Spottiettiedop
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It's a game changer in my eyes because I can see other games mimicking this formula. And to the OP and anyone else what is the last evolutionary game in your opinion
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Titanfall Beta Players: Is "Revolutionary" and "Game Changer" accurate?
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Duxxy3
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If only that were true.
Players care about leaderboards, and so far the people on top of the leaderboard are those killing tons of AI.
Because of bots and because there is little player versus player combat.
Do we have a number for gangbusters? How much will it sell on 360? On PC? On XBO? What would you consider a success that warrants "next step in mp gaming" copycats? How many millions?
I think the issue amongst some is there has been no objective standard for where this game should be sales-wise to determine the scale of its success for these types of discussions.
jacksepticeye
Member
People go down incredibly fast
The difficulty in a multiplayer shooter is surely going to depend on how good the opposing team are?
Also people are really not understanding the role bots play in this game. They are a tool to be used to gain quick access to a titan, nothing more.
Because titanfall is the one that's going to sell gangbusters.
Askherserenity
Member
Not at all. It's super fun. But it kinda feels like it'll get boring quick. Unless they have something planned in the actual game that I don't know about.
Boombloxer
Member
Not quite--it's accessible and fun, but everyone basically has the same kill streak, and that creates more improvisation. Shooting mechanics are also a bit different, but not by much.
Feels great and is a lot of fun.
Impeccable
Member
As an outsider, what formula?
EL CUCO
Member
You may need to watch this video. The grunts are a threat to their own team if anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24weIQdyBpw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Guy goes the whole game just running around kicking grunts.
As I said just a few posts above yours, what is your numerical standard for 'gangbusters'?
Duxxy3
Member
I think Destiny will grab the Halo market this generation. Some of that depends on the campaign though.
Not every game is trying to be a COD killer.
Nyteshade517
Member
At the end if the day all that matters is if the player has a good time with it...I did
I honestly enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. I played a handful of Attrition matches and had a blast. Now it's time for me to decide on some things as far as pre-ordering.
I honestly enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. I played a handful of Attrition matches and had a blast. Now it's time for me to decide on some things as far as pre-ordering.
Issue with Destiny is how unbalanced multiplayer is going to be, since that was a big part of Halo's appeal. The stuff they said and the disparaging remarks they made about gamers who care about balance suggests to me it's not a concern, and that's a big problem if they intend to have staying power in that regard. Of course these days unbalanced competitive FPS are practically the name of the day (thanks perks and challenges!), so what do I know!
I do think it'll sell quite well, but I don't think it'll grab the Halo market per say.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Halo fans will flock to Destiny as it'll likely offer a slower and more calculated FPS, while CoD fans will flock to Titanfall because it offers simplistic and fast-paced gameplay. Both are/will be fun but I see myself playing Destiny. Titanfall's parkour mechanic has TONS of potential though.
Since first playing the beta I have to say i'm not exactly hyped about going back to BF 4, my current go-to (since nobody plays halo 3 anymore). This makes it feel a little outdated to me, whether that makes it game changer i'm not sure.
The best thing about this game imo is the movement and fluidity of the play, god damn i love double jumps. The worst thing .. the bots drawing my attention from opposition pilots. However this is a beta, in the final build i am hopeful for some more focus towards player-on-player combat, that is where the replay-ability comes from, for me anyway.
Im having a good old time so far, this game is the shit! Here is an unused pc beta code, enjoy:
8P3B-UGPG-T4EB-2BPP-VBPN
The best thing about this game imo is the movement and fluidity of the play, god damn i love double jumps. The worst thing .. the bots drawing my attention from opposition pilots. However this is a beta, in the final build i am hopeful for some more focus towards player-on-player combat, that is where the replay-ability comes from, for me anyway.
Im having a good old time so far, this game is the shit! Here is an unused pc beta code, enjoy:
8P3B-UGPG-T4EB-2BPP-VBPN
DryvBy
Member
Battlefield 4: The Levolutionary Game
And I really can't answer this. I don't think this genre has improved much in years. Battlefield 2 might be the biggest jump for me just because of the stats system. Outside of that, we just reskin the same gameplay.
Well, the basis of the game seems to have been designed by combining aspects from the two really popular types of multiplayer game right now. Team-based low TTK military shooter with level grinding, and MOBAs. I don't know if I'd call it revolutionary but it's fun, accessible and reasonable to assume it'll be somewhat popular. I don't want to say they just went and said 'ok let's combine this popular shit and market the hell out of it, instant success' but it is pretty funny.
Its biggest strength IMO is that it makes badass and memorable moments happen on a regular basis. I mean it's not hard to believe that within an hour of playing the game someone could master most of the aspects of it and feel like they're kicking all kinds of ass, riding on enemy titans and dropping giant robots on top of people's heads. The traversal feels completely natural, you don't even need to think about it and the levels are designed pretty well for it. A far cry from the jankiness of, say, warframe.
I do think they went a little too far in terms of making it accessible, I don't play COD but you die fucking instantly in this game and it's off-putting at first. Also, that lockon pistol is the dumbest thing ever, the amped version is like a shotgun you don't even have to aim. It needs to be toned down a lot IMO.
Anyways, thankfully for people like me who hate low TTK there's titans. Unless I get ambushed immediately I usually live through at least two cycles of damage core before losing my mech. I'd like to see a graph of my death rates in the average game, I tend to be very aggressive with killing bots and shotgunning players early game because I REALLY want my titan ASAP but then I go the rest of the match playing it safe in my robot.
But yeah, if this game came out tomorrow and was 30-40 bucks I'd be all over it. But I don't see this holding my interest terribly long and it doesn't have a chance against Dark Souls 2 in terms of getting my attention. And as much as I'm sure people will disagree I do think this game needs a singleplayer or at least some co-op modes. This is a game where you're never standing still ever, shit's exploding and moving all the time. It'd be nice for some modes with a bit of a slower pace to wind down.
To be honest I'm not sure this game would be getting this much attention if not for the huge marketing machine behind it, but it is a lot of fun and worth a try especially if you're in its target audience. Just not sure it's worth 60 bucks day one unless you know you won't get bored of it. I mean, matches are fun and hectic, but they're already getting repetitive and I'm not sure if more maps and modes would fix that. Maybe it's just me, I haven't really gotten into a multiplayer shooter in a long time.
Its biggest strength IMO is that it makes badass and memorable moments happen on a regular basis. I mean it's not hard to believe that within an hour of playing the game someone could master most of the aspects of it and feel like they're kicking all kinds of ass, riding on enemy titans and dropping giant robots on top of people's heads. The traversal feels completely natural, you don't even need to think about it and the levels are designed pretty well for it. A far cry from the jankiness of, say, warframe.
I do think they went a little too far in terms of making it accessible, I don't play COD but you die fucking instantly in this game and it's off-putting at first. Also, that lockon pistol is the dumbest thing ever, the amped version is like a shotgun you don't even have to aim. It needs to be toned down a lot IMO.
Anyways, thankfully for people like me who hate low TTK there's titans. Unless I get ambushed immediately I usually live through at least two cycles of damage core before losing my mech. I'd like to see a graph of my death rates in the average game, I tend to be very aggressive with killing bots and shotgunning players early game because I REALLY want my titan ASAP but then I go the rest of the match playing it safe in my robot.
But yeah, if this game came out tomorrow and was 30-40 bucks I'd be all over it. But I don't see this holding my interest terribly long and it doesn't have a chance against Dark Souls 2 in terms of getting my attention. And as much as I'm sure people will disagree I do think this game needs a singleplayer or at least some co-op modes. This is a game where you're never standing still ever, shit's exploding and moving all the time. It'd be nice for some modes with a bit of a slower pace to wind down.
To be honest I'm not sure this game would be getting this much attention if not for the huge marketing machine behind it, but it is a lot of fun and worth a try especially if you're in its target audience. Just not sure it's worth 60 bucks day one unless you know you won't get bored of it. I mean, matches are fun and hectic, but they're already getting repetitive and I'm not sure if more maps and modes would fix that. Maybe it's just me, I haven't really gotten into a multiplayer shooter in a long time.
Duxxy3
Member
I'm not convinced that COD fans will go to titanfall. Say there is 30% of the COD market that buy the games solely for single player - those are not going to titanfall.
Then you take away half of the market because it's not on Playstation. I think in the end you'll end up with around 30% of the COD market playing Titanfall.
That's still millions of sales.
Yeah I don't think any game will kill COD, we just need more games to diversify the AAA FPS genre, less chances of having COD influence nearly multiplayer game like last gen. Right now it is just COD & Battlefield.
RaGMasTeR90
Member
Nope.
For me it feels a lot like CoD, which i never liked. The Titans make a little difference though, but still i dont think its a game for me.
All the E3 Hype and Previews made me think it will be a cool game for people not into CoD or any generic Shooter, but i dont really feel it :/
For me it feels a lot like CoD, which i never liked. The Titans make a little difference though, but still i dont think its a game for me.
All the E3 Hype and Previews made me think it will be a cool game for people not into CoD or any generic Shooter, but i dont really feel it :/
If someone miss UT or Quake, that person must avoid Titanfall at any cost
I just finished a match where I saw a group of them come out of a pod, and I just melee killed all three of them, taking only minimum damage.
It's one of those things where it should have an asshole 0 gamer score achievement for when you get killed by a grunt.
Matarese171
Member
Its a lot of fun, I'm really enjoying it. Mainly because it caters nicely to my run around like a headless chicken tactic.
However its not a game changer IMO. I consider Half-life and its multiplayer mods at the time game changers. COD modern warfare to some extent aswell.
However its not a game changer IMO. I consider Half-life and its multiplayer mods at the time game changers. COD modern warfare to some extent aswell.
Haunted
Member
:lol
they don't fight back most of the time. I think you have to stand still in front of them for a good 5-6 seconds before they start to get a clue and shoot you once or twice. In 8 hours of matches I've never once died to one, and there have been many occasions where I ignored them in favor of shooting an enemy player.
Sometimes the spectres will shoot rockets at your titan, I guess? But they are incredibly obvious since their rocket launchers have little obvious 'HEY, KILL ME FIRST' laser sights on them. Not even sure they do significant damage.
It's going to sell millions of copies and be the first big next gen ip.
Broadbandito
Member
game is the shit.
Duxxy3
Member
But it's on 360...
Uncle00Jesse
Banned
To be honest I've played about 20 games and Im already starting to get bored of it. Probably a lot to do with the limited beta maps but I could see this thing getting old rather quick.
Rex Griswold
Member
It's certainly the most unique shooter I've played in a few years, Titanfall is both a breath of fresh air in this incredibly stale genre and really goddamn fun. I wouldn't call it revolutionary or game-changing though, but I wouldn't let that take away from the enjoyment of it.
TimeEffect
Member
I really do think that while the game is nowhere near the hype, it can still be a solid and active multiplayer title that can hang just below the likes of COD, Halo, and Battlefield.
That said, it's a shame that they are missing out on what makes those games so popular: a campaign (Halo, COD), and split-screen (Halo, COD). Battlefield is its own beast with the amazing variety in its gameplay.
Titanfall also needs more modes, especially infantry-only... that is, if the gunplay is strong enough. Enemies go down too fast, and it's a shame that Respawn brought over the gunplay seen in later COD games. COD4's guns were even at least more unique and required more skill, yet in this game, it seems incredibly easy to fire off these guns.
To compete with COD, they need more multiplayer modes, and some unique ones. I'm still waiting for a game to do what Killzone did and combine a bunch of modes into one game. I feel Titanfall would have been cool if they had that.
Games like COD and Halo are the complete package: Campaign, multiplayer modes, community, split-screen, personalization, theater mode, Forge, stat tracking... Games like Titanfall need to build up those staples.
I'm also a little unsure of the bots. Seems the game could get more out of its competitive play if it just did the common 9v9. Perhaps if you could guide bots to do certain things like follow you, or attack certain objectives, go down certain paths, etc, but that sounds more like a pain in the ass.
I enjoy the game, I really think it's fun, I'm just anxiously curious about the rest of the reveal
That said, it's a shame that they are missing out on what makes those games so popular: a campaign (Halo, COD), and split-screen (Halo, COD). Battlefield is its own beast with the amazing variety in its gameplay.
Titanfall also needs more modes, especially infantry-only... that is, if the gunplay is strong enough. Enemies go down too fast, and it's a shame that Respawn brought over the gunplay seen in later COD games. COD4's guns were even at least more unique and required more skill, yet in this game, it seems incredibly easy to fire off these guns.
To compete with COD, they need more multiplayer modes, and some unique ones. I'm still waiting for a game to do what Killzone did and combine a bunch of modes into one game. I feel Titanfall would have been cool if they had that.
Games like COD and Halo are the complete package: Campaign, multiplayer modes, community, split-screen, personalization, theater mode, Forge, stat tracking... Games like Titanfall need to build up those staples.
I'm also a little unsure of the bots. Seems the game could get more out of its competitive play if it just did the common 9v9. Perhaps if you could guide bots to do certain things like follow you, or attack certain objectives, go down certain paths, etc, but that sounds more like a pain in the ass.
I enjoy the game, I really think it's fun, I'm just anxiously curious about the rest of the reveal
MustacheBandit_
Member
Revolutionary? No. It takes some great aspects from past games and puts them all into one. Game changer and system seller for sure! This game is going to be huge. It is simply a ton of fun and feels fresh to a genre that has been feeling stale for a while.
But it's a next gen ip. Same with destiny and watchdogs....