You really don't understand that companies spend absurd amounts of money on things like finding out what triggers a shift between potentials and actuals? Even with the practice being entirely recognized and even celebrated? They will say and do anything they have to, to sell you. Profit motive demands it.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one StudioTan.
A little earlier in the interview...Major Nelson, in reference to "sharing" the new Halo with his off at college son
"[I can tell him] go ahead and download it if you wanna check it out"
lols
somewhere, your avatar is listening to you & just shaking his head ...
This is so weird. He's implying there it's FULL access to the game (or is he? 'i can actually check it out and play it' for how long?), like lending someone the disc - I wonder what happened between then and now?A little earlier in the interview...
Angry Joe: "If you have multiple family members at a single time, you only buy one copy and you can have up to ten...?"
Major Nelson: "No, you have to think of it as a library, kinda like exactly as it works today. If you and I are a family, you're dad, I'm the son... you buy it, I can actually check it out and play it, and.. or you can play it. So, it's concuran... think of it as who's ever playing it... one person at a time, just like today".
Kinda like exactly indeed.
This is so weird. He's implying there it's FULL access to the game (or is he? 'i can actually check it out and play it' for how long?), like lending someone the disc - I wonder what happened between then and now?
This is so weird. He's implying there it's FULL access to the game (or is he? 'i can actually check it out and play it' for how long?), like lending someone the disc - I wonder what happened between then and now?
so basically, it's the PS+ 1 hr demo, except you need a friend to own the game first?
Major Nelson, in reference to "sharing" the new Halo with his off at college son
"[I can tell him] go ahead and download it if you wanna check it out"
lols
Oh, I guess I read it as full game because of that other blurb from MS with the example of sharing a copy of Forza. So deceptive. When did they think people were going to find this stuff out? Haha.Now he isn't. "check it out" = test it. "kinda like a library" = renting a game for a certain time period.
Wow. I was disappointed yesterday after hearing that family sharing would be gone...now, I can't believe that they essentially lied to us. That is not sharing in any sense of the word. It's what Sony likes to call "extended game demo" on PS+
Oh, I'm sure he knew about the one hour limit, which is why he kind of dances all over the place when he speaks. The catch phrase to use was check it out each time the question comes up in an interview. I kinda feel bad for him, what a shitty job.This is so weird. He's implying there it's FULL access to the game (or is he? 'i can actually check it out and play it' for how long?), like lending someone the disc - I wonder what happened between then and now?
A little earlier in the interview...
Angry Joe: "If you have multiple family members at a single time, you only buy one copy and you can have up to ten...?"
Major Nelson: "No, you have to think of it as a library, kinda like exactly as it works today. If you and I are a family, you're dad, I'm the son... you buy it, I can actually check it out and play it, and.. or you can play it. So, it's concuran... think of it as who's ever playing it... one person at a time, just like today".
Kinda like exactly indeed.
I guess it's fitting that the one 'maybe positive' aspect to the Xbone to come out after that E3 clusterfuck ended up being complete fabricated rubbish, helped along by MS themselves. Zero transparency.Oh, I'm sure he knew about the one hour limit, which is why he kind of dances all over the place when he speaks. The catch phrase to use was check it out each time the question comes up in an interview. I kinda feel bad for him, what a shitty job.
My guess was that only one person could play it at a time, but when your friend or family played the game they'd be using your account. Microsoft comes out and reminds you to make sure you give it to someone you trust (like a Family Member) so they don't do something stupid and get your account banned.Man that thread. I knew there was a catch as I was saying in that thread, but I was thinking more along the lines of only one person able to play at a time kind of thing. So yeah poor naive Almighty. 20/20 makes it clear as day that even that was much too generous not just for Microsoft, but any company.
Yet in a library you can keep renewing a book until you finish it.
None what what you said means I'm not being a smart consumer. Being skeptical means you wait until you have all the facts before making a purchase and since this purchase won't be made until Nov there is plenty of time to get all the facts. Being cynical means you assume everything a company is telling you is a lie or half truth when that's simply not the case the majority of the time.
The one thing I was most looking forward to with MS's previous design for the console was being able to purchase discs and then not need them, retail became digital after install. That's the main thing I was pissed about because I've long moved away from wanting to use disc based media, however I prefer to PURCHASE disc based media and then convert it to a format where I don't need it anymore. Yes, I know I can buy all digital like I do on Steam, I just would have preferred it the other way.
But as you said, let's just agree to disagree.
.M$'s Xboner is the gift that keeps on giving. Even when they remove DRM they still find a way to piss people off.
Man if they would have allowed even this lie to be unveiled and continued course
the world would have collapsed from the sheer fail
He was always cynical but he went over the deep end near the end, watch his interview with Larry King in the mid 80s, big time conspiracy stuff, that's what a life of cynicism does for you lol.
Wow. I was disappointed yesterday after hearing that family sharing would be gone...now, I can't believe that they essentially lied to us. That is not sharing in any sense of the word. It's what Sony likes to call "extended game demo" on PS+
Lesson learned then?CompaniesMicrosoft lies all the time.
This is all just so incredible.
I really don't know how anyone thought this would happen they way they wanted it to.
In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points...
Oh I know that there were, I'm just pointing out how silly it was to ACTUALLY believe it. Microsoft has never once done anything to save us money.. why in the world would they have done something that drastic out of nowhere?
There's no way this is true. Otherwise, they wouldn't have limited it to one user accessing the shared library at a time.
Hell, they wouldn't limit it to 10 family members. What would be the point?
You guys are freaking out about something that isn't true.