I don't want to support Alt Right trash. End of story.
Me: hey, maybe he's telling the truth and the game isn't about that any more. Let's wait and see.
Response: You're a moron. Stop being a piece of shit.
That's acceptable to you?
Point out those responses, please.
Well, I haven't played the game. How's it like in the future? Trump impeached yet?LOL @ the posts ITT saying "wait a sec guys he's just targeting the bad, extremist feminists."
How does it feel to be that naïve?
Well, I haven't played the game. How's it like in the future? Trump impeached yet?
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So are we now saying that we only want fiction that we can agree with? I personally dont agree with the idea of the game but I simply wouldnt buy it, as I imagine many in here will do the same.
What seems over the top is the constant vilifying of those that are comfortable enough to purchase it, or dont care enough to let it bother them. The holier than thou attitude is unnecessary. If you dont like it then dont support it but constantly ganging up on posters who think otherwise is pointless. There are people in here taking it personal that people are excited for a game that they themselves disagree with. Live and let live and all that.
Still waiting for you to point these posts out.
I think you'll be waiting on this forever. I'm also waiting for a simple apology for his BS.
You know, economists and social scientists (good ones at least) are interested in exploring the unintended consequences of policy or other types of social interventions. What this means is that they might look at a policy with morally good aims that does people a lot of good and ask if there are also negative consequences. They do so not to undermine the policy but to try to figure out whether it can be altered to maintain the benefits while reducing the unintended costs.
A world where "feminism won" whatever that really means would be a better world than we have now but it would have consequences beyond "men and women are equal now" because things are complicated. When social dynamics change people are affected positively and negatively and although it might be a net moral benefit there is nothing inherently wrong with exploring the possible downsides. You would have to in order to improve things. I might be being extremely charitable to Soret in thinking that this was what he was trying to get across in the Vice interview. This is, again, why I am waiting to read criticism of the final game before I decide whether I'm interested in playing it and what the moral ramifications of doing so might be.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
- Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
- Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
- Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
The meme is that oh this is cool I like this (Milkshake duck, The Last Night), but then you immediately find out it supports oppressive or worse views (duck is a Nazi, game is based around the idea of Feminism ruining the world)
Popular thing/person on the internet is discovered to be made by/be a person with reprehensible views.
It's depressingly common.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
What a load of bull shit.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
One of the best looking games to come out if E3 and Ill be picking it up for sure.
Great argument. Truly insightful.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
Giving yourself away with the bolded. Just a tip.
Giving myself away as...being open to alternative viewpoints?
I'm okay with that.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
There is a difference between enjoying art from a problematic artist and enjoying art which is a reflection of the views of the problematic artist.
I recognize your username. Aren't you a well known social conservative from GameFAQS or am I thinking of someone else?
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
Wait do echo chambers only exist when they oppose your viewpoint? Or are you in your own echo chamber too, not listening to those of us that have differing viewpoints to you?Giving myself away as...being open to alternative viewpoints?
I'm okay with that.
We know next to nothing about the content of this game. I guess I'd argue for waiting to see what the game actually is before writing it off. And lol, no I've never posted on GameFAQS.
I honestly could not care less about the dev's politics.
Ender's Game is still a classic even though Orson Scott Card is a homophobe.
Chinatown is still a masterpiece even though Roman Polanski is a rapist.
Revolver is still groundbreaking even though John Lennon beat up women.
Artists are people. They're fucked up and imperfect. Often, that's why they make great art. Boycotting something because you disagree with the creators' politics is great way to seal yourself in a hermetically sealed bubble. But then again, a safe little echo chamber is probably what some of you want.
We know next to nothing about the content of this game. I guess I'd argue for waiting to see what the game actually is before writing it off. And lol, no I've never posted on GameFAQS.
Giving myself away as...being open to alternative viewpoints?
I'm okay with that.
Here's the deal. If this game is literally about how feminism was the primary cause of the world falling apart, everything I said is moot and the guy is a dipshit and his game will be garbage.Your post is beautiful and great. HONESTLY! But you are forgetting one thing. He said feminism winning leads to dystopia.
Dystopia: A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia, kakotopia, or simply anti-utopia) is a community or society that is undesirable or frightening.
This is a huge problem.
Ender's Game isn't about homosexuality being bad
Chinatown isn't about rape being okay
Revolver isn't about how great it is to beat up women
Try again
Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but how do we know what this game is about? The most I've seen are some very vague comments about feminism and dystopia from the creator. Sounds a little weird and possibly offensive, but the dude obviously has a vision, so I'm willing to see where it goes. It's the prejudging that I don't understand.
Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but how do we know what this game is about? The most I've seen are some very vague comments about feminism and dystopia from the creator. Sounds a little weird and possibly offensive, but the dude obviously has a vision, so I'm willing to see where it goes. It's the prejudging that I don't understand.
The. Difference. Is. The. Message. Of. The. Game. Is. Feminism. Is. Objectively. Evil. And. Would. Lead. To. Dystopia.
He has said -- in very clear terms -- that this game is a product of GamerGate.
He has publicly expressed a desire to have "Vivian James" in his game.
He regularly Likes GamerGate and Alt-right posts on Twitter.
This is a narrative game. The narrative, the themes, the message is the game. This isn't a matter of separating art from the artist. This game has a purpose, an objective. It is to disseminate hateful, vicious, regressive ideas in the form of narrative fiction.
The only way you're okay with that is if you are okay with the ideas GamerGate sought to spread. Full stop.
The. Difference. Is. The. Message. Of. The. Game. Is. Feminism. Is. Objectively. Evil. And. Would. Lead. To. Dystopia.
He has said -- in very clear terms -- that this game is a product of GamerGate.
He has publicly expressed a desire to have "Vivian James" in his game.
He regularly Likes GamerGate and Alt-right posts on Twitter.
This is a narrative game. The narrative, the themes, the message is the game. This isn't a matter of separating art from the artist. This game has a purpose, an objective. It is to disseminate hateful, vicious, regressive ideas in the form of narrative fiction.
The only way you're okay with that is if you are okay with the ideas GamerGate sought to spread. Full stop.
I mean, it ain't looking goodHere's the deal. If this game is literally about how feminism was the primary cause of the world falling apart, everything I said is moot and the guy is a dipshit and his game will be garbage.
If, and I think this is more likely the case, the setting is a dystopia in which a number of significant social changes have occurred, only one of which has to do with gender dynamics, then I will reserve judgment based on how it is actually handled, what the game has to say about it, and whether it simply raises questions or takes sides in a clumsy and stupid way.
I doubt that a game will be able to capture all of this stuff in a sophisticated way, but that's a separate issue from any possible political agenda.
Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but how do we know what this game is about? The most I've seen are some very vague comments about feminism and dystopia from the creator. Sounds a little weird and possibly offensive, but the dude obviously has a vision, so I'm willing to see where it goes. It's the prejudging that I don't understand.
And yet none of this can be derived from the trailer or his recent interview. So simply as a matter of curiosity I want to know what this game actually has in it.I mean, it ain't looking good
And yet none of this can be derived from the trailer or his recent interview. So simply as a matter of curiosity I want to know what this game actually has in it.
The dude said some stupid shit for sure. That point has been made.
Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but how do we know what this game is about? The most I've seen are some very vague comments about feminism and dystopia from the creator. Sounds a little weird and possibly offensive, but the dude obviously has a vision, so I'm willing to see where it goes. It's the prejudging that I don't understand.