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Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III |OT| This one really is Warcraft 4
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Berzerkiymc
Neo Member
joined! berzerk880 addd meeee
Vincent Alexander
Member
With such a small community, I just figured a discord would die quickly. I'll join up once I get home.
Ordinaryundone
Member
I mean, I get WHY. Even in the TT Tacs aren't very good, they are just one of those units you have to bring for versatility and number's sake. That said I love the little guys; there is something appealing about the standard, no frills Space Marine. Honestly my biggest point of contention is that they removed Missile Launchers as an upgrade. The beauty of Tacs was their versatility, they weren't especially good at anything but they could slot into almost any role when needed. That versatility enabled you to be very reactionary and that is part of the fun of playing SMs.
Imo they should deal more ranged damage.
There's too little models in a squad to have that little ranged damage. If you lose one, you can't beat any other ranged starter squad anymore.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Blah. I gotta get in some games with you guys. Just played my very first two games online since beta, and both were frustrating with randoms. Quit my second one after team and I rushed a middle resource point at very beginning, we captured, then they moved their early units back into their base....Kept them there for next 5 minutes, and my guys got murdered at middle point that I just blew money putting listening post on and my 4 squads of Boyz. Team didn't even move a muscle with my pings.
Ok. Here's what cheeses my onions.
Space Marines would never use these cannons in the MP mode. It's heresy cannons. They probably wouldn't even defend the power core because they'd rather blow it the fuck up and die than let the enemy take it.
Orks. Why and how the hell do they have eldar technology. They'd just scrap that shit a build a huge motherfucking power mech.
They could at least make models depending on race, even if the idea that you have shield generator before the cannons 🤔
Alright carry on.
Space Marines would never use these cannons in the MP mode. It's heresy cannons. They probably wouldn't even defend the power core because they'd rather blow it the fuck up and die than let the enemy take it.
Orks. Why and how the hell do they have eldar technology. They'd just scrap that shit a build a huge motherfucking power mech.
They could at least make models depending on race, even if the idea that you have shield generator before the cannons 🤔
Alright carry on.
Keep a builder near your army.
Yesterday I sneaked in the middle of an eldar army with my Kommando and nuked 4 squads with his W into Z, stunned the rest and jumped/truck-ejected a melee blob on them. Dude was probably pretty shook when his army disappeared in about 5 seconds.
Also as Orks your best kill move is to eject Nobz into the middle of the enemy, taunt them all and use all your AoE on that taunt.
Yesterday I sneaked in the middle of an eldar army with my Kommando and nuked 4 squads with his W into Z, stunned the rest and jumped/truck-ejected a melee blob on them. Dude was probably pretty shook when his army disappeared in about 5 seconds.
Also as Orks your best kill move is to eject Nobz into the middle of the enemy, taunt them all and use all your AoE on that taunt.
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Playing as Eldar I can pretty much beat everything from space marines or Mirror matches vs Eldar.
But I can't beat Orks, even if they are not very good players. Nobz and their taunt counter Eldar SO hard during early game that the Ork always gets a huge economy advantage and steamrolls me. I sometimes have 2-3 times units killed than the ork and can defend vs huge armies with right positioning, but once I leave my base they crush me with an infinite flood of units....
But I can't beat Orks, even if they are not very good players. Nobz and their taunt counter Eldar SO hard during early game that the Ork always gets a huge economy advantage and steamrolls me. I sometimes have 2-3 times units killed than the ork and can defend vs huge armies with right positioning, but once I leave my base they crush me with an infinite flood of units....
Nobz aren't early game though, they cost 200 power and need some Waaaagh towers.
Vincent Alexander
Member
If anyone is up for teaming up and playing a match of multiplayer, I'm in discord hanging out at the moment.
This community makes me sad
Seems dead already.
This community makes me sad
Seems dead already.It's 3 towers too I believe so that's like 425 power invested before you can build the first Nob squad. I imagine the Eldar gitz have quite a few boyz of their own at that point.
Orks Vs Eldar is a pretty weird match up atm. I feel like before I get either gorgutz or nobz eldar just steamroll me complete because avengers and banshess are faster/better than the boyz but as soon as i hit that point it swings totally in my favour. Would you guys say SM are probably the weakest right now?
If anyone is up for teaming up and playing a match of multiplayer, I'm in discord hanging out at the moment.
This community makes me sad
I think the skill curve of the MP might hurt it.
If anyone is up for teaming up and playing a match of multiplayer, I'm in discord hanging out at the moment.
This community makes me sad
Wait 2 weeks. Then I'll have finished my master and can go full Deo
Never go full Deo
Gimme those badass Tacs again.
They should be more Swiss Army, than butter knife.
wait until the nba playoffs get spaced out a bit, then i can get in on some mp
Yeah I'm way too into the playoffs, to play games.
Complete campaign on casual, normal and hard + warp spider elite level 10 still won't trigger for me. Only 4 achievements I'm missing
Have you replayed the missions?
No, fuck thatHave you replayed the missions?
I got all the hard achievements for each map and everything. Should be enough to trigger it...Also my warp is 10, did a match after and still nothing for it 😭
So some questions on playing space marines. Right now I build barracks, get out assaults, build armory, get powersword, then go for teir 2 and vehicles. Should I be investing more in soldiers before going for vehicles, like heavy bolters, upgrades, etc? Also when capturing points how fast should I pour money into developing the resources on a point. I am having trouble knowing how to balance everything. Love the game, but this is why I was better at dow2 lol
I checked the bug report forums and apparently achievements not proccing is a known problem and will probably get fixed on Monday's patch.Complete campaign on casual, normal and hard + warp spider elite level 10 still won't trigger for me. Only 4 achievements I'm missing
Vincent Alexander
Member
I won my first game last night since the beta so I am by no means good at this...like, at all. It was an hour-long gruel, but I followed your early strategy, but didn't touch vehicles until late game, that way I could focus my resources on infantry upgrades. Up until near the last 20 minutes of the hour long match I was mixing devastators, assault marines, and the laser canon marines (can't remember names). I built less-and-less assault marines, and just utilized my paladin elite to keep them safe from close combat. I pushed in hard on one side and lost it all, but I tore through a ton of the enemy. After, I shifted focus to 100% vehicles building 1-to-1 ratio of the Predators good against armor and infantry. Once I had about 10 altogether, and my paladin was back, I pushed in one more time. They were rushing our mid in a panic, but I gobbled through the rest of them and we won. Those predator mixes are mean.
Flamers are so damn good for the annoying ork mobs.
I just watched some videos and noticed the same, working on devastators and leaving vehicles until later, thanks for the reply!
Vincent Alexander
Member
Just played a 3v3 where I equipped both the Paladin knight guy and Solaria. We ate the other team up, and by end I had both of them out at once. It was brutal.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I really hate super powers. A lot. They take so much strategy out of RTS games. Sat lasers, storms, etc.
I agree, it's one of the only things I don't like about the game. If they stay then they just need to be a bit weaker... more like a nuke from Starcraft.
Vincent Alexander
Member
This might be extreme, but I feel like a good fix would be that you only get to use it once in a fight. Maybe even make them MORE strong if that makes people happy with that limit. But a team that is ahead has such a huge advantage in this, especially when they are so comfortably ahead they can hold onto them for their final push into a base. I mean...what do you do against this? It's a real shame because we were slowly collapsing, but we actually had a really good last stand as our base started falling down. Without these sats raining lasers down, we actually would have been able to clear out most of their army pushing in.
Assuming you mean once a game?
They could also just make it cost a shit load of elite points to deter people from using it unless it's the ultra ultra late game.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Yeah. Once a game. I'd also be happy with it costing more as well. In the end, we would have lost the game above if they didn't have their powers. But it is much more fun to go down swinging with units fighting instead of having hell rained down from above.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I've never enjoyed 1v1, and 3v3s have been pissing me off with super powers happening all the time. I think I found my sweet spot with 2v2 games. I've played a handful last night and today, and have been much more fun. They aren't too chaotic, and powers aren't flying all over the place.
Those super powers are the only thing that can punish a turtling player in the game...
I love this game, but the kill-the-core mechanic is just bad. Players not having any points in the map can just spam defensive units and prolong a game so long and sometimes even win if you make a bad push and lose your army. Just fucking concede bro!
Victory points were so much better.
I love this game, but the kill-the-core mechanic is just bad. Players not having any points in the map can just spam defensive units and prolong a game so long and sometimes even win if you make a bad push and lose your army. Just fucking concede bro!
Victory points were so much better.
Berzerkiymc
Neo Member
Ok Campaign beaten. Story really played it safe, but man was in a fun ride.
Hoping to see some expansions down the road.
Hoping to see some expansions down the road.
Ive only played 3 missions but i've been finding it so damn boring. I went back to previous relic games over this weekend, specifically DOW2 Chaos Rising and Ardennes Assault and those are so much fun compared to this and i'm more interested in playing through them than go back to 3
I really, really hope we see a really good campaign expansion or two
Berzerkiymc
Neo Member
Actually i preferred this campaign to those. Started off slow but it picked up a lot around the middle.
Good to hear and will definitely go back to it.
Listened to the 3 moves ahead podcast last night and they weren't too hot on it but its good to hear it picks up.
Well the after credits scene got me excited.
Btw people, DON'T skip the credits, or you'll also skip this scene.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
The Player Profile screen still looks like it's rendered in 320x240. Wonder what's up with that.
Stevey
Member
Sweet, wonder if they fixed the achievements?