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The loss of Obamacare would be like a death sentence but theyd vote for Trump again
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On the one hand, your husband might die, but sometimes God causes miracles to happen.
On the other hand, the country might be destroyed by gay trans communists who want to ruin the manufacturing and coal industries because they believe in a Chinese hoax and who want to give all the other jobs to Mexicans because they want to commit White Genocide. They also run a child prostitution ring out of a pizza shop and intend on taking over the world and wiping out Christianity through Muslim immigration and a one world government begun with the United Nations. And they hate cops!
Choose wisely.
The second sentence in the article. It's not letting me copy it on mobile but it's there.
Nothing directly from the two though.
It's more and more obvious to me every day that the reason Tump is president is because voters really don't even know anything at all.
It's kind of nice though, because honestly, before Trump started his yuuuuge rise, I didn't know much about politics. I just hated him because he seemed like an asshole, and now I've gotten super into politics and try to become more educated about it every day.
It's blatantly obvious to me that most republicans live in a different world than everyone else, so I can understand where they're coming from kind of (not to say it's right, they can all go fuck themselves imo). The problem is that most people know fuck all about politics, and they just vote for whoever they like more based on the 30 seconds of soundbites they hear a couple of times a week.
I'm drunk and rambling, but basically I'm not teling GAF anything it doesn't already know, I just started a new job though and overheard :
Guy 1: you think trump will get impeached?
Guy 2: well what the hell would he get impeached for?
Me: I mean no, even if he murdered a toddler in front of a bunch of cameras they would spin it that the toddler was a terrorist and he was really saving the country and all of our jobs or something. All the Russia shit is pretty damning though.
Guy 1: well sure he might be bought out by Russia, but if we had Hillary instead it'd be the same thing, except instead of Russia the Towel Heads would be writing the checks.
I just decided to not talk about politics at work anymore.
It's kind of nice though, because honestly, before Trump started his yuuuuge rise, I didn't know much about politics. I just hated him because he seemed like an asshole, and now I've gotten super into politics and try to become more educated about it every day.
It's blatantly obvious to me that most republicans live in a different world than everyone else, so I can understand where they're coming from kind of (not to say it's right, they can all go fuck themselves imo). The problem is that most people know fuck all about politics, and they just vote for whoever they like more based on the 30 seconds of soundbites they hear a couple of times a week.
I'm drunk and rambling, but basically I'm not teling GAF anything it doesn't already know, I just started a new job though and overheard :
Guy 1: you think trump will get impeached?
Guy 2: well what the hell would he get impeached for?
Me: I mean no, even if he murdered a toddler in front of a bunch of cameras they would spin it that the toddler was a terrorist and he was really saving the country and all of our jobs or something. All the Russia shit is pretty damning though.
Guy 1: well sure he might be bought out by Russia, but if we had Hillary instead it'd be the same thing, except instead of Russia the Towel Heads would be writing the checks.
I just decided to not talk about politics at work anymore.
water_wendi
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Yeah i edited my post for clarity. Is there a video of this?
My title was condensing the actual title of the article though as I as only allowed limited characters
All of this shit goes back to Goldwater.
As for the original question: A lot of Trump voters voted on the basis of wanting to hurt their political opponents so they actually support policies that will hurt them as long as it hurts someone they don't like or view as undeserving (liberals, LBBTQ, minorities) more. A literal race to the bottom where they will cheer the fire that is about to burn down their house as long as it burns down the house of someone they hate first.
Sometimes self-preservation isn't factored highly enough in some decisions. There wouldn't be suicide bombers, opiate addicts, republicans, soldiers, and suicides if it played a part in every decision.
LegendofJoe
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A lot of economic research is based on this assumption, and yeah you're spot on about it being fundamentally flawed.
Even if this was actual facts I would still go with the option that keeps my spouse alive...maybe I am the bad one?
water_wendi
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Nothing on you and i didnt mean to come across like that if thats how it appeared. i just couldnt find anything in the article and was expecting a video of the "Tickled plum to death" interview. Was expecting another "i voted under the influence"
yanipheonu
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Saw a good documentary that essentially criticised that main point. They tied the reoccurring financial crises like the Great Depression and the Housing Crisis to that troubled assumption.
The masses pretty clearly cannot be relied on to stop going in particular economic direction before things go bad. We've failed too many times.
Man Called Aerodynamics
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Blue lives matter, liberals coming to take Christmas away, etc.
Their fake news and conspiracy theories are more important to them than their own health.
Their fake news and conspiracy theories are more important to them than their own health.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Trump voters are idiots, or at best made a very stupid decision.
Case closed, Johnson.
Case closed, Johnson.
What the fuck?
Unknown One
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Some people are too stupid to comprehend.
Poor GRIMES
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it always seems to come back to racism huh
I feel the biggest answer to this is the brainwashing power of Fox News, pundits and the echo chamber people put themselves in once indoctrined to these outlets. People are going to jump immediately to racism and I wouldn't argue against that but I feel theres an even bigger picture that needs to be looked at. Racism may be a catalyst for this for some or a lot of these people. It's absolutely scary though how people listen to these pundits and Fox News and just mindlessly regurgitate the rhetoric they hear. I'm sure there are people that hate Obama because he was black, absolutely no question. Fox and the pundits have created a hatred of all things liberal though, look at the hatred for Hillary and Clintons. It could have been Clintoncare and Fox news still would have had the masses frothing with mindless hatred for it for no reason other than it was a liberal Dem policy. The ground work for fascism was right here in America all along and working its magic but it was ignored for too long. I honestly don't even know how you begin to fight against it, not seeing the stranglehold and insane hold it has over a large group of the population.
Ninja Scooter
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They hate black/brown people and foreigners more than they love living. It's pretty damn pathetic.
Yekshemesh
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NullPointer
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Article in OP said:
Yeah. And maybe next time the Republicans will consider giving you a pony and a blowjob every Thursday as well. Idiots.
Personally, I'm rooting for the Republicans to introduce something better. Premiums in my state have risen by over 60%. No one can afford it, so providers have slowly been dropping out. First it was BCBS followed by Cigna. All that's left is Humana, who already gave a deadline for when they are out. That leaves us with nothing. We are not the only state with this issue, no matter how many times you turn your cheek. The ACA will implode. Something has to change.
LegendofJoe
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Mankind in general is not rational (a minority are) so the sooner we stop pretending that we are the better.
Yekshemesh
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You're "rooting" for them to introduce something better? Have you been living under a rock the last week? Republicans have had 7 years to offer a better replacement, they now control the Senate, Congress and the Presidency and they still couldn't offer anything better.
You saw the Republican alternative. Cuts in healthcare, cuts in health research and millions losing health insurance coverage.
And the sole reason the latter did not go trough was that didn't go far enough for the Freedom Caucus.
Good luck with that!
The Republicans don't have anything better. They just want the ACA to implode to stick it to Obama and the Democrats.
If Republicans had something better, we'd have seen it by now.
Ninja Scooter
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Everything you are describing is happening because of healthcare being treated like a commodity and market greed being encouraged. You really think the GOP, the party of the 1%, gives two fucks about improving that?
Paul Ryan has been talking shit for ages. I'm not surprised they have nothing, but that doesn't mean I want them to fail so the ACA can implode and screw a lot of people over, like my state. There is nothing wrong with me hoping it happens.
These people are unable to separate their personal identity from their political identity. For them, it's like they're literally betraying themselves by voting for anything other than their party of choice, regardless of what their party will do.
That kind of loyalty is really impressive when you think about it.
That shit is unreal
I'm aware of that, but I'm not going to stop hoping for the best outcome. That would be a terrible way to live.
OpinionatedCyborg
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I don't normally quote Oprah Winfrey, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sWsn1Q8lk
PastorOfMuppets
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So these are the noble, salt of the Earth white working class that we should be striving to reach across the aisle for right?
People who didn't vote for Trump are going to die as well.
7 years of opposing ACA and than have nothing to show for it, while the only plan would have ended with premiums skyrocketing and millions losing health insurance coverage. And again, the sole reason that did not go trough was that didn't go far enough for the Freedom Caucus.
And you are trying to pin that only on Paul Ryan? Are you okay?
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Are you one of the persons from the article? This is naivity to the point of active selfharm.
At least brown people will suffer too!!
They voted to lose their Obamacare by voting for a man who specifically told them he would take it away, and evidently they would vote for him again. These people aren't idiots who were conned - they knew that losing their Obamacare meant that they and the people around them would suffer. They just didn't care that much. Their hatred of others and their apathy towards even close family and friends outweighs their desire to live.
At this point, the only thing that can be done for them is to protect the healthcare systems that keep them alive, because if those systems fail even the people who don't vote to kill themselves and everyone around them will suffer, too.
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At this point, the only thing that can be done for them is to protect the healthcare systems that keep them alive, because if those systems fail even the people who don't vote to kill themselves and everyone around them will suffer, too.
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People don't know shit, and for this reason, they believe any person in ascribed authority is an expert. Triply so if they're rich, hence the rise of alternative facts. "If he's smart, he knows what he's doing" is an answer I consistently hear, and of course it matches the ideals and memes of the culture: if you're poor, you're just dumb and undeserving, after all. A Law of Attraction on delusions.
What's most unfortunate is the GOP depends and literally preys on the precarity and intellectual ineptitude of others. This is a party of sociopaths.
What's most unfortunate is the GOP depends and literally preys on the precarity and intellectual ineptitude of others. This is a party of sociopaths.
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Chie Satonaka
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Yes. It's really, really, really, really important.
And don't call them racist, or they'll be even more likely to vote for the party who wants to take away their health care and sentence their loved ones to death.
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I'm just imagining how the last scene in this movie plays out: An older man, denied of the health care he needs by Republican politicians is on his death bed, his family surrounding him in tears. They all hold hands and listen carefully for his final words in his last moments.
Weakly, he croaks out the following:
"At least i didn't die a socialist. Also, I hate brown people. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRU--"
*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
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