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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)

Jintor

Member
I just wanted to comment I think that the general reaction of "Are you afraid of your own sexuality" to your more purile and immature critics isn't, y'know, helpful. Whether or not they're afraid of their own sexuality, repressed homosexuals, in the closet etc. doesn't really matter, and engaging on that in a combative fashion probably isn't going to help, and is probably just going to aggravate matters.
 
Lovely picture there, lexi. Definitely the best one of you yet.
LuCkymoON said:
He is very attractive as a female, I can only assume it was the school staff that had a problem with his gender.
Eh? We're talking about high school here, someone is going to have a problem with him, regardless of location.
 
This thread has been pretty dead lately. :(
I blame OA. *shakes fist*
Luckily, I have been exploring transgender specific forums and even joined one. :D

I tried shaving my thighs earlier last week, which was a huge mistake. I screwed up and had some very bad razor burn on my thighs for a few days. :\ I did shave my arms, though.
 

mollipen

Member
I was just thinking the same thing today (that this thread has been awfully quiet).

Hopefully you have a good experience at the TG forum that you joined. I found one last year that I joined, and ended up getting turned off by the experience pretty quickly. Don't get me wrong: it's a great resource, and a nice place to talk about things or ask questions without feeling weird about doing so. For me, though, I found being on a forum specifically dedicated to that topic to be incredibly heavy emotionally; it's hard to talk about things casually when you always have this huge cloud of mental, emotional, and physical issues weighing down everybody who is a member.

Plus, I actually like having people who aren't TG taking part in the discussion most of the time. There are those times when it's nice to get away from that and be able to talk shop directly to people who understand your situation, but that's what things like IM and whatnot are great for.

As for shaving, I remember some months ago when I decided it'd be a great idea to use an electric razor to shave my underarms. I think, years and years ago, I had learned why that was such a bad idea; obviously, I forgot the lesson that I had learned, and had to learn it again.
 

Hop

That girl in the bunny hat
My only experience with TG-focused forums was full-speed drama, so I'm not too interested in going back to one anytime soon.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
I've been using 420chan's /cd/ for the past week or so. Actually a pretty nice place/community for a *chan board.
 
Aigis said:
I've been using 420chan's /cd/ for the past week or so. Actually a pretty nice place/community for a *chan board.
Interesting. Unfortunately, I can't stand imageboards.
Charron said:
My only experience with TG-focused forums was full-speed drama, so I'm not too interested in going back to one anytime soon.
Well, given the nature of the content, a certain level of drama is to be expected.
 
Himuro said:
How's the shaving going, junpei? :lol
T_T I need to reevaluate my strategy. I think I'm going to try Nair before I go back to using a razor. My current shower situation isn't the best for shaving, since I don't have a tub and it's pretty dark.

On another note, apparently a lack of hair on my legs makes putting on/taking off my jeans more of a pain than usual. I feel like such a girl for having to do weird body movements to get them on. >_> The razor burn did not help.

Edit: Some of the before and after pictures on the forum I'm reading are mind blowing. :O
 

Hop

That girl in the bunny hat
ninj4junpei said:
T_T I need to reevaluate my strategy. I think I'm going to try Nair before I go back to using a razor. My current shower situation isn't the best for shaving, since I don't have a tub and it's pretty dark.

On another note, apparently a lack of hair on my legs makes putting on/taking off my jeans more of a pain than usual. I feel like such a girl for having to do weird body movements to get them on. >_> The razor burn did not help.

I... thought that was the intended direction.
 

mollipen

Member
ninj4junpei said:
Edit: Some of the before and after pictures on the forum I'm reading are mind blowing. :O

As I had mentioned to somebody else previously, that's one of the major reasons I'd actually recommend anybody who is TG to check out TG-specific forums. The transformations people go through are sometimes nothing short of epic, and it really can give you more confidence in what your potential may be if you yourself transition.
 
Charron said:
Well, you can't see yourself look silly, so why care? :p
One of my rude suitemates could barge into the bathroom. >_> Then again, I don't think that would phase them much at this point.
shidoshi said:
As I had mentioned to somebody else previously, that's one of the major reasons I'd actually recommend anybody who is TG to check out TG-specific forums. The transformations people go through are sometimes nothing short of epic, and it really can give you more confidence in what your potential may be if you yourself transition.
It's definitely very inspiring. :D Though it feels weird when I see a cute girl and then realize they are FTM. :lol

One of the more impressive transformations I saw was a MTF who had been in the Navy.
 

Wads

Banned
Looks like this thread isdying off a bit. Just wanted to say hi and show support for the 2nd time. I've definitely learned a lot by lurking the thread and Ive always been understanding and open minded, but I definitely understand this more from lurking! So, keep up the good fight and don't let those trolls keep you from posting!
 

mollipen

Member
Wads said:
Looks like this thread isdying off a bit.

Any thread that goes on for any amount of time ends up going through phases. Sometimes there's a flurry of posts every hour, sometimes it quiets down for a while.

Maybe everyone is off buying new sundresses or something so that they can go out and appreciate the warmer weather. *laughs*
 

lexi

Banned
shidoshi said:
Any thread that goes on for any amount of time ends up going through phases. Sometimes there's a flurry of posts every hour, sometimes it quiets down for a while.

Maybe everyone is off buying new sundresses or something so that they can go out and appreciate the warmer weather. *laughs*

Well its approaching winter in Australia, no sundresses for me. I don't have the figure for them anyway.
 
lexi said:
Well its approaching winter in Australia, no sundresses for me. I don't have the figure for them anyway.
Ooh, then does that mean we'll get to see pics of you and Jamie in winter attire soon? :D *is fairly ignorant of the Australian climate(s)*

A small update for me. I saw my psychiatrist today and told him I might be a transsexual. His first response was that I hadn't had surgery, so I couldn't be a transsexual. Obviously, he didn't know much about the subject, which was to be expected. From that point on in the conversation, I just stuck with transgendered. >_> The discussion was very short lived. I was so disappointed, I even printed out The Harry Benjamin Standards of Care. :\ He set up an appointment for me to meet with someone who will hopefully be able to find me a therapist for the summer. Unfortunately, I don't believe there are any gender therapists near where I'll be for the summer.
 
@ninj4junpei Wow. It's good you're getting a referral elsewhere. It really needs to be a gender therapist or psychiatrist who deals in gender issues.

It's a top temperature of 13 degrees (Celsius) here today. I'd say Winter is starting early this year.
 
I know I need to see a specialist, but that doesn't seem plausible for the time being. :\ It might not be possible, unless I transfer to a school in one of the few trans friendly, relatively speaking, cities in my state or straight up move.
Himuro said:
That was my reaction, but I didn't say it out loud.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Melbourne weather is awesome.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
UPDATES PLZ LEXI

Anywho, I'm posting because I had a surreal dream that I bumped into Jamie while wandering the streets of Richmond. To be correct, she was the one who noticed me. We then went and had lunch because I was hungry. The end.
 

mollipen

Member
My goal should really be to get a job before lexi does, since I lost mine before she did. *heh*

And I feel so left out not being able to give any updates along with the rest of the group. Yeah for an utter lack of progression! *sighs* I guess I can say that a combination of my hair being long enough + my hair being annoying if left to its own devices now leave me constantly having to stop myself from walking out of the house with pigtails. *laughs*
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
If you dont mind me asking, shidoshi, how are things with your wife?

I guess I have this thought in my head that the whole situation would be a complete mess.
 

mollipen

Member
Well, you seem to have a pretty good grip on the situation. *laughs* Lately it's gotten REALLY bad, and then cooled down, then gotten bad again, then cooled down again. A few weeks ago I was pretty certain that we were over, but the next day things got better.

A little under a week ago, though, we had a fight, and that came up (as it tends to do), and in talking about things she told me with 100% certainly that her mind will not change (concerning not being able to stay with me should I decide that I need to transition). I was kind of hoping that, in thinking about things, she might at least budge a little bit on being open to at least trying to see if things would work if that were to happen, but no go.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Damn, sorry to hear. Your situation is a little different from others like lexi and Jamie, as while they're single and going through this transformation now, you've gone and done the whole married thing :p. I guess that's why I'm interested in seeing how it goes as there's a close second party in the whole thing.

Hopefully it works out, and by that I mean it ends in a situation best for both parties. Keep us updated!
 
Sorry to hear that shidoshi. :(

I highly doubt she is really 100% certain and is just telling you and more importantly herself that. Of course, this is none of my business. :x
 
Himuro said:
Tonight's Family Guy covered transsexualism.

Should be up on hulu soon.

God I love Family Guy. I watched an episode of The I.T. Crowd last night that dealt (hilariously) with the topic as well. Season 3, episode 4 I think it was. Recommended for laughs, not for insight.

Shidoshi, I'm really sorry to hear about your wife's ultimatum. Love is often converted from romantic to platonic through a transition - not just gender transitions, but all kinds of life transitions. It sounds like your wife is just being honest and upfront with you about what she knows would happen in her heart. Maybe you would find yourself unable to love your wife in the same way you do now as well once you go further down the track, growing into a different version of what you are now. It's a real issue, I'm sorry you have to face it.

Alternatively - bummer. =( That sucks.

@Eatchildren - that's the least surreal dream I've ever heard of. I have lunch with people all the time. If you're going to dream about me again can I get to fly or something? Seriously dude, step it up.
 

lexi

Banned
Hi all, There's not much to update, I still don't have a job and it's getting a little bit depressing. I may have a 2nd interview this Wednesday but I'm not holding my breath.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
lexi said:
Hi all, There's not much to update, I still don't have a job and it's getting a little bit depressing. I may have a 2nd interview this Wednesday but I'm not holding my breath.
Good luck lexi :)
 

Fox the Sly

Member
Good luck!

I've been out of work for 2 years and it doesn't help that I don't have the training that I need. Good times. :lol

FFXI still has me by the balls...
 
shidoshi said:
Well, you seem to have a pretty good grip on the situation. *laughs* Lately it's gotten REALLY bad, and then cooled down, then gotten bad again, then cooled down again. A few weeks ago I was pretty certain that we were over, but the next day things got better.

A little under a week ago, though, we had a fight, and that came up (as it tends to do), and in talking about things she told me with 100% certainly that her mind will not change (concerning not being able to stay with me should I decide that I need to transition). I was kind of hoping that, in thinking about things, she might at least budge a little bit on being open to at least trying to see if things would work if that were to happen, but no go.

To be fair, if my GF decided she wanted to take testosterone, have her breasts removed and a penis constructed out of her clit, I wouldn't put up with it either. It has nothing to do with being 'open-minded'; the terms of the relationship are radically altered, on purpose, so it's not like she'd go through breast cancer and mastectomy as a life-saving surgery (or any flawed parallel you sometimes hear in this thread). I didn't sign up to be paired up with a man. It would kill any intimacy or attraction I would have for her(?). I'd probably stay friends of something, especially if kids are involved, but forget about sucking her cock or rubbing her hairy torso.

I know this is supposed to be a support thread, but a dose of reality is needed sometimes.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Jamie xxoo said:
@Eatchildren - that's the least surreal dream I've ever heard of. I have lunch with people all the time. If you're going to dream about me again can I get to fly or something? Seriously dude, step it up.

I have successfully managed to separate internet life and gaming from my dream world. I never dream about games, and I never dream about internet identities. My surreal dreams are the norm.

Meeting one of you lot and going out for placid, normal coffee is surreal by comparison.

Jamie xxoo said:
I watched an episode of The I.T. Crowd last night that dealt (hilariously) with the topic as well. Season 3, episode 4 I think it was. Recommended for laughs, not for insight.

This is a good episode. I approve.
 

mollipen

Member
Instigator said:
I know this is supposed to be a support thread, but a dose of reality is needed sometimes.

Trust me, we've already discussed that angle in relation to me, and I'm smart enough that I'm more than aware of the reality of my situation. That doesn't mean that I can't still hope that the person I married and love dearly might at least be willing to change her mind enough to give things a try should I decide I can't go on without taking that step.

I've made almost no advancement in myself nor my situation over the past year specifically for her benefit, as well as the hope that maybe we can somehow work out our relationship in one way or another. If I wasn't being realistic about it all I'd probably be on hormones by now and thinking she's still be there for me no matter what.
 
Hey, it's me.

Jamie xxoo said:
I watched an episode of The I.T. Crowd last night that dealt (hilariously) with the topic as well.
Why would it bother me that you were born in Iran?

Instigator said:
so it's not like she'd go through breast cancer and mastectomy as a life-saving surgery (or any flawed parallel you sometimes hear in this thread)
Sheesh, I was never trying to draw a parallel between GID and cancer. Sometimes I just don't like the way you word things.
 

Nikashi

Banned
Instigator, I can't be the only one here thinking this, but every post you make in this thread seems to be hostility in the guise of 'oh, I'm just trying to inject reality into the situation, obviously I'm the only one who can REALLY see the truth'.

You honestly come off as trolling while trying to be just civil enough to avoid getting yourself banned.

Maybe that's just me tho.
 
lexi said:
Any updates NewGamePlus?
Weeellllll, ok, I finally wimped out of giving myself injections. Turns out two weeks is long enough to rebuild all of the mental barriers about doing it again and it started getting harder instead of easier. So, I'm officially taking pills, but honestly two months is longer than I thought I might last. :lol
 
Nikashi said:
Instigator, I can't be the only one here thinking this, but every post you make in this thread seems to be hostility in the guise of 'oh, I'm just trying to inject reality into the situation, obviously I'm the only one who can REALLY see the truth'.

You honestly come off as trolling while trying to be just civil enough to avoid getting yourself banned.

Maybe that's just me tho.

lol

Sounds like someone just read the last few pages.

I am aware this thread generally deals with a sensitive issue, but things are way too sugar-coated here. So yes, I know how to speak my mind while walking that fine line with the arbitrarily enforced TOS. Don't like it? You always have the IGNORE function.

If you just disagree with whatever I'm saying, then bring it on.
 
NewGamePlus said:
Weeellllll, ok, I finally wimped out of giving myself injections. Turns out two weeks is long enough to rebuild all of the mental barriers about doing it again and it started getting harder instead of easier. So, I'm officially taking pills, but honestly two months is longer than I thought I might last. :lol
:lol If I went with injections, the same thing would probably happen to me. Congrats on at least making it two months.
 

Shanadeus

Banned
I dunno really if this belongs in this thread but I found it pretty interesting:

Men feel a connection with a virtual female body


To see if the virtual world could be used to induce a similar illusion, Slater's team gave 24 men a head-tracking video display to wear and recorded their heart rates. When the volunteers looked down, in place of their own body they saw that of a 10-year-old girl in a tartan skirt. They also saw a virtual woman approaching them and stroking their virtual girl's arm, while in the real world unseen experimenters touched the men's flesh-and-blood arm.

After this preparation, the virtual visual angle of the men's headsets changed, and the volunteers found themselves looking down on their avatars. They now saw the girl being slapped by the virtual woman. Immediately afterwards, the men were asked to rate how strongly they felt that the girl's body was theirs.
 
Yeah, I've seen her around before. Cute as a boy and a girl.

Don't really know about patches. My doctor offered pills, injections, or time-release tablets that he would implant every few months o_o
 
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