Tekken being 16GB just seems excessive.
Those were the sizes for even the PS3 and 360 versions
It's uncompressed textures and video and audio
Tekken being 16GB just seems excessive.
Can USB 2.0 performance be worse than discs?
USB 2.0 has effective throughput up to 35 MB/s. Compare against 22.5 MB/s for Wii U discs. Any bottleneck would be in the hard drive read speed.
Where did you get the figure of 22.5MB/s for Wii-U discs?
Sadly, Waiting for one to upgrade from my 4GB.There is no such thing as a 64 gb card.
You're also assuming it'll be easy to transfer files from one hard drive to another though. That said, it can't be any worse than the process in the current systems... right?To people saying, "I will never need another drive" consider this, storage prices are going down over time, by the time you need more space getting that extra space might be cheaper. So by buying space you won't use until the end of next gen is short sighted. Not to mention HDDs can become unreliable over time.
It's too bad there isn't room to fit a 2.5" drive in the system (or even an SSD). Having to keep a drive around in an enclosure seems like a pain.
It's too bad there isn't room to fit a 2.5" drive in the system (or even an SSD). Having to keep a drive around in an enclosure seems like a pain.
A bit, though less of a pain than having to drag around discs.
Hrm. That's true. Depends on how many games you plan on buying too I suppose.A bit, though less of a pain than having to drag around discs.
You're also assuming it'll be easy to transfer files from one hard drive to another though. That said, it can't be any worse than the process in the current systems... right?
Satoru Iwata said:At launch, only 1 USB hard drive can be connected, but through a future update, more than 1 will be possible and you will be able to move data between them freely.
Possibly, but even by Nintendo's standards that should be a given. (if anything content will probably be locked on a per console basis not per storage)You're also assuming it'll be easy to transfer files from one hard drive to another though. That said, it can't be any worse than the process in the current systems... right?
Huh, guess I was misled about that. USB 3.0 would still be useful though, though I guess this does make installs a more legitimate option.USB 2.0 has effective throughput up to 35 MB/s. Compare against up to 22.5 MB/s for Wii U discs. Any bottleneck would be in the hard drive read speed.
"Future update"! We'll see... lolPossibly, but even by Nintendo's standards that should be a given. (if anything content will probably be locked on a per console basis not per storage)
Edit: There you go.
You'd probably be able to back-up saves on SD cards and re-download games on a new HDD at launch though. I'd be surprised if you couldn't."Future update"! We'll see... lol
So just to make sure:
We know the Wii U browser Cant download items
Have we heard ANYTHING about the Wii U's media playback? And what formats itll support?
And how will we get those files to the Wii U formatted hard drive?
How many people have filled up 500GB PS3s?
I imagine in the future Wii U games will get larger. There will probably be 50GB Wii U discs, and games will probably begin to commonly exceed 15 or 20GB.
Huh, guess I was misled about that. USB 3.0 would still be useful though, though I guess this does make installs a more legitimate option.
So just to make sure:
We know the Wii U browser Cant download items
Have we heard ANYTHING about the Wii U's media playback? And what formats itll support?
And how will we get those files to the Wii U formatted hard drive?
We know it won't play MP3s. And that it won't play CDs and DVDs.So just to make sure:
We know the Wii U browser Cant download items
Have we heard ANYTHING about the Wii U's media playback? And what formats itll support?
And how will we get those files to the Wii U formatted hard drive?
Almost, right here. A heavy game rotation means periodically I've got to go in and get rid of install data from games I don't play anymore.How many people have filled up 500GB PS3s?
Amazon Prime is streaming-only - think of it as a form of Netflix, except you can purchase the non-free movies to stream whenever you want. All the video services Nintendo announced are streaming, Nintendo hasn't announced any video services run by themselves (both Sony and Microsoft have their own video stores), and they said that TVii's DVR support is only to support other DVR's, that it itself won't work as one. So right now there is no known media support for the device that would make use of storage.People are saying no media playback but shouldnt you be able to purchase and download movies/tv via Amazon Prime or other services Nintendo releases on Tvii to the harddrive ? Correct me if I'm wrong, not really familar with prime
So for a console where we would only be able to use for downloaded games and apps, we'd literally need about 40 blu-ray discs filled to capacity (25GB) to fill up a TB. So far the largest game is 18GB and the next largest is about 7 or 8GB.
And you can't even stream over network.
Hilarious.
I've read this post 3 times and I still don't understand it.
Hmm, ok thanks for the corrections.Amazon Prime is streaming-only - think of it as a form of Netflix, except you can purchase the non-free movies to stream whenever you want. All the video services Nintendo announced are streaming, Nintendo hasn't announced any video services run by themselves (both Sony and Microsoft have their own video stores), and they said that TVii's DVR support is only to support other DVR's, that it itself won't work as one. So right now there is no known media support for the device that would make use of storage.
Nintendo is walking a fine line - they want the device to be a single controller of video entertainment, but they don't want to be a source of video entertainment (which would require constant work on their part), and they don't want to have to support people trying to stream weird video formats from their computers. They basically want to say "Here's what we made, have fun! We'll be over here making games..."
People were going to get 2TB? lol goddamn. Beyond overkill.
Forget about partitioning. As external HDDs formatted for the Wii U won't be inter-operable with PCs
To be fair here - USB2.0 sustaining above 20MB/s isn't very common, but then again Optical discs never get anywhere close to max throughput either, even before you factor in 2 order-of-magnitude slower seek times.Cheesemeister said:Compare against up to 22.5 MB/s for Wii U discs.[/URL] Any bottleneck would be in the hard drive read speed.
Couldn't see this mentioned in the thread, but bear Kryder's Law in mind. Disk space increases as years go by, while price stays the same.
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Think about how many games you're going to buy in year 1. It may be more cost effective to buy a small drive (say, 40 - 80GB) and then re-buy when you're low on space, especially with the rapidly falling prices of SSDs.[/QUOTE]
Honest question then i'm out: What would be the use of buying a SSD for the Wii U as an external drive if youre getting 1/2 - 1/20 the SSD's transfer rate because of USB 2.0?
I'm not seeing the contradiction here.
You could have two partitions on the same drive so that you can use some for the WiiU and some for a PC. Well, you can't because the Wii U uses the whole drive, but that was probably a thought some people had.I'm not seeing the contradiction here.
Nintendo originally said the system would support up to 3TB
Maybe the Wii U system utility formats the drive in a way that destroys any partition information (probably for security, to be honest).I see no reason to believe Wii U won't have partition support. I'm still buying a large one as the price difference between a 500 and 2tb drive is negligible based on usability and price per gb.
You could have two partitions on the same drive so that you can use some for the WiiU and some for a PC. Well, you can't because the Wii U uses the whole drive, but that was probably a thought some people had.
Honest question then i'm out: What would be the use of buying a SSD for the Wii U as an external drive if youre getting 1/2 - 1/20 the SSD's transfer rate because of USB 2.0?
I really don't see why anyone but a very small minority would want to do that, seems completely impractical. Hard drives are very cheap these days, getting two is a much better solution.
Well, in terms of price per gigabyte or whatever, 2tb is the "sweet spot" for 3.5" drives. I can see why someone would want to get one of those and have it serve two purposes. It's cheaper than getting two 1tb drives anyway.I really don't see why anyone but a very small minority would want to do that, seems completely impractical. Hard drives are very cheap these days, getting two is a much better solution.