Ninja Scooter
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Whats with the lack of gender/race diversity in the Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Roster?
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Jessica Jones' super will be doing something incredibly stupid that causes her team to lose.
Don't understand why Black Panther is DLC. He's very popular, with the teaser trailer for the new BP movie doing 89 million views in the first 24 hours and being a major player in Civil War. I think this has more to do with the division behind Marvel Games (Marvel Entertainment) and their CEO Issac Perlmutter not giving much of a fuck about diversity.
Marvel could have used Scarlet Witch, and they could have even thrown in Jessica Jones or Quake. Ghost Rider is in the game, and that incarnation of the character was only in the MCU for literally two seconds on Agents of SHIELD.
Karsticles
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Looks like Dormammu is taking him from behind and thoroughly enjoying himself.4 Women, No predominate people of colour, but
Two dudes with flame heads
A hell of a lot of people watched Civil War.
The roster for this game just all-around blows.
The lack of females is really obnoxious, they had more to use from MvC3 if they wanted to recycle.
You probably want more than 4 out 30 to be women.
The lack of females is really obnoxious, they had more to use from MvC3 if they wanted to recycle.
You probably want more than 4 out 30 to be women.
No, he's DLC because he's popular. They know people will pay extra for him.
Stone Ocean
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You could argue the same about the Guardians and look where they are now.
As said above, Civil War spent a good time introducing T'Challa. People know who he is.
I'd say this is the most blatant reason
Half that shit is a repack of stuff we already got like five years ago.
Mass Effect
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Everyone looks so soulless.
That assumes that people are actually going to buy the game.
Only if he was more popular than Dormammu or Nova, then maybe he could have gotten in on the base roster
She's not in any of the trailers but was confirmed by GameInformer:
Later when asked if she had dialogue, GAFfer from GI said:
And later when asked how she looked they responded:
Referring to this:
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Not like this, definitely. Everyone has different ideas of what a diverse roster looks like, but most can agree this is not it.
Heart of Black
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Game companies need to stop selling black people as DLC
Where's
They weren't the last game
So nowhere
Asset reuse
They might be dlc
Also those characters are popular, and people will buy them. You think anyone is gonna buy Firebrand?
JeTmAn81
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I can't see them getting picked over more popular movie characters
I can see luke and daredevil def getting DLC love
llien
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But it's not only about gender (which is rather easy, I'd say 50%). Race question is more important as it's harder to get the answer.
If everyone has his/her own idea of what balanced from diversity perspective roster looks like, it means no matter what you do, people will claim you got it wrong.
Why can't game devs get guidelines on what the right ratio would be?
Nah, she trips and supers herself.
And a hell of a lot of people watched Logan/all the xmen movies. Capcom's logic is great,
Eh he has his own series of games, that are certainly way better than the Bionic Commando reboot. Not a great character perhaps but far from the worst on the list
ElBoxyBrown
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Almost everyone can agree Tekken is, and has always been, taking the right approach when it comes to diversity.
That "Capcom logic" is less that and more "Well, we can't throw Marvel Entertainment under a bus, says something quick!"
Much obliged. A Rathalos armor/weapon set works well enough, and they'll probably sell ones based on other monsters as DLC anyway.
why do you think he isn't on this game? Capcom probably didn't want to deal with his shit again lol.
SENPAIatLARGE
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Defenders comes out tomorrow and iron fist isn't even in the game. There is 0 brand synergy in this project.
Foxy the Fox
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Yeah, is weird when MVC3 had lots of women on all sides.
They should've included Blackwidow with the Jill Moveset.
They should've included Blackwidow with the Jill Moveset.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Disney dictates who goes in on the Marvel side and now it has to be MCU
re_fan1996
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lol it totally does!
Black Widow, Quake, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Wasp, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Jiaying, Robbie Reyes, Madam Masque, Tina Minoru, Sister Grimm, Gertrude and Old Lace, Cloak & Dagger, Squirrel Girl, Night Trasher...
You wanna talk brand synergy? Look at the Capcom side. No new characters from Re7 or SFV, which were basically the only two new console games that Capcom have put out this gen.
I was about to mention that. With everything else that Marvel has to offer that's sure a boring choice.4 Women, No predominate people of colour, but
Two dudes with flame heads
I also don't quite get why they limit it to MCU characters but then don't make them look like in the MCU
Widow over Gamora is weird but Gamora feels the same role to Capcom I guess.
Also, everyone else isn't out yet or Gamora fills that spot.
Scarlet Witch also gets the middle finger.
SuperBlank
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Tbh i just want more new characters, they can be of whatever race or gender they want.
Where does Gamora fill in Quake's seismic abilities, or Wasp's size changing and flying or the Minoru's magic powers, or Luke Cage's slow unmovable brawler style, Colleen's martial arts and sword skills, or Misty's marksmanship, pure gumption and bionic arm?
Capcom: We added women to the roster!
Yeah, it's a shit deal. Gamora and Carol to Cap seems like they did all they could do budget wise.
Tavernacle12
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Race ratio would differ depending on the game and whether or not it's original, a crossover, based on other properties, or a sequel to an earlier fighting game. If you want a hard and fast rule, you'd base the roster on the statistical percentage of each race in whatever environment the game takes place in, but that's not really something anyone would look into realistically.
Generally speaking, you want to represent as many broad groups as possible within reason for what the game is. A game with a large roster should absolutely have reasonable diversity to it depending on what it's setting is. For example, Smash Bros doesn't get a lot of shit for lack of diversity because there's very little to pull from in the games the roster is made from anyways. Street Fighter should have a lot of groups represented due to being a global tournament, same as DOA (the former succeeds better than the latter). Soul Calibur SHOULD have more diversity than it does, as over five games there's a grand total of maybe two playable non-white/asian characters despite the historical settings having plenty. Injustice tries to have fun picking a diverse roster from the more prominent heroes, and while they could represent more (Katanna or Lady Shiva would be fun additions), they do a good enough job it isn't an issue (and they have premium skins for people like Jon Stewart and Vixen).
Where MvC fails is that it's nowhere near where it should be either on race or sex. Both sides have a metric ton of popular female characters, and yet each side only gets two. Street Fighter has a ton diverse characters and yet none of them make it into the game. Marvel has a ton of prominent minority characters, and none of them make it into the game. The roster is large enough for them, and yet less important characters got in instead.
King Tubby
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It'd be nice if, out of a cast of 30, at least one person were black or brown. Oh wait, we did get one. You just gotta pay extra for him.
I guess if I wanna see someone who looks like myself in this game, I should light myself on fire. Or be horribly affected by pigment-altering radiation. Or...a raccoon. All of these are more plausible than someone with a decent amount of melanin.
It's not like I'm calling for a boycott of the game, but you know what, it matters to my purchasing decision. There's a lot of video games out on the market, this is one more factor in justifying skipping this one.
Shit, even Smash Bros at least has Mr. Game & Watch.
NipplesAndToes23
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For the Capcom side lol at any characters that aren't white or Asian, but they do have a lot of female characters. Marvel on the other hand I think wants to represent what's popular in their space right now, but there's no Black Panther in there and no Ms. Marvel. I see that Dormammu and Ghost Rider are in there over the Netflix MCU lineup, Ghost Rider doesn't even have his own show and Dormammu was barely in the Dr. Strange movie. Marvel could just put in the good shit we won't be they didn't.
I'm not too bothered by this game anyway because I disliked 3 and DBZ FighterZ looks way better than this one.
I'm not too bothered by this game anyway because I disliked 3 and DBZ FighterZ looks way better than this one.
BackwardCap
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They probably prioritized roles for the cinematic story mode when picking the roster.
It's definitely an issue especially when you have wasted a slot in zero when Megaman has already been included...
I think the sex issue is worse than the race one. I counted 18 very diverse females in mvc2 so it's a bit embarrassing there's only 4 here. Hell even if you take out the Xmen women which Marvel seems to have an issue with the IP, there are freaken 13 alone that were on Capcom side.
They should have included characters like dhalsim amingo, anakaris.
I think the sex issue is worse than the race one. I counted 18 very diverse females in mvc2 so it's a bit embarrassing there's only 4 here. Hell even if you take out the Xmen women which Marvel seems to have an issue with the IP, there are freaken 13 alone that were on Capcom side.
They should have included characters like dhalsim amingo, anakaris.
Turbanator
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You think the roster complaints are bad now?
In order, Dormmamu and Ghost Rider are cool as shit, so I don't know what you mean by boring.
As for the last part, so they can sell different versions of the characters to people, toys, video games ect. Your universes can't all look the same but you need to be selling the same or simular characters to get people in engage with the brand. And so you can also eventually sell merchandise of different things to the same people
AT LEAST Dhalsim.
I mean the choices habe been bad. They should have replaced zero (or Megaman), Chris redfield lmao (change to jill) and why the hell is frank included? I mean scraping the bottom of the barrel there.
They shot themselves in the foot for not including the Xmen cast.
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I can only name like half of those characters.
Dhalsim isn't exactly that popular. You want diversity, there's always Rashid.
As for the X-Men, read the MvCI thread's OP. Capcom isn't at fault for that situation.
Like Wolverine, I'm sure Capcom would add Storm if they could.
...Including the protagonist of Capcom's sixth best-selling series is scraping the bottom of the barrel?
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