RedNumberFive
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I think we all pretty much knew that the only reason game journalism exists is to act as a tool of PR, but this certainly confirms it.
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Video Game Journalism
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Riposte
Member
If you already thought this was true, what is so special about this video? It doesn't really allow us to look into the nature of "videogame journalism" to any significant degree.
One consistent failure both "game journos" and GAF makes is the inability to separate "game journalism" and game criticism. Frankly, what we have now is a lesser evil compared to what people want to push as good game journalism.
I don't what you are trying to say.
The word 'journalism' implies a lot of things but not being a paid shill for junk food.
We would need good examples first.
Not to me.
I see a guy degrade himself by sitting on a pile of junk food he is paid to shill I am not going to care one bit about anything else he has to say about games.
How can he perform any kind of journalistic function when he is paid my these people?
So it is a problem, but we should close our eyes because you think there are a lot worse ones? Is that your point?
Riposte
Member
If you want to break down what videogame journalism is then you should look at its mechanics as a system, not make a big show over a gaffe where a dude poses with some "mtn dew" (in order words reactive sensationalism). The dependent nature of the writer to the company, the priority on garnering an audience (competing with other outlets), and how both these can interfere with videogame criticism are more important details to cover (writing previews can interfere with writing reviews). Though, if GAF wants to make a big story about so and so getting money from Microsoft to do a documentary or whatever, well they are free to chase the entertainment of that.
Yet you continue to pretend you care.
YuriLowell
Member
All Journalists people get paid from advertisements, get over it.
Ken Masters
Banned
Will he give Halo 4 a 10/10 or a 10/10?
A Dorritos Locos 11 out of a Baja Blast 10.
Riposte
Member
He probably isn't going to review Halo 4.
GameTrailers will, however.
Ravensmash
Member
Yeah, because newspapers and broadcasters, etc. don't rely on advertising to fund their production
It's blatant and looks absolutely ridiculous in this example, but it's just highlighting what we already know - ads fund stuff.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Or to push an agenda so that you can get a job at the company you are stroking... like Shane Bettenhausen.
Yeah, because newspapers and broadcasters, etc. don't rely on advertising to fund their production
It's blatant and looks absolutely ridiculous in this example, but it's just highlighting what we already know - ads fund stuff.
A journalist for The New York Times is not going to feature in an ad printed in the newspaper.
They are entirely separate. For reasons I would have thought should be obvious.
You put words in other peoples mouth. Congrats.
Buzzword reply or did you actually read his post
Advertisements are part of the payment, yes. Obviously. But you won´t see a CNN-reporter with a huge "vote for Democrats" sign behind him or sitting on a pile of junk food. There are certain standards within journalism.
Canis lupus
Member
What is Doritos chips doing there? A bit off topic, I never liked Geoff Keighley ever since I saw that Angry Joe interview.
Riposte
Member
Really? Keighley was the one who lost face in that confrontation?
Both are owned by Pepsi.
Haunted
Member
"Will this energy drink fuel your Halo marathon, or will it fizzle out before finishing the fight?"
Haunted
Member
hahaha oh wowBut Brad Pitt is doing comercials for the WiiU.
Surprised the article didn't mention that the Wii U advert somehow ended with the Xperia logo. :lol
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
funny that gamers think to ask this question only when confronted by what looks like a postmodern dutch still life of the most sadsack games writer on earth, and not when they see the fucking things at the grocery store surrounded by actual food
fuck you
RedNumberFive
Banned
Ah, how could I forget the ol' "community manager" ploy.
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
i only notice the odious nature of my barf life when it confronts me in the form of a youtube video
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
imagine you're a pax east attendee who suffers from a rare neurological condition in which the sounds of footfalls from the herd of cows around you is cognitively transformed into the sound and smell of frito bags being ripped open
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
pax east promises the world's first dew'n'doritos slurry wrestling. do foul battle with likeminded turds in a kids pool filled with code red, doritos and axe body spray
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
pringles pr desperate to help gamers slam a stack of something, they're just not sure what yet
Neato_Jinkins
Banned
the logical conclusion of a subculture based on consumption
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
People complain that video game journalism lacks professionalism, when you walk around like a slob it brings down your credibility as being a professional, thus I find your post stupid.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Let me tell you something, little miss. Advertising pays our bills, alright? Advertising pays your salary. Advertising is what made this country great. What is the Constitution of the United States? A document? No, it is an advertisement, an advertisement for liberty. "When in the course of human events," oh, I'm telling you that's right up there with "put a tiger in your tank" and "where's the beef." Don't you understand? I'm sorry, I've got to get some air.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Do people really eat Doritos while gaming? I wouldn't be able to stand getting all that powdery grease all over my controllers.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Doritos are disgusting. It's not hard.
HyperCubed4
Member
Wait, is this the same guy that defended Mass Effect on Fox News?
Cheap shot, OJG...and doesn't apply unless his master plan involved going to work for some other company for a couple of years before making that transition.
The Faceless Master
Member
I like how they have trucker, normal people and urban versions.And one of these brah, preferably the white one:
Chet Rippo
Member
But it's just not enough for all that mtn dew. They just don't know how to throw a party.
kablamoman
Neo Member
hmmm... Masterchief, Doritos and Mountain dew..... seems very stereotypical. Most of the people who I've seen combine those things aren't great gamers. I would think doritos would make you a worse at video games if not for the crumb filled controller, then certainly the indigestion. As for mountain dew..... guess they've established themselves as the "gamer's drink." I don't see the appeal of Mountain Dew, but hey, they've got a certain image that gives them an appeal to a certain audience so whatever. Pepsi Co. Probably knows nothing about gaming but as with any industry that grows, big corporations always want a piece of the action so they get into every little bit of video games they can, I mean just look at all the advertisements that actually exists within games themselves.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
That's the thousand yard stare of a bloke who's all too accustomed to dropping his trousers.
So geoff, how many GOTY awards is HALO4 penned in for during this years VGA's?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Not cheap, just facts. Shane up'd the review scores of exclusive games in EGM (in all reviews he did, he always scored the highest out of the three if it was a PS3 exclusive) then basically is a one man ad campaign for the system and games to the point where he is mocked because of it then ends up working for the company? Sony even gave him a personal launch PS3 that they didn't hand out to the other EGM staff and he was hand picked by the publisher... not EGM editors to be flown to Japan to stay in a retreat to write about MGS4.
That is so shady on so many levels. He showed if you work hard enough and campaign and PR for a company you like in the gaming press that you can be rewarded with a job there for your good deeds.
VeryGooster
Banned
But Brad Pitt is doing comercials for the WiiU.
Brad Pitt actively trying to fool the press.
dark_prinny
Banned
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Cramoss
Member
Geoff Keighley is simply a corporate mouthpiece. Pay him, and he will come. About once a year he decides to pretend to be a "hard-hitting journalist" by asking awkwardly aggressive questions to some corporate shill (usually Reggie) as if to say to the audience, "Eh? Eh? See how legit I am? Now gimme my Game Fuel (TM)!"
Or to put it more simply...
Exhibit A: SpikeTV Awards.
The prosecution rests.
Or to put it more simply...
Exhibit A: SpikeTV Awards.
The prosecution rests.
TUROK
Member
Or maybe he does it when he knows he won't be reprimanded over it.
There's no street cred to be had as an unemployed, hard-hitting journalist. Or money, for that matter.
dark_prinny
Banned
But Brad Pitt is doing comercials for the WiiU.
It´s gonna be the best add ever.
Scene:
- Brad Pit, appears cosplaying Pitt ( from Kid Ikarus ).
- First you can only see the wings and a familiar voice saying: " My name is Pit "
- Then he turns over and says: " Brad Pitt "
-WiiU: Now your playing with Brad -
* Angelina Jolie not included.
BEST ADD EVER.