Heh, I wouldn't pay much attention to that comment if I were you guys. Besides the ones trying to be SUPER HARDCORE (and here I don't mean gameplay but gory/"mature" presentation and the like), the "we're aiming for the entire family to be able to enjoy this" statement has been made regarding basically every game released on the Wii.EDarkness said:
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Crystal Bearers E3 Trailer
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Fuu said:
But that statement makes me think that's why they don't allow leveling and such. To keep it relatively simple for people to understand. Watching that interview just makes me think we're getting a dumbed down experience because it's not really a game made for the "core" gamers who really play Final Fantasy games. Why the hell would they want your grandmother to play the game in the first place. It's such a poor criteria to place on an RPG.
It's an action adventure though, even SE is calling it that now and they usually call every one of their games a RPG or an action RPG. People have been saying it's a Zelda-like game too. It's not a regular FF RPG by any means.EDarkness said:
Many games aim to please all ages, this is not a bad thing (when done right).
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
The demo begins with that sky shooting segment so most likely they just stopped playing the demo right after that.markatisu said:
donkey show
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The cutscenes are pretty long in the demo so it put off a lot of people. The sky shooting segment was fucking awesome to start off with though. I'd say my favorite part about the game was heading into town and picking up rich looking people and having their Gil fall out for me to take. :lolgrandjedi6 said:
It's also pretty cool how the townsfolk reacts to certain actions you happen to make. Save a guy who's stuck under something and people start to follow you with hearts over their heads. Shake the train you're riding on and everyone runs to the opposite side of the cabin all scared of you.
Fuu said:
Oh, I understand the game is an adventure game in the same vein as Zelda. I have no problems with that. It's just not really Square's style. So that's not a strike against them in my eyes.
That said, the idea that they want this to be a game that my grandmother would play and be able to get into just tells me that maybe they made some sacrifices in their vision so that they could hit that goal. Sure, some games are all about being accessible, but I doubt Square would say that they wanted Final Fantasy 13 to be playable by my grandmother. That's not the target audience for that game. It just troubles me that this game wasn't met with the same focus.
darkhunger
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What? Its a game where you pick people and objects up with the Wiimote and throw them. Its not meant to be an overly complicated game in the first place. When the game is about throwing things, there's really no point in leveling up either.EDarkness said:
That's just the design of the game. They wanted to make something that utilize the controls that the Wii offers. Those controls happen to be simple. The resulting game also happens to be simple. If it means grandma can now play it, who cares? This is obvious not a typical Final Fantasy game.
IGN has posted 3 off screen gameplay videos from the demo, 1 in the city, 2 from the on rails chocobo sequence:
E3 2009: Tossing Culp (Off Screen)
E3 2009: Force Pushing (Off Screen)
E3 2009: Swatting Away (Off Screen)
E3 2009: Tossing Culp (Off Screen)
E3 2009: Force Pushing (Off Screen)
E3 2009: Swatting Away (Off Screen)
:loldonkey show said:
EDarkness said:
Seriously. At this point in the race when someone starts talking about your grandma being able to play the game red flags should pop up immediately. Now maybe that was a poor translation or something, but until someone proves that the game wasn't compromised it has dropped off my list.
Scrubking said:
Guilty till proven innocent, what a way to live.
It's a Zelda-esque game. Even Nintendo has been making their Zelda games more accessible, so when SE follows suits with a game that combine Zelda elements with a neat overworld and cool Force Unleashed powers, you run for the hills at the slightest sign of accessibility? Rewarding Nintendo for a certain behavior and then bashing their third-party developers for following suit. It's ridiculous.
Scrubking said:
Come one. Does this look like a game that your grandmother would play? He's obviously trying to jump onto the "Wii is for everyone!" theme of E3. Grandma isn't gonna play Zelda, she isn't gonna play TCB. No one's impressions have made it seem this way. I really wouldn't worry about it that much.
donkey show
Member
Oh yeah, just wanted to mention that if you're trying to target something (object, person, etc.) and something else gets in the way, you'll automatically target them instead. This got kind of annoying during the 1st minigame where you're chasing the ferret in town.
Fuu said:
Here's one*.
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-09-hands-on-with-final-fantasy-crystal-bearers-134824.phtml
*Discalimer
Destructoid is a shitty fanboy sight.
story-heavy wagglefest lolololScrubking said:
Pointer = waggle after all. Official thread shall be titled "The Official Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers thread of poor man's Zelda story-heavy wagglefest on Dreamcast for grandparents".
I don't think people should judge the difficulty of the game by the demo, it's the start of the game after all. But again, they shouldn't have used the cutscene heavy entire intro for a demo instead of a controlled enviroment to show Layle's abilities. Even if that's the case, I don't mind easy games as long as they're fun.
Cow Mengde
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BorkBork said:
Hey, people at neogaf can judge the entire game from a 2 minute trailer
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Came to post this. About time they got it up. Sounds good!schuelma said:
Game seems like it will be really varied and full of little things.schuelma said:
Lack of variation was/is my biggest worry about this one but this part along donkey show's impressions (stealing Gil from rich townsfolk, people in the train scared of you, ferret chasing) and the different "action scenes" (onrailslol) are making me exepct lots of different stuff to pull. And that's not even taking monster reactions in consideration.Bozon said:
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Yeah, I just realized that they didn't even show direct combat with monsters in the demo. :lol
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Fuu said:C'mon people, this trailer does have a weird image quality but we all know the game looks nice from other videos and direct feed screens. And even if you haven't been seeing the released media, what was the last SE game that didn't look great for the system it was on? This should go without saying, they rarely underdeliver on the visual presentation.
Anyway, what we know of the gameplay, scope and ideas is ace. Can't wait for impressions on the playable E3 build.
That's what I was thinking when watching the trailer. All the other videos of the game looked awesome.
APZonerunner
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Yeah. I had a private hands-on with this, and an interview with the director, who was lovely. Will be online late next week, I'll post a link.
Justin Bailey
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Do we know anything about the multiplayer? Is it local Secret of Mana style?
EmCeeGramr
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schuelma said:
Impossible, GameSpot told me this was a rail shooter.
Justin Bailey
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gahhhhhhhhhhFuu said:
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Yep, we've known this pretty much sense they showed us what the game looked like now. At least, we had a pretty good idea.BorkBork said:
In my opinion, it's a better direction for the series. Portable multiplayer, single player console games.
It's basically only a Crystal Chronicles game in the name and some plot elements and the tribes. Gameplay wise it has a very different approach from the other CC games.Justin Bailey said:
Safe to assume people will expect multiplayer from this at first glance. Can't blame them, after all the SE secrecy we've only got media blowouts in the recent months (the videos on the official website, the Famitsu/Jump articles). Many are probably knowing more about the game now with E3.BorkBork said:
Justin Bailey
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Any that have just normal, local multiplayer? I've been out of the loop for awhile and I can't seem to find anything.BorkBork said:
There are two DS games, one of them having a Wii port.Justin Bailey said:
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Jaded Alyx
Member
vareon said:
Meh, he's got a heck of a long way to go before he surpasses Cloud...
Justin Bailey
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Yeah but you need the DS game or something to play it on the Wii? I wish they'd just make another SoM style local game. Thanks for the info though.Fuu said: