapped easily as a freak accident. There has to be a thorough investigation and not one that is done by the team itself
I think the issue is bigger than what it looks. Even the FiA should step in and start questioning the capability of these teams being in F1. Max made a big doodoo and left us suffering with the smell. They already put everyone's lives in danger every race weekend by fielding 5-6 seconds slower cars. We don't need this.
This should be a simple straightforward straight-line test. Accelerate, Brake, Turn, Do it again. Result? a poor girl loses her eye completely unnecessarily
Sorry if I'm being a bit emotional about this
Edmond Dantès;39502998 said:
I broke my neck & have a spinal cord injury. Life is never over and it's only what you make of it. I have designed my own mouth controller for video games, adapted a 1/5th scale R/C car to be controlled by my mouth with one joystick, etc etc
Have faith! But with limited vision I think anything outside of "celebrity" karting would be a stretch. I think she could/will have a great future as a driver coach, speaker etc.
Big teams also use trucks.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
What the FIA should ensure is that these straight line tests are mandated as thoroughly as the circuits themselves to prevent tragedies from happening, but this just seems beyond any regulations that could have made a difference.
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