A) I didn't read much about this game in its long priducyuon. Was just gonna buy it on the strength of ico and sotc. B) I expected it to be like icon but yorda replaced by the creature. I didn't expect virtual pet management and training sessions, which he sometimes doesn't even listen to :/
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The Last Guardian: Review Thread
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A) I didn't read much about this game in its long priducyuon. Was just gonna buy it on the strength of ico and sotc. B) I expected it to be like icon but yorda replaced by the creature. I didn't expect virtual pet management and training sessions, which he sometimes doesn't even listen to :/
Man really? The control scheme for Wander was pretty damn basic and bare bones. I will say this again, they were not bad controls because you didn't like them. People like me weren't speed running the Colossi, taking advantadge of the physics engine and so on to do a lot of amazing things with bad controls. Quite the opposite as I felt the controls were wonderful once you figured them out. You could quite literally surf on the tops of Colossi as they were fighting and trying to shake you off to save your grip meter.
After more than 10 years people are expecting unrealistic 10's across the board. You know I don't think we will see anything like the Last Guardian or FFXV again anytime soon. The fact that those games exist is a miracle.
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
Wat. Please tell me this is a fucking joke.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Can't wait
The more negative reviews seem to be that it controls like a Team ICO game, which is far from a negative for me. A lot of people take issue with SOTC's controls but I always found it a pleasure to play
The more negative reviews seem to be that it controls like a Team ICO game, which is far from a negative for me. A lot of people take issue with SOTC's controls but I always found it a pleasure to play
More_Badass
Member
That's basically what it is, down to the interconnected level design of Ico's castle
Unknown?
Member
And that isn't most people's experiences but the guy I specifically quoted was letting reviews influence him despite most people liking it. He just assumed the bad reviews were more weighty than the vast majority of good. What did it need a 90 MC score for people to try it? For fucks sake their previous games wouldn't even get an 80 MC score in this day and age yet we have fans of those not even trying this new one.
It is
Great scores. Much better than I thought.
This does make sense to a certain extent. Right? You follow most reviewers that you can relate to. The ones that have share the same or at least a few things in common. I know i do look for people that can give me impressions that i can trust because they look for the same things i look for in games.
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
I would not call The Last Guardian AAA. It a niche genre, a puzzle genre that doesn't appeal to the mainstream gaming community. Previous games success dont have anything to do about it.
GusZamboni
Member
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcement.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
Really? I consider my self as a "AAA brainless", and have played ico and sotc in ps2 era, and i dont see my self sugesting those games to someone who like a "plataform game" but sure i would to any one who liked inside.
Maybe its just my perception that this game doesnt look like a AAA, but i cannot recomend it to everyone, just a tiny small base of friends would enjoy it
GwyndolinCinder
Member
I have to wait until Friday because UK.
I'm suppose to wait till next friday, to wait for my girlfriend to get home.
I'm scared of spoilers and my willpower not to play.
After reading the impressions I cancelled my preorder, the recurring concerns about the frustration in many of the reviews make me wary enough to borrow from the library first and then potentially pick it up when it goes on sale. With FFXV already here and Dead Rising 4 on the way there is already enough stuff to play.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
Huh? No Man's Sky, even with the talk show appearances, wasn't a huge AAA game. As for the same marketing push, get back to me when we see Ueda sitting down to chat with Colbert and Conan about his new game. It's a puzzle platformer, that's pretty fucking niche.
*looks at tag*
Never mind.
Yeah but unfortunately the beast training aspect just doesn't sound anything like fun to me and it's seemingly a key component. Each to their own!
GrandHarrier
Member
I'm surprised the terrible framerate doesn't get it knocked more. It looks like a slideshow at times on OG PS4. Turned into a hard pass for me.
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
I don't think you know what niche means lol
Omnistalgic
Member
This ain't our old forum man...This is GAF
anything below a 90 is not living up to the hype.
Little Monser
Banned
So this game is an emotional triumph but a mechanical mess? As expected tbh, hardly surprised
A typical Sony Exclusive TEA
A typical Sony Exclusive TEA
Anything under 90 should have the developers lined up and shot then burn their studio to the ground and salt the earth afterwards. Only the best for NeoGAF.
Ooooh, that gets me excited. The design of the castle is one of my favorite aspects of Ico.
Personal preference i guess. I loved SOTC but the controls were not ideal even when it was released but I didn't harp on them because there was not a real baseline at the time I played the game. But now in 2016 going back to the controls would bug me too much.
Was ICO even a success on release? I remember little marketing bar a demo disc.
Unknown?
Member
FFXV didn't get as many perfect scores. Lol Guess FFXV had more concerns to me.
In all seriousness. Don't get this. I guess people really do only care about low scores and not praise.
Spieler Eins
Member
I can go back playing Banjo Kazooie just fine, which I did, excluding one stage (which has also always been frustrating junk back in the day). Now things like the final platforming section in ICO on the other hand? Borderline unplayable and never not frustrating to begin with.
I also don't even hate the games, but if you think some of their jank (and now TLG's apparently) was just ,,normal for its time", you remember wrong.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
And then people will complain when the industry grows stale.
It is
It's mine come Thursday!
I played it two weeks ago and had no problems, but to each his own
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
Yeah no. No it isn't.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, man, I miss that forum and the friendships I built there.
I beat that section on my first try about 6 months ago on my play through on the remaster. It had been years since I had played it before that. The only control issues I had with Ico were usually the fighting mechanics with the shadow monsters. The platforming was smooth as butter for me.
cryptosporidium
Member
relax, im just waiting it out to see if the game is indeed great. With all the divisiveness in the reviews Im skeptical as Ive never played one of the developers games. So I ordered SOTC and will play that before I buy TLG. That is, if my cancellation actuallys occurs
More_Badass
Member
FFXV at 84 MC,
TLG at 83 MC.
Lol, these two games shared a very similar fate.
10 years
in the making.
Originally for PS3.
Came out one week apart from each other.
And both from the Japan.
Looking forward to TLG after I finish FFXV! I planned on getting both regardless of scores anyways.
TLG at 83 MC.
Lol, these two games shared a very similar fate.
10 years
not
Originally for PS3.
Came out one week apart from each other.
And both from the Japan.
Looking forward to TLG after I finish FFXV! I planned on getting both regardless of scores anyways.
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
Never change, GAF.
Never seems to sully their experiences with the Bethesda games ;D
Agreed. I really like this quote
Most AAA games have one gameplay goal and that is to make the player feel cool and powerful; all other human emotions these games try to elicit are relegated to cut scenes or "conversations". It's nice to have at least one expensive game that tries to do more with gameplay.
More importantly though, what number did Kevin give it?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
First time I heard that Team ICO games are a buggy mess and poorly animated.
The primary difference is that, unlike Bethesda, Team ICO doesn't have any jank. They just have an artistic direction that they will stick with, even if it is divisive. The people making the new Dead Rising should have taken a page from their book.
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In what world is The Last Guardian "niche"? With the critically acclaimed Ico and SOTC as part of this "series", they've been building hype for TLG for YEARS. They've given this the same marketing push that they gave No Man's Sky! Even the delays were huge deals that required special announcements.
The Last Guardian is as AAA as it gets.
There are two things that I hate : people who uses laughing smiley that adds nothing to the conversation and are pulled straight out of gamefaqs, and when these sames people speaks nonsense and think they are the rational ones.
so divisive /s
That graph really drives home my point. You'd think with all the negativity in this thread that the game was doing so poorly in reviews.
Runs, on average, between 20 - 30 fps on PS4, locked 30 fps on Pro at 1080p, and between 25 - 30 fps on Pro at 4k (1900p).
Reviews have all mentioned the technical struggles.
thekiddfran
Member
Everyone buy this game. I want Sony to keep making these types of games
Some people don't look at individual scores and just focus on the average. It's not the best way to go about it, imo, but it's the way things are.