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Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III |OT| This one really is Warcraft 4
- Thread starter Bolivar687
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Yeah should be global exp systems for the elites you use and not individual for the elites you have equipped.
Playing multi I hardly gain anything valuable and it's just an artificial grind more so than anything.
I'm slightly intrigued, but to me the idea of unlocks in a multiplayer RTS game is ridiculous. That alone puts a heavy damper on it.
Yeah I can see that. For me it's been a small issue since slowly going through the doctrines gives me time to learn them.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
If it's any consolation, you can unlock pretty much everything for a single race by just going through the single player campaign.
For me it's a minor issue but I see your point
Agreed, farming skulls to unlock doctrines / elites is kind of dumb... but you do get skulls fairly quickly. It's not as bad as it sounds. I've played about 10 hours or so and have unlocked all the SM elites and a bunch of doctrines.
Edit: Apparently I've played 25 hours.. that got away from me quickly.
Edit: Apparently I've played 25 hours.. that got away from me quickly.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Yeah, I used to kinda hate it cause it wasn't DoW2, but the more I play it, the more I like it. Obviously has a few balance issues at the moment (Macha can instagib squads before anyone can react, Chaplain is useless, Tactical Marines are terrible, Assault Marines with Power Sword are ridiculous), but it's nowhere near as bad as DoW1 or 2's launch balance.
DoW2 got a huge update some months after release (8 multiplayer maps were added to the overall map pool), so maybe they follow the same pattern here.
irfaanator
Banned
yea. you can redo the missions to get some more as well. I think I got around 1700 skulls/got the main elites up to 8 and the others from around 3-6 and this is me doing all the missions on casual and maybe like 4 on normal.
Bolivar687
Banned
A late game elite that comes out earlier than Solaria, like either of the Terminators or the Venerable Dreadnought. You often don't build up enough for 10 point Elites in your average 1v1 or even 2v2 match unless you're skipping your earlier ones.
Good idea, thanks!
Is there a way to guard locations? Couldn't figure out how to do this in single player.
Vincent Alexander
Member
OK. I was lukewarm and kind of "whatever" towards this campaign, enjoying it, but not loving it. Then Mission 13-14 hit...now I think I'm really digging it.
Solaria's pre-mission conversation with the Inquisitor was good stuff. And I loved Diomedes raging about Gabriel's death and how he was going to board the Inquistor's ship and take his head. Shit got me amped. Now let's go save big G.
Sorry, I meant running a guard circuit.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Mission 14:
The fanboy is starting to have too much fun now. Actually, this gif probably isn't doing justice to my enjoyment.
The fanboy is starting to have too much fun now. Actually, this gif probably isn't doing justice to my enjoyment.
Berzerkiymc
Neo Member
Just finished mission 5, gotta say im not getting the hate for the campaign so far.
Does it get much worse or something?
Does it get much worse or something?
Vincent Alexander
Member
See my post above. It only gets better. My nipples could cut glass right now I'm having so much fun.
i do think the game has too high of a skill ceiling and the flow might be a bit too much for the average rts player. in past relic titles you could at the very least still be useful spamming support units (hmg/mortar) and arty/tanks but it doesn't really work in this game. i also think this is one of the game's bigger shortcomings, it's near impossible for the average to bad player to be useful in the game's current state. bad play is easily abusable and is a large part of the reason the game is being negatively received, e.g. elites being overpowered
at the very least i believe map awareness in team games is more important than micro. more often than not, i get my ass handed to me either through double or triple teaming while my teammates are sitting on their asses turtling. i don't necessarily need them to come to my rescue but at the very least, if you're not coming to my rescue make a trade.
of course this can easily be circumvented if the game had a proper ranking system that works more like what blizzard did for starcraft 2 than the hidden mmr relic uses in coh2.
i would just not play team games but i find the game to really shine in 2v2 and 3v3 the more and more i play it. the game comes together brilliantly when you're matched up evenly and nobody is turtling. relic games always scaled better than other rts games but coh was always a god awful mess with more than 4 players. this might not be the case for dow3? i'd like to see some team comp match ups in the future, something that is sorely missing from the rts comp scene. time will tel
at the very least i believe map awareness in team games is more important than micro. more often than not, i get my ass handed to me either through double or triple teaming while my teammates are sitting on their asses turtling. i don't necessarily need them to come to my rescue but at the very least, if you're not coming to my rescue make a trade.
of course this can easily be circumvented if the game had a proper ranking system that works more like what blizzard did for starcraft 2 than the hidden mmr relic uses in coh2.
i would just not play team games but i find the game to really shine in 2v2 and 3v3 the more and more i play it. the game comes together brilliantly when you're matched up evenly and nobody is turtling. relic games always scaled better than other rts games but coh was always a god awful mess with more than 4 players. this might not be the case for dow3? i'd like to see some team comp match ups in the future, something that is sorely missing from the rts comp scene. time will tel
They work in the singleplayer just fine.
grandwizard
Member
The lack of rebindable keys is really crazy. Totalbiscuit even called it out in his video because it's such a standard PC game thing. Especially after SC2's amazing controls/keybinds options.
I love that so many of the units have castable abilities as well as the elites. Gives me stuff to focus on when armies clash instead of just sit and watch!
I love that so many of the units have castable abilities as well as the elites. Gives me stuff to focus on when armies clash instead of just sit and watch!
Mission 14:
The fanboy is starting to have too much fun now. Actually, this gif probably isn't doing justice to my enjoyment.
Hmm alright now I'm excited to keep going
They're not bad but the previous game had more details to the models.
Oh dear it looks like this game is dead in the water already, been having a lot of fun with the multiplayer but as said earlier in this thread, who still wants to bother with a 10/15hour learning curve to get a grip on the multiplayer...
Game has a couple issues but it doesn't deserve all this hate, holy shit.
Game has a couple issues but it doesn't deserve all this hate, holy shit.
Indeed, but the scale is different and thus the models need to reflect this difference, otherwise the screen would be too busy and cluttered.
Personally I like the change but not the complete turn around to as heavy handed as it is now, especially without the option for keybinds to soften the blow a bit.
Just not what people expected from relic looking at their record but even then, seems like the best selling DoW to date, looking at steamspy.
Not sure it would cause clutter but it would lead to 3v3s being more heavy on a system of course, but that could be fixed with a "HD" pack or options.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Relic never implemented this in coh2, so not so sure of dow3 will see that either....
With Relic I wouldnt assume anything with regards to adding features.
Saves you from disapointment.
grandwizard
Member
Btw:
Ordinaryundone
Member
Btw:
What about mobility abilities designed to do damage, like Gabe's jump or Jain's dash? I'm guessing they just move away?
There's several.
Like this one dude shoots a meteor or orb in an arc which just wipes out 90% of normal squads and 70% of the Ironmaws
How do you cheese something that expensive?
