tetsujin007
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Can't wait for this, it'll be all sorts of awesome! Maybe this will prompt SEGA to do SCUD racer/Daytona 2, Model 3 arcade perfect ports in HD! 
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The 90's Arcade Racer Kickstarter (from the maker of Sonic Fan Remix)
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UltraMagnanimous
Member
Meaningful update?
How about he's now confirmed the title for the Wii U eShop as well?
How about he's now confirmed the title for the Wii U eShop as well?
Hero of Legend
Member
FUCK YES! Glad it's Wii U-bound, and by Nicalis, they haven't been TOO bad, slow, but eventually they get their games out.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I wonder how well Nicalis actually does on Nintendo DD platforms? They seem...heavily invested on all fronts.
Good to see the game now confirmed!
Good to see the game now confirmed!
It's in the comments, answering to a question regarding the possibility of picking the reward on Wii U:
gingerbeardman
Member
Basically developed by Nicalis. Hmm.
I wonder who made the demo given that the project guy is only the artist?
I wonder who made the demo given that the project guy is only the artist?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Oh I missed that part. What's the Kickstarter money for now? The stretch goal was to hire another guy, dedicated to peogramming, but Nicalis took that up and then some now, so... Is he still going to use it for himself, to stay full time on the project, or is Nicalis also going to do art so he doesn't have to do it all himself or what..? Has he changed those descriptions on the kickstarter page yet? And how much cotrol did Nicalis get if that version stuff is out of his control..? Considering pulling out too...
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Ah Nicalis, the kiss of death.
gingerbeardman
Member
I'm out, was $15. I'll wait for the Wii U version and then make a decision.
My reservations about the gameplay have been compounded by Nicalis' involvement. Especially after Tyrone's whole "I've raced real cars so I know how it should handle" angle started my alarm bells ringing - this game shouldn't have handling anywhere near realistic.
My reservations about the gameplay have been compounded by Nicalis' involvement. Especially after Tyrone's whole "I've raced real cars so I know how it should handle" angle started my alarm bells ringing - this game shouldn't have handling anywhere near realistic.
yep, the whole point of the games that this one is to have those wild arcade physics. If I wanted realistic racing, there's forza, gt, the upcoming project cars and a whole list of games I cant even recall right now that would scratch that itch. All the arcade racers of today are all about crashing into stuff rather than the pure racing aspect.
MadOdorMachine
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I was looking forward to this, but have been skeptical from the beginning about the controls. You can tell from the video that there isn't any drifting like in SCUD Race. It's always been unclear what type of controls they're going with.
On another note, why the concern over Nicalis? Is there a history there?
On another note, why the concern over Nicalis? Is there a history there?
I can't even begin to fathom how you think that was his point.
Emperor Bohe
Member
I'll just pick this up on Wii U, whenever I buy a Wii U (possibly in years =/)
The Main Event
Member
Just saw this...definitely in for the Wii U version!
The guy from Niceles is a former real life race car driver, as well as a developer who worked on the drifting physics for several titles including Need for Speed Tokyo Drift. I'd say he's qualified to work on an arcade racer featuring drifting
Azure Dream
Member
Funded, for £16,039, beating their original £10,000 goal.
Met Antonis Pelekanos and Tyrone Rodriguez @ iDÉAME 2013. They were super nice, we could get to shoot this 8 min interview - live demo in which they show a previously unseen track in real time (hell, you can even see the mouse pointer! lol).
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/54901/Primicia:+el+nuevo+circuito+de+The+90's+Arcade+Racer/
Also, comments on Unity benefits, Wii U motion controls, devs collab and blue skies
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/54901/Primicia:+el+nuevo+circuito+de+The+90's+Arcade+Racer/
Also, comments on Unity benefits, Wii U motion controls, devs collab and blue skies
Met Antonis Pelekanos and Tyrone Rodriguez @ iDÉAME 2013. They were super nice, we could get to shoot this 8 min interview - live demo in which they show a previously unseen track in real time (hell, you can even see the mouse pointer! lol).
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/54901/Primicia:+el+nuevo+circuito+de+The+90's+Arcade+Racer/
Also, comments on Unity benefits, Wii U motion controls, devs collab and blue skies
I've spoken to him a few times regarding helping out on the music which he seemed really keen, but not heard from him for a while now.
Yeah, after the interview we went like: only thing missing is a cool song!
I really trust them. And it's not that they're hiding they usual delays in the interview
Yeah, after the interview we went like: only thing missing is a cool singed track!
I really trust them. And it's not that they're hiding they usual delays in the interview
Well, could make it happen my side. Just need to know what his plans are. I'm busy with many projects currently but this has always intrigued me.
MadOdorMachine
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It's good to hear finally have a tentative release window late 2013 - early 2014. Was anything said about how the cars would handle? Are they going after that drift style in SCUD Race/Super GT?
tyronerodriguez
Member
For anyone following '90s Arcade Racer, we did an update today on the Nicalis blog as well as Antonis' Kickstarter page.
Here's the text taken directly from the KS page:
"At this point some of you may feel like weve been working on 90s Arcade Racer since the 90s. Thats not entirely true, while Antonis and I were indeed playing Scud Race (Super GT in the US) and Daytona USA some 20 years--that was just preparation for the game were developing now.
Heres whats been happening the last couple of months with 90s Arcade Racer.
Physics, physics and more physics!
In the 100+ hours Ive spent on racetracks combined with the thousands of hours logged playing racing video games, theres something that feels quite counterintuitive to the genre. You would think super realistic racing games would have super accurate and lifelike physics -- but that doesn't necessarily always make a better product. To really give the sensation of speed, gravity, lateral gravity, as a designer you end up removing many functions that make a vehicle simulation real, in the theoretical sense. A driving simulator, more often than not feels like a floaty, unresponsive boat. Part of that is because you cant feel yourself slinking around a bucket seat, you dont have the sensation of a vehicles weight shift between the four corners; theres an entirely missing dimension in racing games.
Antonis and I are going for a fun and arcade racing feel, weve said that from the start. Those two descriptors are equally important to the project. Getting to the balance of an arcade feel while offering a challenging experience and still giving the car some complex real-world behaviors is where our own challenge begins.
Once you start playing a racing game, especially an arcade-style one, terminology like camber, caster, differentials, toe, torque and drivetrain are quickly forgotten. Initially I spent a lot of time trying to get an arcade feel out of a real vehicle simulation. After extensive experimentation what Antonis and I found was that it just wasnt working.
In this case its much easier to build something from zero and create an experience that perfectly recreates the perception and expectation we all have of a typical arcade racer. Version 2.0 of 90s Arcade Racer physics is built within the expressed intention of creating a real arcade racing game. What that means is that the game is really feeling like should. The car reacts in a way that is indicative of an arcade racer, it moves and accelerates properly and now we have a really fun grip and drift mechanic within the game. Although its been challenging having to build physics from nothing, this has allowed us to really build the vehicles exactly how we want and how they should feel.
Im pretty confident that were very much in the right direction with the physics and youll probably agree once you have an opportunity to play it. Antonis has been doing great work on creating the world of 90s Arcade Racer. But Ill let him do that update in the very near future."
Here's the text taken directly from the KS page:
"At this point some of you may feel like weve been working on 90s Arcade Racer since the 90s. Thats not entirely true, while Antonis and I were indeed playing Scud Race (Super GT in the US) and Daytona USA some 20 years--that was just preparation for the game were developing now.
Heres whats been happening the last couple of months with 90s Arcade Racer.
Physics, physics and more physics!
In the 100+ hours Ive spent on racetracks combined with the thousands of hours logged playing racing video games, theres something that feels quite counterintuitive to the genre. You would think super realistic racing games would have super accurate and lifelike physics -- but that doesn't necessarily always make a better product. To really give the sensation of speed, gravity, lateral gravity, as a designer you end up removing many functions that make a vehicle simulation real, in the theoretical sense. A driving simulator, more often than not feels like a floaty, unresponsive boat. Part of that is because you cant feel yourself slinking around a bucket seat, you dont have the sensation of a vehicles weight shift between the four corners; theres an entirely missing dimension in racing games.
Antonis and I are going for a fun and arcade racing feel, weve said that from the start. Those two descriptors are equally important to the project. Getting to the balance of an arcade feel while offering a challenging experience and still giving the car some complex real-world behaviors is where our own challenge begins.
Once you start playing a racing game, especially an arcade-style one, terminology like camber, caster, differentials, toe, torque and drivetrain are quickly forgotten. Initially I spent a lot of time trying to get an arcade feel out of a real vehicle simulation. After extensive experimentation what Antonis and I found was that it just wasnt working.
In this case its much easier to build something from zero and create an experience that perfectly recreates the perception and expectation we all have of a typical arcade racer. Version 2.0 of 90s Arcade Racer physics is built within the expressed intention of creating a real arcade racing game. What that means is that the game is really feeling like should. The car reacts in a way that is indicative of an arcade racer, it moves and accelerates properly and now we have a really fun grip and drift mechanic within the game. Although its been challenging having to build physics from nothing, this has allowed us to really build the vehicles exactly how we want and how they should feel.
Im pretty confident that were very much in the right direction with the physics and youll probably agree once you have an opportunity to play it. Antonis has been doing great work on creating the world of 90s Arcade Racer. But Ill let him do that update in the very near future."
tyronerodriguez
Member
It's unlikely that it'd be 2013 and more certain for Q1 2014 for a few of reasons.
The development on is going really well. With the momentum we have, Antonis and I don't want to rush its release simply for the sake of getting it out, particularly when everything is coming together.
Second, we already announced Windows, OSX, Linux and Wii U, but we're also interested in other consoles (PS3, PS4, PSV, Xbox One).
Lastly, and related to the above, since we're developing in Unity, we need to wait to hear from Unity and Sony/MS on their collective licensing plans for each console.
ResidentDante
Member
Nice! I backed you with a physical copy, is this for the PC or can we choose which one?
MrCunningham
Member
What's Balrog from Cave Story doing in the top corner?
game is looking pretty good, regardless.
thank you!
I'll look forward for the Wii U version, hopefully in reeeeally early 2014 ;p
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
This looks awesome
What's Balrog from Cave Story doing in the top corner?
game is looking pretty good, regardless.
I assume to do with Nicalis's involvement, like how you'd randomly see a Sonic mural in the games that inspired it.
MrCunningham
Member
Ah, I see. I haven't been following development of this game at all to know that. But its a pretty cool throwback to games like Daytona USA.
the androgyne
Member
Down for a Vita version as well as Wii U!
The talk of physics reminds me of how perfectly Daytona struck that balance - of course you know what to aim for already!
The talk of physics reminds me of how perfectly Daytona struck that balance - of course you know what to aim for already!
tyronerodriguez
Member
Unfortunately, the physical version will be for Windows/OSX/Linux.
We're also doing something really great with the soundtrack, which we'll be announcing within the next month or so.
Diablo Rosso
Member
This looks great. I'm in for PS4 and Vita, hopefully cross-buy.
I'm going to go out on a limb. Either:
a) Richard Jacques, or
b) Takenobu Mitsuyoshi
Or maybe it's wishful thinking. But I'd like to think it's the latter, especially given how easy-going and fun he seems!
frankie_baby
Member
I wasted so much money on Daytona in my teenage years, this takes me right back, cant wait for it
ResidentDante
Member
Thanks for the info! I'll probably be buying it for the PS4 too then!