Actually, Launchpad updated the Google Doc with Crab voting for himself.
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Danganronpa Mafia |OT| Grin and Bear It
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Deleted member 231381
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yeah, he's never done that before
it would be totally out of character
for him to just slide along all game unnoticed
Barrylocke
Member
So if we all agree that this is pretty obnoxious, then how about this. Let's call the talking about Crab and kgtrep a wash for now until maybe the 11th. Let's talk about other topics instead, because there is other stuff worth talking about. And then let's come back to this later once everyone has cooled off (or reignited from other topics). Or quietly make your vote and then leave it be. Or do SOMETHING.
I'm honestly still having some fun even if keeping up with this is more trying than pretty much any mafia game I've played. So at the least I think we should try to preserve it for those who are still enjoying themselves.
Please?
I'm honestly still having some fun even if keeping up with this is more trying than pretty much any mafia game I've played. So at the least I think we should try to preserve it for those who are still enjoying themselves.
Please?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's not in the rules, so I'll allow self-voting.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
I agree with this. I just was venting some frustration.So if we all agree that this is pretty obnoxious, then how about this. Let's call the talking about Crab and kgtrep a wash for now until maybe the 11th. Let's talk about other topics instead, because there is other stuff worth talking about. And then let's come back to this later once everyone has cooled off (or reignited from other topics). Or quietly make your vote and then leave it be. Or do SOMETHING.
I'm honestly still having some fun even if keeping up with this is more trying than pretty much any mafia game I've played. So at the least I think we should try to preserve it for those who are still enjoying themselves.
Please?
So who do YOU want to talk about?
CornBurrito
Member
You know, we can't threaten people with votes today but we can threaten them with D3 votes. So... Why don't we do that? Let's play as if today were D3
Barrylocke
Member
My next impressions post I just starting getting with past posts was actually about you
Zippedpinhead
Member
Please role claim, we can still punish a used power role instead of yours.
If he was switched, would he have died in his room? I noticed that the opening post said he was found in his bed.
That's flavor and irrelevant.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Just flavor.
I see. We've forgotten more than I thought
What a way to start Day 2. I still need to read everything as I only skimmed through the last couple of pages really quick but it does look like we are stuck with kgtrep or crab. Maybe I can find more info from the novels both of you have written in response to one another but it looks like things are kind of straight forward? Who knows, I will come back in a bit and post some thoughts later.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Now I'm really curious...My next impressions post I just starting getting with past posts was actually about you
Well said Barry.
I just want to apologise if I was out of line earlier. Maybe I've put too much faith in my suspicions, but I don't want to make this game unpleasant for anyone, and things definitely got a bit too heated there.
So, sorry if I've been too aggressive at any point.
I just want to apologise if I was out of line earlier. Maybe I've put too much faith in my suspicions, but I don't want to make this game unpleasant for anyone, and things definitely got a bit too heated there.
So, sorry if I've been too aggressive at any point.
kgtrep you used it too soon! And again, you keep saying is a one time use only, that is just dumb play...
And I can tell you are not dumb, this is a power play by you.
I don´t even care right now if crab is scum or not, he might be but I am saving that judgement for tomorrow, today I am keeping my voting on you because I reeeeally want to know why you had to vote today, it will keep bothering if I don´t.
Also, crab, if you don´t feel like playing the game anymore and want to role claim, there is little to no point, I am sure you are getting lynched anyway since people think of you as some kind of god of mafia.
And I can tell you are not dumb, this is a power play by you.
I don´t even care right now if crab is scum or not, he might be but I am saving that judgement for tomorrow, today I am keeping my voting on you because I reeeeally want to know why you had to vote today, it will keep bothering if I don´t.
Also, crab, if you don´t feel like playing the game anymore and want to role claim, there is little to no point, I am sure you are getting lynched anyway since people think of you as some kind of god of mafia.
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yeah that's basically where i got to. i can't do anything today. the ironic part is that people want to get me for leading, because i'm clearly leading right now. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯yeah that's basically where i got to. i can't do anything today. the ironic part is that people want to get me for leading, because i'm clearly leading right now. ¯\_(ツ
Well, you are kind of leading by default since you are known to be good at it, the problem is that you maybe are "too good"
I am willing to lynch you later on in the game, but right now I want to get kg instead.
So I've taken some time to assess the situation. I don't like the current state of the game. Prior to today, if I were to go with my gut, KG would be more likely to be scum. However I do see Crabs assessment of the situation, and unfortunately, he's probably right. To be perfectly honest, I'm not comfortable with offing Crab yet, and I have zero issue with punishing KG for dumb play, assuming he isn't scum. It's just way too early to make kind of play. Sorry KG.
VOTE: kgtrep
VOTE: kgtrep
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It just makes me playing *any* games in this community pointless. "Oh, Crab's leading, let's lynch him", "Oh, Crab's quiet, let's lynch him", "Oh, Crab's fitting in, let's lynch him". Like, you don't even know if I'm actually good or not, and weirdly town is pretty intent on ignoring the advice I do give, over and over again, so i don't even get the one benefit of supposedly being good.
lol, I was going to point that out. I guess been the main game mod is a scum tell.
This happened to me last game and it was lame.yeah that's basically where i got to. i can't do anything today. the ironic part is that people want to get me for leading, because i'm clearly leading right now. ¯_(ツ
Let's not get sidetracked here. This is about kgtrep and Crab. Discussion is focused. That's the utility of this role. There's no bandwagons. Theres no distractions. If we wait, we're setting ourselves up for another twilight roleclaim. I thought you guys hated that.
You certainly started the "this power sucks and now this game sucks" thread. You cant pressure others so you are contesting the idea of the duel mechanic. Youre banking on people believing that both duelists are Hope but will spare you because youre the "better player. You are Despair.yeah that's basically where i got to. i can't do anything today. the ironic part is that people want to get me for leading, because i'm clearly leading right now. ¯\_(ツ
I think it's a brilliant ability. Perfectly captures one of the video game's core mechanics. The whiners give me raindoc vibes. Somebody just signed up to take your place if you dont want to play anymore:
Nah, I want to get kgtrep today, swamped tomorrow, crab then, Terrabyte20xx then and...
huehuehuheuheuhue
then it begins.
TB keeps giving me funny feelings this game but then I keep agreeing with him so I dunno. I feel like we're coming from the same mindset.
Haven't forgotten about rest, will post more there when I'm on a pc
And meanwhile half the game is barely posting so who knows. Maybe the scum team is just lurking and laughing
Haven't forgotten about rest, will post more there when I'm on a pc
And meanwhile half the game is barely posting so who knows. Maybe the scum team is just lurking and laughing
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
So why in that order, and why those people?
kgtrep because of his weird role.
swamped because of my suspicions on day one
crab because of the derailment of the thread everytime we talk about him
terrabyte because of how your post feel weird to me, but mostly because I wanted to complete my list and your name was the first to jump to my mind, I am a gut player, not a deep evidence player, first I go with my gut and then I start deconstructing their posts, read back, get reactions and try to convince others of my view.
But to be honest, I like to play on the assumption that everyone is innocent unless proved otherwise, so you will always see me defending the user that is about to be lynched, unless I clearly agree with the lynch.
Yeah, I'm confused why you'd change your stance from No Punishment since it's not like we've really learned much (if anything) from Night 1.
AbsolutBro
Member
Possible mega post incoming.
That said, these are well written posts. Your suspicions are aired with links and supporting information.
Shame I think you're both Hope players, but I guess we'll see at the end of the vote.
Now then. Franconp's death leaves us in an interesting place. We can't vote today for who we think killed him, but we can discuss it today, because one of us will almost certainly not be around to discuss it tomorrow.
Launch hinted that the map would play a role in Night actions. After all, we're all supposed to be tucked away safely in our dormitory rooms, so for Despair to get to Franconp, someone surely saw something or someone. Obviously anyone that did puts themselves at risk by coming out and saying "I saw <----> in the hallway!" But if we get a healthy discussion going, hints can be dropped and things can be said and obfuscated a little bit more.
So, why Franconp? I'll be honest, with only 30 posts in this thread (several about Makai, at least one soft-calling out Pau) it's hard to see anything specific. I suspect that night 1 for Despair is much like day 1 for Hope: little to go off of so just a pseudo-random choice. Still, they why of it should be there. Were his posts on Makai or Pau too close? Did he just rub Despair the wrong way as a careful and intelligent player? Are they targeting vet players first? Why not ice Crab and leave us with a giant gaping hole for a target, other than Makai?
RIP Fran
I apologize if this sounds mean, but there's a thing called information overload. My brain sort of shut down halfway through besides "kgtrep thinks Crab is Despair". There's also a bit there that is outside of the pervue of the game itself.
That said, these are well written posts. Your suspicions are aired with links and supporting information.
Shame I think you're both Hope players, but I guess we'll see at the end of the vote.
I agree with this. We actually have 4 days to discuss things, with the sure knowledge that at the end we can't have a sudden shifting of votes all over the place like we did day 1. We should use it, because even with THUNDERDOME we have new information to discuss.
Guys this is Czar posting on AB's account. You should totally Punish me!
Exactly. Why and who. We know there's information out there somewhere.
No, we don't. And I know I haven't been as talkative as I was last game. I swear it isn't a ploy, it's just life. I have very limited time, and the time needed to keep my garden alive sort of compounds for every instance that I ignore it to do something else. But I gotta have my tomatoes man. Only time of year I'll eat them.
Silent scum is dead scum.
Unnoticed? Maybe. Unheard, not on your life. <3
<3
I'm not going to lie, one of the issues with being a returning player is that there are expectations of you, that when you don't or can't meet them, come across as mafia/scum/Despair/team bad guys. It sucks, and I would really try to emphasize to ALL players that past performance should not be held against a player. Keep it all in the game itself.
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Now then. Franconp's death leaves us in an interesting place. We can't vote today for who we think killed him, but we can discuss it today, because one of us will almost certainly not be around to discuss it tomorrow.
Launch hinted that the map would play a role in Night actions. After all, we're all supposed to be tucked away safely in our dormitory rooms, so for Despair to get to Franconp, someone surely saw something or someone. Obviously anyone that did puts themselves at risk by coming out and saying "I saw <----> in the hallway!" But if we get a healthy discussion going, hints can be dropped and things can be said and obfuscated a little bit more.
So, why Franconp? I'll be honest, with only 30 posts in this thread (several about Makai, at least one soft-calling out Pau) it's hard to see anything specific. I suspect that night 1 for Despair is much like day 1 for Hope: little to go off of so just a pseudo-random choice. Still, they why of it should be there. Were his posts on Makai or Pau too close? Did he just rub Despair the wrong way as a careful and intelligent player? Are they targeting vet players first? Why not ice Crab and leave us with a giant gaping hole for a target, other than Makai?
Gotcha.
I still feel like we're in almost the same boat as Day 1, just with one less player.
How long are we willing to wait for Despair to kill off Makai before we assume he's lying and do it ourselves?
I can´t, haven´t watched the film yet.
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Deleted member 231381
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Was it claim unnecessarily and then lock conversation on a tiny minority of players?
Yep. "Top posters are always scum, lynch them" -brad pitt
Would franconp's room being in the corner make him a target? That's probably the "oddest" thing about his placement. Least likely route to be seen? I don't know if people are told exactly who they see or if they bump into "someone" in the dark. Probably the later?
He seemed okay with my response back so I doubt he was too suspicious. He didn't really go hard on anyone from what I remember, so I think it might really just be the placement.
We get it, we are locked on it and you don´t like it, might as well work with it, since its clear the conversation is not going to go further until kg comes back.
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CornBurrito
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My suspicion of you was never once based on meta data.
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Honestly, I'm not sure there's any reasonable information we can get from francop's death at this stage. It was N1, so mafia haven't had the ability to use any investigative roles yet. Their decision to kill was based purely on D1. They don't need to kill any player who was looked at suspisciously, because they can count on town to do that for them. Every single person except CzarTim got voted for at least once, but francop was probably one of the least pushed on, which implies he is relatively well trusted, which makes him a good lynch target. That's not to imply his vote choices were right - as mafia, I don't kill people who fos'd me because it is difficult to explain the next day (instead, I kill people who fos the people who fos me - difficult for them to explain). If anything, they probably weren't.
What's more useful than "who did mafia kill" is "who did mafia not kill". Mafia avoided killing PRs, which I thought was interesting, but they're probably trying to steer away from the obvious kills because there will be protection on them. Alternatively, at least one of the "PRs" we have so far are scum, which I'm increasingly thinking is not at all unlikely in Makai's case. I also think it is interesting that CzarTim is still alive - he went totally unvoted for yesterday, is a top poster, seems well trusted, and contributes what appears like relatively useful information. Right now I'd peg that as mafia avoiding obvious targets, but the longer CzarTim survives, the more suspiscious I would get of him particularly.
What's more useful than "who did mafia kill" is "who did mafia not kill". Mafia avoided killing PRs, which I thought was interesting, but they're probably trying to steer away from the obvious kills because there will be protection on them. Alternatively, at least one of the "PRs" we have so far are scum, which I'm increasingly thinking is not at all unlikely in Makai's case. I also think it is interesting that CzarTim is still alive - he went totally unvoted for yesterday, is a top poster, seems well trusted, and contributes what appears like relatively useful information. Right now I'd peg that as mafia avoiding obvious targets, but the longer CzarTim survives, the more suspiscious I would get of him particularly.