brotkasten
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I can't wait to see the Ferrari sliding all over the place.
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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?
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Massa couldn't keep the car planted on this track in 2008, it's going to be a lot of fun now!
Foliorum Viridum
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I really hate that the BBC have stopped doing practice highlight videos. A small 3-5min vid of all the best times/crashes etc is what I want to see. 
I really hate that the BBC have stopped doing practice highlight videos. A small 3-5min vid of all the best times/crashes etc is what I want to see.
Was just about to post the same thing. I can't watch the SkyGo replay at work because there are already two devices on the account.
brotkasten
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Sutil at Ferrari? Oh wow. Sure, they need a proper mid-field driver as partner for Alonso, but that would be weird. Then again, and I know this is a bit hyperbolic, but Ferrari is already kind of a mid-field team.
Not with Alonso behind the wheel, he made a mid field team into a team behind red bull and mclaren. Not bad.
Sleeplessnights
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That's why they want a midfield driver. Doh!
What they need is a 2nd Alonso (Kubica?)to keep them in 3rd place.
brotkasten
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I'm not a fan of Alonso, but I'm amazed by his skill. It's incredible what he can do with that turd of a car and I'd kill puppies to see what he could do in a good Ferrari. Seeing him barely fighting off a Williams or a Mercedes was depressing.
I still don't get the hype around Robert.
Not everyone is able to see the light.
he is (was?) one of the most talented drivers out there, but people are kidding themselves, he will never drive an f1 car again
Myoclonic Jerk
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What doesn't make sense? Good drivers will attract sponsorship. which will make them more attractive for teams. Do you think NK would have gotten the Ferrari seat if he had the Santander backing? no!
Pay driver is a driver that doesn't deserve his seat if he didn't have the money. I hope this makes sense now?
True, when the sport was not as financially demanding as now a days. Not anymore. same goes to almost every sport now.
brotkasten
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by what criteria does a driver "deserve" a seat?
Alsonso is great driver no doubt and he brings money into the team.
NK is a not so great driver and he brings money into the team...
not THAT much difference to me in regards to who or what is a pay-driver
Because his accident prohibited him from moving up in the F1 world? A drivers talent isn't recognised by stats alone.
Thats probably true, but i still Beleive!
He will come back & be a triple world champion!
brotkasten
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In the end, that's all what's left after their career, stats and records. And that's why Vettel wants them all.
Myoclonic Jerk
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you have your opinion and I have mine. lets agree to disagree.
I really don't care if you support those teams thinking its good for the sport. But don't suggest that all people should support them for whatever reason
EDIT: sorry that was mclaren not you.
Foliorum Viridum
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The problem with Kubica is we'll never know. I really loved him in 2010 and thought he was going to be a big hit one day, but then he had his crash and let's be honest he stands zero chance of going back to F1.
So now I feel he's been elevated a bit above his status just because of what might have been, just like celebs who die young etc. We've been robbed of finding out and that's why he's brought up so much I feel.
He was definitely a great driver. Whether or not he had it in him to be more than that I'm not sure.
So now I feel he's been elevated a bit above his status just because of what might have been, just like celebs who die young etc. We've been robbed of finding out and that's why he's brought up so much I feel.
He was definitely a great driver. Whether or not he had it in him to be more than that I'm not sure.
Ummmmm, coulthard was in a Mclaren most of his life! A top running car, kubicka never has been....
Yes, but discussing stats from a driver whose career ended sooner than it would because of an accident really isn't really relevant.
brotkasten
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Edmond Dantès
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Enzo thought the same as you about the 'garagistas' and yet he was proven wrong by the likes of Cooper, Williams, Lotus and McLaren countless times. They put him in his place.
F1 should always be a mix between manufacturer and privateer teams and who's to say that the teams you're lambasting won't make progress up the grid eventually. They're not doing any worse than Minardi when they were trundling along at the back of the grid.
brotkasten
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I just love this! :lol
Can we now please, please fire his ass for sure?
You're just biased, because you want to see a German driver in a Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2012/3/13147.html
Can we now please, please fire his ass for sure?
You're just biased, because you want to see a German driver in a Ferrari.
Can they also bring a completely new driver?
Car can't be worse than what it is now, it's not salvageable.
brotkasten
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They're not that bad. Fifth place is bad for Ferrari, but overall still okay. But I feel this will turn into another 2011 season for them.
You're just biased, because you want to see a German driver in a Ferrari.
I despise Ferrari... so no.
but...but...they keep telling us its a good car & there are just a few issues that can be fixed!
when they fix everything it's a new car
It's time they get their shit together, after they had to design a new car instead of rely on the stuff from the Schumacher era they have been subtop.
Edmond Dantès
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They seem to be falling into old habits. The Ferrari before Jean Todt and co was... well, a far cry from the 'dream team'.
ReadingRambo
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I'm still fairly new to the sport but isn't it kind of pointless to put any stock into P1 and P2 due to differing fuel loads and tire choices between the teams?
keyboardcat
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what's the latest on the forecast for Qualifying and Race?
The lap times by themselves are meaningless.
But most teams use FP1 and 2 to prepare for the race setup. If you check in detail, when the cars made a long run, you can go by the average times to see what their race pace will be, and how the tyre degredation hits them.
Edmond Dantès
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Streams are probably you're best option.
ReadingRambo
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It just seems crazy to try and balance tire degradation with lightening fuel weight and to then try and come to any sort of conclusion based on it. I'm not knocking people here who do it as I can certainly understand. Just....seems really tough to get a clear picture until quali and the race obviously.
the weird thing is button is saying they are off pace on low fuel runs.
i think red bull wont be able to fight for red bull the first few races, but will be much closer to mclaren in the race.
cant wait for vettels first win this season, cant imagine mclaren dominating this season.
It sure needs a lot of guessing, but its doable.
Just take a single car, compare two long runs on different tyre types, compare the degradation of lap times between those two long runs.
Basically the same what the teams do to get a clear picture concerning their race strategies.
Psychotext
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I can. It's pretty much set up to happen, especially with how weak Ferrari are (and I can't see Lotus and Mercedes keeping pace over the whole season).
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