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[_Spr_Drnk]

It's rare I come on to post Holy Shit, but

Holy Shit!

MS really redeemed themselves with this E3 conference, some great looking games and HW release info?

Colour me impressed.

 

[Hedrush]

That's gonna be expensive as fuck.

 

[Innolis]

How much is that thing going to cost :S

 

[Delusibeta]

This puts the boots to Sony if the 4.4TF rumor is true.

If the statement that Neo is missing E3 is true, that gives Sony time for a cheeky overclock, in a similar manner to the base PS4 getting upgraded to 8Gb at the eleventh hour.

 

[Raven117]

There is no doubt that Microsoft threw the Xbox One under the bus a bit.

 

[BKG]

kinda dumb to reveal two consoles and have one blatantly better than the other lol

2 very different demographics...slim is for people who haven't jumped in yet, Scorpio is clearly for the hardcore elites

 

[Colonel Nasty]

So thats like what? 4 Xbox Ones? 2 PS4s?

Need to know in laymen terms please.

Four X1s
Three and a third PS4s
One and a half Neos

 

[Compsiox]

Impressive, but I feel right this second SONY are upping their specs.

A year isn't enough to make a significant improvement

 

[iavi]

There whole conference felt like they were on the scorpio wagon... even last year too

It feels like MS has checked out on the One tbh. The early showing of Scorpio, the focus on Win10. The One's getting the OG Xbox treatment, which is whatevs if they go all in fresh on the Scorpio like they did when they launched the 360. They know they lost this round

 

[Freeman]

It just sounds risky to relly so much on being the more powerful console and hanging on the 6teraflops.

Announcing it possibly 1,5 half years before releasing is also crazy.

 

[iMax]

They were showing a prototype.

"We have nothing to share right now, but don't buy the NEO!! This will be better! Promise!"

I believe the rumours for Scorpio have been going on longer than Neo, FWIW.

 

[Always-honest]

It's $299 bruh.

Not if you actually want to control games

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

It's not for those people the games will be on Windows 10 too

This is the main thing. Scorpio is great if games were only available to play on it, however, MS went the opposite direction by making no game only playable on Xbox.

I think Sony still holds advantage, by

1: releasing in spring 2017

2: having exclusive (not on PC) games

 

[esmith08734]

Damn, Microsoft really held back for a few years and now they're serving some serious crow.

 

[duhmetree]

I dont get Microsoft. Why would I buy an Xbox S now? I'm going to assume sales will slow down considerably.

With all your exclusives on Windows 10 now, a decent amount of people will move to PC.

I don't get the business strategy.

 

[m_shortpants]

I guess they tried their best to work with what they had from Don Mattrick, but at the end of the day new hardware was the only solution.

 

[aygomyownroad]

Interesting to see the PS4 Neo now.

Microsoft has had a very good conference

 

[Plywood]

A trillions floating point operations per second. Not the best measurement for performance, but it works.

Gonna need more laymans for this.

 

[qa_engineer]

I'm guess 499.99. Not interested in any Xbox One games or products but they had a good showing. Lots of games. Xbox one gamers should be pretty happy/

 

[HawksWinStanley]

I guess it will be quite expensive because of the dedicated GPU that was shown for a second. It will not just have an APU and Sony needs to upgrade the PS4 Neo now.

Is this why they decided they weren't going to show it at E3?

 

[GHG]

Why don't leave Xbox one behind? What use of 6tf when your game design dragging down by Xbox one?

Because by doing that you are leaving people who can't afford this behind.

It's high risk for developers to develop exclusively for a new platform with 0 userbase.

 

[jonno394]

as mentioned in the E3 thread, we know it's backwards compatible, but did they say everything on scorpio will play on XBox One (like Sony are apparently doing in with the ps4/neo)?

 

[Conduit]

I wonder how bad Xbone sales will tank now.

We will see soon in next few NPDs. Curious to see preorder chart for Xbone S on Amazon.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Very nice specs but man the date is so far away also waiting for price .

 

[Darkroronoa]

By 2017 they will be able to sell it at 400-450$

 

[StylesClash]

It's $299 bruh.

That's the 500 GB model. Not the 2TB.

 

[AngelOFDeath]

GAF didn't crash, I am not impressed

 

[Leonsito]

They know that the rumored Neo was weaker, and I'm sure they know Sony will up the specs, that's why the 18 month wait to release, to counter-up them lol

 

[Barryman]

Either console gaming has jumped the shark, or Microsoft's involvement in it has.

 

[terrible]

So here's the plan.

Sell my Xbox One, play everything on the PC in the meantime and see if this bad boy is worth the asking price at the time of launch.

Exactly.

 

[Dictator93]

So is 6TF the number for the entire system added together or just the GPU?

It would be nice to know what CPU that is...

1070 that cost 500$

NV flops do not = AMD flops in real world perf

 

[GameAddict411]

I wonder how Sony will react to this. They might just stick with the current NEO specs but that will leave them with a huge disadvantage.

 

[Guevara]

Gonna be a weird and long 18 months.

 

[brokenbeans]

Impressive, but I feel right this second SONY are upping their specs.

Then the price rises.

 

[menacin]

Sony, update your Neo specs and get a trailer ready for tonight! MS is bringing the heat this go 'round sounds like.

sony plan all along... let everyone know ps4 neo is a thing to get microsoft to react and then bam counterreact.

 

[Zedox]

Wow. I still can't believe they actually announced the specs SO FUCKING EARLY?!?!?!

 

[FATALITY]

2017? Why announcing now. I hope Sony don't waste their time with that neo shit

 

[iceatcs]

Is it 6Tflops bit low at the end of 2017?

Shouldn't any problem with lower price.

 

[FireBeaver]

It's called the Xbox Scorpio because it will cut sales of OG Xbox One's in half.

 

[rakkadakka]

It's not odd if you consider their competitor is coming out with a new box this year and is likely into the late stages of production.

Sony might be able to up the power on it but not to match the Scorpio at this point.

So Sony comes out with something this year and MS is letting you know that if power is your concern that they will have the answer if you can wait.

 

[Philippo]

How realistic is Scoprio for 399$ by Holiday 2017?

 

[mario_O]

Console cycles are going crazy. It's time to move to PC for good.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

That was MS' best E3 show in a very long time and the reveal of Scorpio was a nice cherry on top. Too bad it's a year and a half away, but I'm sure it will be nice.

 

[jelly]

4K is a bit wasteful. Go for something less and really do nice stuff.

I guess Sony is going to delay and ask AMD for the same stuff?

 

[Zukkoyaki]

I think they handled it very tastefully and the crowd seemed to be into it. I'm ready to learn more!

 

[jet1911]

No thanks, not at the price it is going to be.

In Canada. Lol.

I hope the dollar will be better than it is now in a year and a half lol.

4K is a bit wasteful. Go for something less and really do nice stuff.

I guess Sony is going to delay and ask AMD for the same stuff?

If they really want to delay.

 

[Instro]

What PC video cards does 6 TFLOPS compare to? 970 GTX?

Well since it's AMD, you would look at something like the 390 or 390x basically. You can get 4k at 30fps out of that for the most part.

 

[mjontrix]

Zen = CPU
GPU = Vega?

MS bringing the big Guns

Beefed up Polaris.

Vega is far too expensive to implement due to HBM2.

Still will be a huge boost - Vulkan/DX12 is going to shine!

Polaris small die size so the price I'd estimate $449 or $399 if the yields are solid by then.

 

[Nobility]

People are going to be poor in Q4 2017.

Sony has no choice but to respond.

 

[Gaz_RB]

Why don't leave Xbox one behind? What use of 6tf when your game design dragging down by Xbox one?

Yup, kind of what I'm worried about too. We won't be getting new experiences, we'll just be getting the same types with higher resolution.

Like... At what point do they leave the Xbox One behind? What will the landscape look like in 5 years? Seems like they're boxing themselves in here. Really interested in what Sony will do.