burgerdog said:It will never change, unless they reduce the disc speed.
Actually, I heard different drives produce different noise, with one of them being very silent. Ok, so no going for a single retailer of them still?
burgerdog said:It will never change, unless they reduce the disc speed.
In the NPD thread - Yes. In real life - not really.Guybrush Threepwood said:Would dropping the Arcade's price under $250 (cost of the Wii) have any effect at all?
MirageDwarf said:$50 is not gonna make any major difference.
Dark FaZe said:300$ for a 360 premium?
Absolutely no excuse not to pick one of these up. The software selection is really good and the new hardware changes are fairly solid as well.
IIRC, it bumped sales last year by ~100k.MirageDwarf said:$50 is not gonna make any major difference.
Add a Waggle Wand and Deca Sports to each one, and there might be something there.omg rite said:It needs to be:
$249.99 - Arcade ($30 drop)
$299.99 - Premium ($50 drop)
$379.99 - Elite ($70 drop)
later said:Buying XBL, buying wireless...
Chiggs said:I can think of a few reasons not to. Here's one of them:
Screwed over warranty-wise by Microsoft on my last two 360's right before their big RRoD announcement and treated like crap by tech support.
Was it long term? What I am saying is there will be temporary bump only.GhaleonEB said:IIRC, it bumped sales last year by ~100k.
Xyphie said:Buying bluetooth headset, buying non-gimped controller...
Chiggs said:I can think of a few reasons not to. Here's one of them:
Screwed over warranty-wise by Microsoft on my last two 360's right before their big RRoD announcement and treated like crap by tech support.
That sounds about right, but I have to say I expected the price cut to be $100 for the Pro unit.omg rite said:It needs to be:
$249.99 - Arcade ($30 drop)
$299.99 - Premium ($50 drop)
$379.99 - Elite ($70 drop)
Its the week before E3.Dax01 said:Excellent news. The timing strange, though.
Chiggs said:Screwed over warranty-wise by Microsoft on my last two 360's right before their big RRoD announcement and treated like crap by tech support.
MirageDwarf said:$50 is not gonna make any major difference.
MirageDwarf said:Was it long term? What I am saying is there will be temporary bump only.
It could be just me but 360 looks overpriced to me for what it offers at current price point plus what you have to pay for other services and accessories.
TheMan said:pretty much. 300 seems like a good price to people with lots of money and to kids who live at home and don't pay bills, but for the rest of the world, 300 is still a lot of money for a console. Gas prices are insane and affect everything else; just the other day there was a story on cnn about a gallon of milk costing something like 7 dollars (!!!) in hawaii. Obviously that's just one state but nontheless, magic pricepoint is gonna prolly be 200 dollars.
Yes, but the price cut impact is hard to seperate out. Sales were up sequentially, with the cut in August and a certain game coming out in September.MirageDwarf said:Was it long term? What I am saying is there will be temporary bump only.
It could be just me but 360 looks overpriced to me for what it offers at current price point plus what you have to pay for other services and accessories. I'm not talking about game library.
TheMan said:pretty much. 300 seems like a good price to people with lots of money and to kids who live at home and don't pay bills, but for the rest of the world, 300 is still a lot of money for a console. Gas prices are insane and affect everything else; just the other day there was a story on cnn about a gallon of milk costing something like 7 dollars (!!!) in hawaii. Obviously that's just one state but nontheless, magic pricepoint is gonna prolly be 200 dollars.
Oh...I agree. Wii is overpriced from day one.zaidr said:Wii says hai.
...And yes, don't jump down my throat - I know how supply and demand works, but from a purely hardware and services standpoint, its overpriced.
Mrbob said:No one else finds it odd only the 20GB pro is listed with its price cut?
So let us take guesses now. Will the incoming 60GB premium still be $349 or less? My guess is it will be $329, since MS won't want to annoy everyone who buys a 20GB pro. But they probably will anyway once they find out the 60GB system is incoming for a little more cash.
Mrbob said:No one else finds it odd only the 20GB pro is listed with its price cut?
So let us take guesses now. Will the incoming 60GB premium still be $349 or less? My guess is it will be $329, since MS won't want to annoy everyone who buys a 20GB pro. But they probably will anyway once they find out the 60GB system is incoming for a little more cash.
Mrbob said:No one else finds it odd only the 20GB pro is listed with its price cut?
So let us take guesses now. Will the incoming 60GB premium still be $349 or less? My guess is it will be $329, since MS won't want to annoy everyone who buys a 20GB pro. But they probably will anyway once they find out the 60GB system is incoming for a little more cash.
Dark FaZe said:300$ for a 360 premium?
Absolutely no excuse not to pick one of these up. The software selection is really good and the new hardware changes are fairly solid as well.
I think this will be the 360's last price drop myself. If guys don't eat this up then its because they just don't want it for whatever reason. The price, hardware, and software is absolutely there at this point.
Kagari said:60GB Pro? Is there any proof behind that?
Tron 2.0 said:What odd timing.
My first thought is that they should have done this before GTA4, not after. I can't pretend to know what they're thinking, but I would imagine that they weren't expecting to have to drop the price because there would be excessive demand due to the release of GTA4. When that didn't exactly go according to plan, they turned to a price drop to drive hardware sales.
Mrbob said:No one else finds it odd only the 20GB pro is listed with its price cut?
So let us take guesses now. Will the incoming 60GB premium still be $349 or less? My guess is it will be $329, since MS won't want to annoy everyone who buys a 20GB pro. But they probably will anyway once they find out the 60GB system is incoming for a little more cash.
luxarific said:
Actually we're coming up to Christmas #4.sionyboy said:So, I'm guessing a $50 price drop ahead of E3 and to stimulate some demand over the summer, and then another $50 to see in Q4 and Jasper.
That would make the most amount of sense anyway, although for its third Christmas you'd really expect it to be $199. But then, these are harder times I guess.
I won't correct the math here, but this line gave me a chuckle.zaidr said:Xbox tech support (or specifically, xbox support in general) is a really weird dichotomy... They have got to have at least two different support stations, and if you looked hard enough, theres probably an forum/website that lists when to call to get through to someone coherent...
When the first price cut was leaked, we only knew of the Pro cut as well.Mrbob said:No one else finds it odd only the 20GB pro is listed with its price cut?
So let us take guesses now. Will the incoming 60GB premium still be $349 or less? My guess is it will be $329, since MS won't want to annoy everyone who buys a 20GB pro. But they probably will anyway once they find out the 60GB system is incoming for a little more cash.
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/07/e3-interview--1.htmlWN: Wouldn't this be a great time, then, to announce an Xbox 360 price cut? Why no price cut at E3?
SK: I think July is a terrible time to announce a price cut. Forget about E3. There's no business that gets done. Consumers are not buying a lot of consoles in July, or in August for that matter. The bulk of the business gets done in the holiday, the last three months of the year. Spring is the other big "season." A price cut in July is very, very odd. So we don't feel any pressure to announce any price cut here because of what Sony did. Sony has their own problems and they're trying to address it in their own way. That's up to them. To announce a price cut eight months into the lifecycle of a console is pretty unusual. That to me signifies some concern.
B-Rad Lascelle said:Actually we're coming up to Christmas #4.
2005 - Perfect Dark Zero
2006 - Gears of War
2007 - Halo 3
2008 - Gears of War 2
_leech_ said:$300 for a Premium, nice. Note to Microsoft: REMEMBER CANADIAN PARITY.
Tron 2.0 said:What odd timing.
Is it really that much odder than last year's early-August drop?Dax01 said:Excellent news. The timing strange, though.
So after a 2 year wait for the first drop, and a 1 year wait for the second drop... you think the next will come in a few months? At least if the periods between drops keep halving then by the end of the year it will be free.sionyboy said:So, I'm guessing a $50 price drop ahead of E3 and to stimulate some demand over the summer, and then another $50 to see in Q4 and Jasper.
burgerdog said:This is exactly what I was thinking, the fools probably thought: NO NEED TO DROP THE PRICE, GTA will drive massive sales because of our exclusive content! Epic fucking failure, a reduced price drop and gta would have truly done something.