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Who's more likely to die in Avengers 4? Iron Man or Cap?
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Psychoward
Banned
Or some people don't like watching multiple formulaic movies from the same universe every year?
SolidusDave
Member
These are kids movies. If they didn't kill either (well, ANYONE) in Civil War, they won't do it in Avengers.
Well, I can see a scenario where Thanos kills one or more, but in the second movie they bring them back via magic/time travel/willpower etc.
At the end, they will "retire" and for the next MCU phase with fresh people they will only do cameos or conveniently "are not available" to rescue the world.
Or fall through some dimension hole instead of actually dying.
Well, I can see a scenario where Thanos kills one or more, but in the second movie they bring them back via magic/time travel/willpower etc.
At the end, they will "retire" and for the next MCU phase with fresh people they will only do cameos or conveniently "are not available" to rescue the world.
Or fall through some dimension hole instead of actually dying.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
didn't Chris Evans just sign on for 1 additional movie past Avengers 4?
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Iron Man will upload his mind and become the new Jarvis
Cap dies but in the most glorious of ways that will be remembered always.
Vision. Dead
Rhody. Dead
Nick Fury. Dead
Phil Coulson. Dead (again)
Drax. Dead
Cap dies but in the most glorious of ways that will be remembered always.
Vision. Dead
Rhody. Dead
Nick Fury. Dead
Phil Coulson. Dead (again)
Drax. Dead
autumnleaf
Member
Steve can't die because we're going to get this moment on the big screen
I hate that Whedon had Vision lift the hammer. And I can imagine he gave himself the biggest pat on the back for it because people wanted to see Cap do it. Ugh.
LordOfLore
Banned
No, he signed on for A4.
The Real Napsta
Member
Not liking something and not being able to keep up are two different things.
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
I wouldnt mind if they both died but Tony Stark created an AI version of himself and he could still help out through the AI and voice acting.
Strangelove77
Member
Steve can't die because we're going to get this moment on the big screen
Too bad Age Of Ultron ruined this. It would have been great.
GitarooMan
Member
I think cap dies in Avengers 3 and returns in 4.
Nah, watching Captain America with Mjolnir in one hand and his shield in the another will still be hype.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Both and replaced by black women
Username1198
Member
Hope everyone dies?
Or Hickmans incursion run or whatever it was called that led to secret wars 2? Cause that's what I wanna see.
I just want a post credits scene of Reed being a dick
Not everyone dying. Although like 3 characters are probably gonna die being Tony, Scarlet Witch, and Cap
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
If I were to bet, I would say Cap dies. Downey will hang around for a while in a more secondary role.
CadetMahoney
Member
iron man, he's visibly older and more likely to want out on a high.
Certinty
Member
Pretty sure Cap will die. Probably while wielding Thor's hammer killing Thanos or saving some other Avengers.
I think they'll just semi-retire Iron Man. Have him around for Phase 4 but not as a main or anything. Would be suicide to kill him completely given he is the face of the MCU.
I think they'll just semi-retire Iron Man. Have him around for Phase 4 but not as a main or anything. Would be suicide to kill him completely given he is the face of the MCU.
Didn't Stan already tease himself in a picture with the shield? Also I think Cap gave up the shield after Civil War so...we'll see if this is permanent though.
Username1198
Member
Man, I'd love to see zombie FF. Zombie reed is best reed. Or even The Maker would be dope.
what i hope they do is show the relationship between Vision & Wanda grow a bit in IW. show him becoming more 'human' - with everything that entails.
then he attempts to lift the hammer again in the movie, but can't.
when Cap lifts it in the finale, it'll be super hype
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
I'd say both. Or they will just kill Cap and keep Iron Man for CW2 
Wasn't the reason they killed
to stop people saying "Marvel doesn't kill any of their heroes!" and shock value? And yet here everyone seems to forget him...
Wasn't the reason they killed
Quicksilver
Ah yes, that's how they should do it.
Maybe tie in him feeling guilty about what happened to Rhodey, wondering if it was fully an accident, or if his heart was in the other team.
Have him swagger up to Mjolnir, try to lift it, and fail.
Then give him one final chance to glance at Scarlet Witch before Thanos grabs him by the head, crushes it, and opens his palm to show the final infinity gem.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They coulda been. But they're not. Nobody making movies out of superheroes wants to make those movies for kids & families. They don't give a fuck about any of that.
Diprosalic
Banned
They will soon.
Star Wars movies are for kids too.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Apparently Homecoming is great for the whole family so that's something.
Diprosalic
Banned
I'll take a bet that at least 1 avenger dies for good in A3 or 4.
4 did. Well he came back on a tv series.
Edit:
Cap. They have set up two possible successors and Chris Evans has wanted to direct or something. Meanwhile RDJ is the secret sauce of the MCU, added to both Civil War and Homecoming.
it would be a great way to retroactively justify the scene in Age of Ultron
I think Rhodey is dead too
My thoughts exactly.
Malmorian
Member
I can see that, yeah. OR that he ends up needing the suit moreso as an exoskeleton to help him walk, since IM is apparently cured due to Extremis and doesn't need to suit to live any longer. BTW, was it ever mentioned why they didn't use Extremis to heal Rhodey?
Cap.
We already have Bucky and Falcon to carry on the mantle. Cap can pick up the hammer, giving everyone the moment we all want, beat the hell out of Thanos with it and then sacrifice himself to ensure the final blow in some way that takes him out of the picture. He doesn't even have to die, they can just freeze him in time/alternate dimension/comic book stuff until Evans wants to come back for a cameo or something.
Iron Man.
RDJ costs money, a whole bunch of money. Having him drive off into the sunset after Iron Man 3 would have been the best option. The problem is that he makes money, a whole bunch of money! So it's hard to let him go. I think Marvel isn't ready to totally sever the ties yet, but Him and Cap taking the hit for the team is the best option to open up more opportunities for the roster.
Really I can see Cap, Iron Man, and Vision not making it out of this alive. They need to thin the herd a bit.
We already have Bucky and Falcon to carry on the mantle. Cap can pick up the hammer, giving everyone the moment we all want, beat the hell out of Thanos with it and then sacrifice himself to ensure the final blow in some way that takes him out of the picture. He doesn't even have to die, they can just freeze him in time/alternate dimension/comic book stuff until Evans wants to come back for a cameo or something.
Iron Man.
RDJ costs money, a whole bunch of money. Having him drive off into the sunset after Iron Man 3 would have been the best option. The problem is that he makes money, a whole bunch of money! So it's hard to let him go. I think Marvel isn't ready to totally sever the ties yet, but Him and Cap taking the hit for the team is the best option to open up more opportunities for the roster.
Really I can see Cap, Iron Man, and Vision not making it out of this alive. They need to thin the herd a bit.
friskykillface
Banned
Everyone
Then Thanos reboots the universe and says "try again"
Female Thor
Female iron man
Bucky captain
Etc
Then Thanos reboots the universe and says "try again"
Female Thor
Female iron man
Bucky captain
Etc
Cap. Chris Evans sounds pretty done with role. Stark will survive. If the next phase falters you can RDJ a truck of cash for Ironman 4. Thor I could see dying. Move all the space stuff to guardians and add a Nova movie. Plus passing on caps shield to Bucky would make a great storyline. I could widow dying too.
The only way Iron Man is going to die is if Robert Downey Jr has finally decided he's made enough money. He's expensive, but Marvel will keep signing his checks as long as he wants considering his popularity.
Cap's probably gonna bite it soon.
At least we got Incredibles II on the way.
That is going to make so much money.
Cap's probably gonna bite it soon.
At least we got Incredibles II on the way.
That is going to make so much money.
Malmorian
Member
That...would be awesome
While the shipper in me would love that, I doubt it. Considering Evans' contract is up after Avengers 4 (I believe?) and he's mentioned being tired of the role for awhile, it's going to be Cap. I see Iron Man retiring or somehow being incapacitated, but not outright killed off.
Gonna be sad when Cap dies, though. I really liked this version of him...
i keep seeing this theory pop up and i really don't get it
rebooting the universe to introduce recasted avengers is WAY clunkier than naturally progressing to new heroes
bucky cap will happen, but they are going to push captain marvel, black panther, dr strange, spidey & the wasp - not thor/hulk/cap/iron man