I totally disagree. Their solution is perfectly fine. I store and run games on my PC/Mac from a 2TB USB 2.0 drive just fine. Being able to do that on the Wii U is good, and we can use any HDD we want. I already have a 2TB drive ready for my Wii U. Players are in total control of their storage needs.
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I totally disagree. Their solution is perfectly fine. I store and run games on my PC/Mac from a 2TB USB 2.0 drive just fine. Being able to do that on the Wii U is good, and we can use any HDD we want. I already have a 2TB drive ready for my Wii U. Players are in total control of their storage needs.
Only if they had games I actually wanted.
I know people like this as well and it's kind of sad.
Refreshment.01
Member
You didn't pay attention to my post. It's fine for storage as i already said. But to for a developer to take advantage in terms of enhancing the game running from the Hard Disk... say for caching purposes or improving load times a faster connection that USB 2.0 is in order.
Why expect less than what we more or less had since 2001? Xbox came packed with a HD with greatly benefited game experience. PS3 gave the user incredible freedom in this regard and the Xbox 360 also gave the option, now you can even rip the game to the HD and enjoy some advantages.
I don't understand how you can disagree with this because it only brings benefits to you the user.
Me,...nope nothing...its only that I expect some good news.
out of my work I have some good contacts to "their" marketing...and there I heard someone talking about some good news inbetween the next seven days or so!!
Wat exactly I dont know?!
But I expect something good about WiiU
Edit:
Have to leave work now!! See ya all on monday!!
AceBandage
Banned
Oh gourd.
Because I'm totally fine with the speed of USB 2.0 drives. I run WoW (and all of my Steam games) from a USB drive and it works great. As long as Nintendo gives me the option to choose any drive I want, then I see no problem with this. I'm more than positive we'll be installing our games on the drive and all that jazz. Those who want that extra cost can get an HDD, those who don't can opt out. Pretty much how it is with the 360.
AceBandage
Banned
Likely fake, but crazy enough to be real.
So crazy that it has to be real.
So crazy that it doesn't even phase me.
Maybe a exclusive metal gear? I remember a metal gear acid or something
GameplayWhore
Member
Frankly, I think that Nintendo would have fit better with Vanilla Ice on account of both of them having awesome ninjas as best friends.
Ninja! Ninja
rap!
I believe it's real and that it's going to be The Legend of Zelda: Acid Ghost. It's not the first time Nintendo took on "rap".
See...Eminem won't be any different.
See...Eminem won't be any different.
GameplayWhore
Member
I personally prefer the idea of external hard drives (frankly, I think standardizing on this reduces the chances of being nickel&dimed by a mandatory first party storage solution), but I concede that USB 2.0 is unwise given how long 3.0 has been on the market and how much faster it is. Or even eSATA, which'd be a slightly ballsy but perhaps clever option to suddenly shift to.
I rip my (legally obtained, mods!) Wii games to hard drive and run from there for everything excepting NSMBW (there's a homebrew user-level installer that seems to require that you use the physical disc), and it is a giant convenience for me. But even on this older system, I expected it to be much faster than accesses from the optical drive, and this ended up not seeming to be the case.
Sony PS2 in 2006 was no where near where Nintendo 3DS is now, which is why it was in a worse position than Nintendo is now, and it only took Sony 2 or 3 years to catch up to Live (except for horrible interface, but it is free to play online which is a boon in it's favor)
As far as their solid storage strategy, you and I don't know it, but that doesn't mean they don't have one... obviously if they announce all their games will be available digitally day 1, that means they have something in mind as far as storage, and remember they use 25GB discs.
Seems a bit soon for a Zelda title, honestly. But then again, it could be the 3DS title. But then again, would Nintendo use Eminem for a portable's advertising.. seems like they'd save him for the home console.
Shadow Hog
Member
And finally, after that IMDb posting claiming 50 Cent would voice Epona in Twilight Princess, it will be made reality.
But then again, Nintendo could surprise us with Eminem playing an updated version of that Zelda tech demo from last year
In all seriousness, I would hope it's for a new ip.
Holy shit haha. I spit some of my water on my work monitor.
What the hell is this?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
You can Go to a Nintendo website and you'll see this rumor which comes from them.
GameplayWhore
Member
I'm hoping that Nintendo keeps the "sardonically, cleverly self-aware" advertisement style that they had in that 3DS advert a few weeks ago, regardless of who they bring on to pimp their warez. Anything that I can find reminiscent of that "product placement" scene from Wayne's World is a plus over here.
I can't imagine that there won't be a Nintendo-branded drive from the get-go. It's just too much of a high profit item to ignore if they're already set up to use peripherals of this sort.
Wait, what 360 game used HDD buffering? because the 4GB flash basic and the original arcade didn't have hard drives... so how exactly did that work. Do you get paid to complain about the system? STEVE BALLMER?!
Refreshment.01
Member
Im having a really hard time understanding your line of thought here. If for example, Nintendo included a SATA port as well as your USB 2.0 in the console, how will this limit you in anyway? It's giving you more options and a hell of improvement in load times and caching if using the SATA connection. Chances are that enclosure could have both an USB 2.0 and a SATA port already.
Not having USB 3.0 i understand, due to licensing costs. SATA is cheap as f*ck right now and wouldn't drive cost significantly, plus they probably have the controller in there for the optical drive. And there are ways for them to compensate.
So what are you talking about really Edarkness?
Games detect when the HD is installed and take proper advantage of it. Why is that so strange? That's what cool about how MS handled the HD issue. Don't see why Nintendo can't.
I think he's saying that he doesn't want Nintendo to pull what MS pulled with the Xbox 360.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Eminem is still a thing?
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
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I don't either... since it would still be pretty fast, like I said you and I don't know the storage solution, but even if it is just USB 2.0... that can still do a lot for them, and really having 2x to 4x the memory of the 360 will improve those things anyways (since resolutions will likely stay @ 1080P max until 2018-2020
BTW USB 2.0 is a 60MB/s bus... which is not much different from a standard Hard Disk Drive.
Ehh.. this is the first I've heard from him in a while. But then again, I don't follow pop culture very closely. I'm so pitiful that one of my nieces had to explain to me who Bieber was a year ago..
UncleSporky
Member
Is it only those three games? I don't even want any of them.
You mean the guy who sold 8 million copies and broke a shitload of records with his latest album? I guess he's still kind of a big deal.
I still wanna see Miyamoto rappin' with him. Doesn't even have to be in English. Heck, it'd be better, more interesting in Japanese.
GameplayWhore
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Looking at Storage Review's recent benchmarks, there are a ton of both solid state drives and classic hard drives which exceed that peak, overhead-inclusive number for USB 2.0 in terms of average, actual data performance by multipliers ranging between two and eight.
USB 2.0 is most certainly a bottleneck right now, even if there are drives that don't exceed it.
don't worry he was only born like 3 years ago, so you're good.
He did seem rather young (and asexual) when I first saw him. Did not get it one bit. I could look at NKOTB and see why girls would scream, but this? Phhhbbbbt!
A japanese survey shows/confirms a lost of interest in next generation machines, including the Wii U
Between that + catastrophic sales numbers this week in Japan (post-golden week, ok, but the market state is very low since a moment now) + grim retail sales in the US (NPD) + it's not far better in Europe...
There's a shift in the industry, towards greener/different/evolved pastures (social, f2p, web-based, mobile devices, stream/cloud, digital distribution, yadda yadda yadda), let's hope Nintendo will be able to grab/adapt to it, and above all, bring its approach/own value/innovations/nice touch in the process.
goo Research recently took their third regular look at games machines, and according to the report on japan.internet.com, interest in the newest devices is waning.
Demographics
Between the 23rd and 26th of April 2012 1,083 members of the goo Research online monitor group completed a private internet-based questionnaire. 52.8% of the sample were male, 16.3% in their teens, 18.2% in their twenties, 21.2% in their thirties, 16.3% in their forties, and 28.0% aged fifty or older.
The article doesn’t report the question I would like to hear answered, why people are not interested in the new devices. For the PS Vita and Xperia PLAY, is it that normal smartphones do the job well enough, and with various surveys pointing to the majority of those in their twenties now carrying smartphones, a prime target for Sony already derives enough fun from their iPhone, Galaxy or other big-seller?
Between that + catastrophic sales numbers this week in Japan (post-golden week, ok, but the market state is very low since a moment now) + grim retail sales in the US (NPD) + it's not far better in Europe...
There's a shift in the industry, towards greener/different/evolved pastures (social, f2p, web-based, mobile devices, stream/cloud, digital distribution, yadda yadda yadda), let's hope Nintendo will be able to grab/adapt to it, and above all, bring its approach/own value/innovations/nice touch in the process.
My fervent hope is that the uPad will help break this barrier. It might be just the thing that Nintendo needs to catch fire in Japan's home console market again.
bgassassin
Member
That's the theoretical max. It's normally slower than that.
LOL. Don't feel bad as I didn't know about him to a year or so before you. I still don't see why people hate him like they do.
Refreshment.01
Member
That's exactly what im suggesting. External hard drives but give the user the option to connect them to the WiiU with a more adequate connection than USB 2.0.
What a really incredible strange answer. But isn't Nintendo in a worst position than Sony now in terms of online infra structure? Sony has been working and investing far more resources in its network for a longer time, more than Nintendo ever has. So i really don't understand how your comparison fits in this puzzle. Can't believe we are actually tacking about this
Do you remember the guy was asking for parity? You remember that key part, right?You are mistaken
The USB 2.0 never reaches 480 mbps throughput in real scenarios. The speeds are not close. This is a fact. In real world situations the difference between an eSATA and USB 2.0 are closde to 2.5 to 3 times in favor of the eSATA.I had the oportunity to test this myself.
I don't even know how we could be arguing about this issue and offering advantages (at cheap cost) to the user. Bizarro universe indeed.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
NK-who? Are you referring to those kids that were a one-day wonder among their peers a couple of years ago?
Correct. I believe it's somewhere in the line of 25 MB/s - 35 MB/s normally.
I'm talking about Beiber
bgassassin
Member
The first mention I remember was at the end of March where someone from EA said Nintendo might be showing the console at E3.
GameplayWhore
Member
Bieber is my cousin's new last name (well, as of about three or so years ago, and her husband's first name is similar, for that matter), and that's probably the only reason I know about it.
We're in a transitional period between generations, months before marketing has actually started to drum interest in a new system. On the portable side, both manufacturers tried to pull a fast one and charge what the market sees as a prohibitively high price for systems (approaching twice* as much as the previous record for generation starting price in Nintendo's case). The one that reduced to something more palatable but still high is now selling really well. In Japan, at least.
* 67% more expensive, actually
You know who sang a song about New Kids on the Block? Eminem. It's all starting to make sense now.
bgassassin
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