You can't say it's not convincing simply because you don't like it. I find the information very credible not only because it's from Eurogamer but also because it's in line with the rumors flying around and the patents. Also as a company, Nintendo is known for creating weird things like this.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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You can't say it's not convincing simply because you don't like it. I find the information very credible not only because it's from Eurogamer but also because it's in line with the rumors flying around and the patents. Also as a company, Nintendo is known for creating weird things like this.
Yeah and this from blackvine. I can see them only doing an Nx portable until the reign of the ps4 is over in a couple years, but I don't think we can jump to the conclusion they won't release a more traditional home console in a couple years. They may run with this sort of hybrid set up for a couple years and then come out with a home console. This portable could also bomb hardcore like the wii u, and then will they just not make hardware anymore? They have a warchest and I'm sure we'll see another home console from them, as well as another portable further down the line, other weird hardware and probably another home console in 10 years or so, but who knows what gaming is even going to look like in general that far out.
StrongBlackVine
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They can still sell games, but not much hardware(in the home console space). I guess still don't understand why Sony, Microsoft and PC can sustain platforms with great AAA 3rd party support and sell exclusives(well everything on PC is 3rd party but you get the point), but this it seems almost impossible for Nintendo to do it. I wanted this thing to be traditional box, but I see plenty of people are thrilled with this idea so I guess I'm just not the target market for Nintendo at all.
fluffydelusions
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Just reveal it already! I want
Mihos
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If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:
I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.
thoughts?
Now try to draw hands on that controller... the horror
Jonneh3003
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I just meant for extra power, I'm sure the standard NX will be more powerful than the WIi U.
, been ages.IceDoesntHelp
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So no BC with Wii U I'm assuming, how about 3DS??
gundamkyoukai
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The west cares about AAA games .
The place where consoles are selling and handheld have drop like a rock .
Right now Nintendo not making much money since both of there markets saw a huge drop off.
MMaRsu
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ZombiePlatypus
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Yeah, I think they're shooting for making a successful gaming product here (that happens to also offer living room gaming experience on your TV) without bothering to get caught in the parity-race.
MatrixMan.EXE
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I'm personally doubting the dock will have extra power, especially if Nintendo wants to keep costs down. As per usual with them, they'll cut corners on the hardware somewhere and I think they'll be perfectly with that level of power.
Spyder_Monkey
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Well... now we know what the NX is.
MoogleWizard
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I'm no graphics whore but I have to admit only slighty better than Wii U is a bit disappointing. Though what I really care about when it comes to visuals/graphics is to finally get Nintendo games with decent AA and at full HD. Some Wii U games like Mario Kart 8 already look fantastic, they just need more resolution and better IQ.
If this rumor is true, it would awesome if they released an additional stationary dock with more processing power. They could call the base handheld/hybrid system "Nintendo Go", and the addon dock "Nintendo Home". 😃
The best thing about this, though, is that Nintendo can focus all development on one system, so hopefully no more droughts!
Vanillalite
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Just stahp. I already said pages ago don't just randomly Google and source Anandtech.
It's worth noting I already did a long form thread on that article months ago as well as one for the K1.
Look the current shield is box is actively cooled and runs at 20 watts if not more during gaming. You also aren't actually getting half a teraflop at 32fp. Thats max numbers from Nvidia. It also runs hot as a mother fucker.
BocoDragon
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Winning AAA multiplatforms is not the metric for Nintendo success. That's not what anyone is ever talking about when they mean "successful Nintendo console".
They want a healthy install base of a console sold at a profit, and the ability to sell their evergreen first-party titles that never drop in price. That's Nintendo success.
If they took over the AAA world? Fine. A wild dream. But no one sane expects that.
OrbitalBeard
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Oh ok.
The SCD patent has to mean something NX-related, so it's possible the docking station brings something more to the table, but I'm a bit skeptical it's going to actually give the handheld more juice.
Yeah, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it's just a means for direct TV playback.
Vyse The Legend
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The only bad part of this rumor is Tegra. Everything else is exactly what I hoped NX would be.
Fourth Storm
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If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:
I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.
thoughts?
Well, the option to use the two pieces freehand style seems to be there. For traditional style play, don't put it past Nintendo to sell some type of plastic extender to space out the two pieces when the screen is docked.
casey_contra
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If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:
I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.
thoughts?
Source said that they are separate controllers. Doesn't mean that you can't put them together though.
Jonneh3003
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It will be awesome though, no need to create two separate entries for one franchise just to tick the box for both systems.
Moon_frogger
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you really want a vr experience that is less powerful than the already less than ideal one available for ps4? I don't think that's anything to get excited about.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Kinda bummed about it not being more powerful but love the idea of consolidating all dev teams on a single sku, not a fan of handheld gaming, was jelly of all those 3ds games I couldn't play on the big screen. This seems to take care of that problem so win-win. Hoping for low msrp.
ZombiePlatypus
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If they're blurring the lines with a hybrid, it all becomes semantics. If it does well as a hybrid, it's technically still doing well as a console (since that's one of its features). Just not in the conventional, horsepower-driven console space. Assuming these rumors are accurate, they're trying to carve out a new home console market here, not hinged on parity or high-performance.
PantherLotus
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reposting this without the quote so it shows up in quotes, sorry for repost / continued dumbness.
thing i didn't think about while mocking this up was where the cartridge goes -- whether it's in the back of the mobile device like the DS or on the bottom edge that would be facing the user while docked.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Kind of.
Jonneh3003
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This is the question, we still actually know nothing.
Or the tv functionality requires the dock which could be an optional accessory. As making it optional also would cut down the cost of buying the core handheld system.
ultrazilla
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If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:
I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.
thoughts?
I think we're close.
NX free form display controllers. Controllers attach and form one seamless display.
Probably less physical buttons on them and more haptic/virtual buttons though.
General idea though.
outunderthestars
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Having a better launch lineup than Wii U or 3DS is not asking a whole lot lol
Also, prettier versions of COD and FIFA are FAR more appealing than prettier versions of Smash and Zelda at this point. I have a hard time believing many people outside of the Nintendo core fanbase (which is pretty small at this point), will choose NX over Xbone, PS4, NEO or Scorpio.
So?
They are here for the profit and GC had better profits than PS2, the biggest console ever.
OrbitalBeard
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If, by some miracle, NX is wildly successful, this is how fanboys will spin its success into... something else.
"Well, it didn't technically outsell PS4 this month. It's not a real home console!"
lol
Well now I'm wondering if the docks will have an SCD connection or if the docks are an SCD.
Lol discs,please no
It's still a handheld, as i remember, nintendo handhelds always used cartridges.
But who cares about cartridges, you can even load games from SD.
It's just that people likes it.
Quite the foresight you've got there considering we have nothing concrete, and the only leaks we have say the devkit uses Tegra X1 (with an active fan - implying not a standard X1 either at the moment or expected in future iterations).
At this point it could literally be anything from a 0.5TFlop runt to a 1.5TFlop rather neat little machine with a cool party trick. Or both (scalable between "portable" and "home" modes).
Yikes...whats up with some of the bitterness lol.
Obv, no one knows how much NX is gonna sell - but WiiU+3DS is the amount of systems Nintendo sold this gen. Some of you are acting as if he used og. Wii and DS family sales to predict how much NX will sell in its first year.
The main point is that the portable is way more succesful even though they screwed up a lot of things with the 3DS, it makes sense for Nintendo to focus on what they are good at at - portable systems.
Who said anything about prettier ? Also more appealing to whom ?
The WiiU has a tiny userbase while BotW will sell on NX for its whole life span - there are many people who skipped the WiiU and will the game on NX instead. Also i dont think the regular CoD/Fifa buys the game because they are graphical showcases.
Why over ? A customer cant have a PS4/XBO/PC...and a NX ?
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It's just a way to be able to sell ALL their games to their portable fans and their console fans. Versus the current status quo where a lot of their base only owned one or the other and thus could only buy a part of their game library. Not to mention the added costs in R&D and development for having two platforms.
As I said before, when you're a company appealing to a sizeable niche market you can't really chop it in half with self competition. They don't need to expand their base greatly. They've sold 60 million 3DSs. Even if they just sell 30-50 million of these, that's a large base to sell ALL their games too since their IP have such high attach rates.
Their path to profits is just doing stuff like that to heavily monetize their base, along with their new mobile revenue stream, Amiibo revenue stream etc.
Bloodporne
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I haven't owned a handheld since the original GameBoy, no lie. I've never once been interested in a handheld, not really for any specific reasons.
I would've liked a real Nintendo home console after finding the Wii and WiiU to be gimmicky stinkers for the most part and not even buying a WiiU anymore. I used to be somewhat of a Nintendo fanboy as well.
SuperLeviathan
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That's hardly the same thing since that was only in two consoles. No Nintendo game system up until now has lacked a D-Pad.
Just for VC alone, I don't think they'll start now.
MatrixMan.EXE
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More confusion for the average consumer. Great.
outunderthestars
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How large do micro SD cards go these days?
Can I buy a 1tb card?
Can I buy a 1tb card?
Fredrik
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It is the least powerful console and there is no real uniqueness. What's the selling point? Remember that WiiU didn't fail because the Off TV Play range was too limited.
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