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Xbox One's first year: Microsoft Studios' 15 exclusives, incl. 8 brand-new franchises
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Him or Her, It's all over the place
Well if I said to my boss I'd hit a sales target but only got ~60% of the way to it...that's what we're talking (vs Sony ~80%)
Man-is-Obsolete
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The Microsoft Studios part is what is always strange to me. They have only put out, what, 3-4 games by the end of the year made by actual MS studios, one of which is a remake collection? They have already had to find another developer to continue work on KI, Crytek is in ruins, and who knows where Insomniac goes after SO. So if the first year was supposed to fill people with confidence, I don't see it.
Nightengale
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Being excited by numbers of games in the pipeline instead of actual game announcements is pretty stupid. Most companies nowadays release a significant amount of smaller-scale digital titles to supplement the smaller and smaller roster of AAA games. Anyone could guess a sizable amount of any 'numbers game' will include smaller titles.
Not to mention one publisher releasing 15+ AAA exclusives in one year would be foolish from a business perspective. People don't have infinite money to spend on games. Without hedging your product releases, marketing, focus, etc properly, you're just inviting bombas.
But I still appreciate publishers talking about X number of games planned for the fiscal year, etc. It allows us to guesstimate and have some amount of expectation of what they have planned in terms of how many titles they have in the pipeline.
In which case you're implying MS were being clever with their wording...much like the new Tomb Raider exclusivity.
Shining Sunshine
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Meh, I don't count Ryse or DR3. As exclusive as Tomb Raider.
Especially when their PC versions came within the year of Xbone launch.
Especially when their PC versions came within the year of Xbone launch.
killer rin
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Well, considering they also make Windows, its not off base for them to see it that way. Its exclusive to Microsoft Platforms
It sure took Pikmin 3, Game & Wario, The Wonderful 101 and Wii Fit U a good while to come out, they definitely stretched the term of Launch Window. Don't know if we are on the same page, I didn't mean to defend Nintendo.
Titanfall is published by EA, Forza Horizon is mentioned plenty in the thread.
Yep and likewise including Infamous DLC as a full game, its hilarious.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Why are we arguing about the what exclusive means when we've known it means "not available on other companies consoles"...
Just because Sony and Nintendo ignore the PC market with their console games?
Shouldn't we applaud the fact that MS respects that market?
Just because Sony and Nintendo ignore the PC market with their console games?
Shouldn't we applaud the fact that MS respects that market?
Hockeymac18
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Yep, people need to better learn how to interpret. Especially since at the time, Phil was in charge of just MS studios, not the entire Xbox brand.
I honestly don't see what is so thread worthy, seems people just didn't understand the statement made by Phil.
?? you do realise TR will be out on PC & PS4 within a year
I'm not sure why I'm supposed care about this.
RespectThySole
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Forza Horizon 2
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Below
Ori
Project Spark
Titanfall
I'm sure they were including some of these titles in that number. Some got delayed and they decided to port the others to 360 or PC, it's really not that hard to figure out. You're really reaching.
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Below
Ori
Project Spark
Titanfall
I'm sure they were including some of these titles in that number. Some got delayed and they decided to port the others to 360 or PC, it's really not that hard to figure out. You're really reaching.
Is it?
Because list wars
AmuroChan
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I agree with all that. I'm talking more about existing 360 owners who are deciding which next-gen console to upgrade to. Like me for example, I have a 360. I know I can play Forza Horizon 2 and Ori on the 360. I also have PC though I don't really game on it all that much. I don't feel as much of a loss right now not having the X1 because some of these "exclusives" I can actually play on devices I already own. So I'm ok with waiting a little longer until more flagship titles like Halo 5 or Quantum Break come out next year that I know are truly exclusive to the XB1.
Shining Sunshine
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Oh yeah, that's why everyone knows it's not exclusive.
xafflictionx37
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I think you are reading too much into it....MS counts exclusives even if they are on 360 and/or PC
I'm not being "anal". I'm interpreting the quote in the context of the event it was stated which was the Xbox One REVEAL EVENT. Maybe you were being anal about my quote. And...I'm out.
Graphics Horse
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I think it's fair enough to think about which studios are free and the probable games that might be in development, but I'd much rather be shown something, or told something, anything other than a number, because I know I'd never play all of them.
Fantastical
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Well in the OP you said that they could have used the term Nintendo used ("Launch Window"). Except, Nintendo defined the launch window as ending on March 31st, 2013. All four of those games came out after that time. 2 more than half a year after launch, 1 of them almost a year after launch.
In terms of percentage of games coming after their promised dates after launch, Nintendo is the bigger "liar".
I say this because I almost made a similar thread at the end of last year about Nintendo's broken promises, and then I just realized that you should never, ever trust video game PR. Look at Nintendo promising Star Fox and Zelda in 2015. I look at those dates with a LOT of doubt. Remember when Xenoblade Chronicles X was due in 2014?
ah sorry, my reading missed out your full stop! and I read it as 'I don't count them as exclusive as Tomb Raider' lol
Crackdown is almost certainly not a 2015 title. Neither is Phantom Dust.
From reading this thread, its safe to assume MS exclusive means only on Microsoft platforms (though OP doesn't want it this way).
It's weird that there always has to be some sort of console debate within each topic when only one is listed. Please make another thread for Sony as well and we can Shit that up with quotes from this thread.
It's weird that there always has to be some sort of console debate within each topic when only one is listed. Please make another thread for Sony as well and we can Shit that up with quotes from this thread.
AmuroChan
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What's the definition of a "full game"? First Light had a retail release, does not need SS to play, and has a platinum trophy. Yes, it's a smaller $15 game, but are we saying then that games like Halo: Spartan Assault or Tomb Raider: Temple of Osiris also don't count as full games either?
Triggerhappytel
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I'm pretty sure neither MS or Sony lived up to their claims, although I don't know if they explicitly said 'Exclusive to PS4" or "Exclusive to Xbox One", so it could be that they only implied what we all assumed and so technically aren't lying.
Spottiettiedop
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Basically.
Also on PC.
But nobody can forget TV, TV, TV, sports. watercooler....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
Agreed but what company is not optimistic? When you have investors, you need to be optimistic. MS and Sony shouldn't be held to their word but I'm mostly happy if they make the effort and give me most of what I want.
Didn't they later (after the games were due) still refer to them as Launch Window titles though, because well the term itself doesn't have a date. Yes, Nintendo did a poor job on delivering, just meant that they said "window" and not "first year", therefore they made it work "more or less".
BruiserBear
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But what metric are you using to get this 60% figure? That's kind of an important part of the discussion when you want to start discussing metrics and targets.
Microsoft Studios is simply the name attached to games Microsoft publishes. Just like Sony does with a lot of indie games, etc.
As for confidence, we already know that next year the XB1 is going to have the following big releases.
Halo 5
Quantum Break
Fable Legends
Forza 6
Tomb Raider (for some period of time)
Do you really think the average XB1 owner looks at that list and is unhappy about it? Of course there are other games we're not aware of right now.
I actually think it's fair to mention First Light. It's a separate entity from Second Son.
So it was bad to release Forza Motorsport 5, you know that Forza game before Horizon 2, only for Xbox One? Exclusive games make up system sales after all.
1. Dead Rising 3
2. Forza Motorsport 5
3. Killer Instinct
4. Ryse: Son of Rome
5. Zoo Tycoon
6. Forza Horizon 2
7. Kinect Sports Rivals
8. Halo: The Master Chief Collection
9. Project Spark
10. Sunset Overdrive
11. Crimson Dragon
12. Halo: Spartan Assault
13. LocoCycle
14. Max: The Curse of Brotherhood
15. Powerstar Golf
16. D4
17. Dance Central Spotlight
18. Super Time Force
19. Ori and the Blind Forest
It seems like they delivered to me. That's more than 15 titles like they said. Exclusive doesn't have to mean only on Xbox One. When most folks use that term, you should assume it to mean it's available primarily on their platform, and not the competitors (aka Playstation). I'm pretty sure most of them don't sit down and think something isn't exclusive because they're also releasing it on Xbox 360 or PC. Not to mention, we don't know about other projects which could have potentially been setback.
2. Forza Motorsport 5
3. Killer Instinct
4. Ryse: Son of Rome
5. Zoo Tycoon
6. Forza Horizon 2
7. Kinect Sports Rivals
8. Halo: The Master Chief Collection
9. Project Spark
10. Sunset Overdrive
11. Crimson Dragon
12. Halo: Spartan Assault
13. LocoCycle
14. Max: The Curse of Brotherhood
15. Powerstar Golf
16. D4
17. Dance Central Spotlight
18. Super Time Force
19. Ori and the Blind Forest
It seems like they delivered to me. That's more than 15 titles like they said. Exclusive doesn't have to mean only on Xbox One. When most folks use that term, you should assume it to mean it's available primarily on their platform, and not the competitors (aka Playstation). I'm pretty sure most of them don't sit down and think something isn't exclusive because they're also releasing it on Xbox 360 or PC. Not to mention, we don't know about other projects which could have potentially been setback.
I can go and buy first light at retail as a standalone title, no second son necessary, kind of like ground zeroes and TPP...
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I'll need to see some evidence of them calling launch window games after they were due. Either way, they still missed their projected dates at E3 2012 (when they were basically selling their console), which is directly comparable to this topic, right? Are you saying it would be okay for Microsoft to have these games in the "launch window" more than a year after the release of the console?
And the term did have a date... March 31, 2013. It was the end of Q1 2013.
AmuroChan
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I feel like Sony generally makes that distinct. They don't attach the name SCE Worldwide Studios to all games they publish, only the ones where one of their internal studios is actually involved in. Resogun, for example, has never been mentioned as a SCE Worldwide Studios game. It's mentioned as a Housemarque game published by Sony.
Many of those are also on the PS3.
What I'm saying is if Microsoft would have made this statement without saying first year, but instead launch window (without deeper clarification) I wouldn't have made this thread.
Okay, Nintendo screwed up, I never said they didn't, and I wasn't prepared to need to reply to questions other than Microsoft, since that is what the thread is focusing on.
BruiserBear
Banned
I guess the question worth asking is, does it really matter? It seems like it only matters in the context of console warz arguments.
Super Time Force was self-published as an ID@Xbox game.
Microsoft Studios has done a great job so far though. There are a lot of promising games coming in 2015 and 2016 as well.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
In that case, time to add Killer Instinct Classic and Killer Instinct 2 Classic to the list!
Both are 1000/1000 games and are seperate from Killer Instinct.
Edit: while at it, add Happy Wars to the list
Fantastical
Death Prophet
But you mentioned in Nintendo as a good example in the original post. So... sorry for replying directly to that I guess?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
They didn't say PS4 exclusive. They said it was shipping on PS4.
Okay, I pointed them out, but again, I didn't do it without saying it wasn't smooth.
Nightengale
Member
And now we're argung semantics over differences in positioning, approach and stuff that wasn't even comparative in a proper sense to begin with.
Not a good direction, imo.
Sony never said they were PS4 exclusive, just that WWS have 20 PS4 titles planned for year one.
Not a good direction, imo.
Sony never said they were PS4 exclusive, just that WWS have 20 PS4 titles planned for year one.
Fair enough, I wasn't aware of that.
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