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Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D -- The Yellow Debate
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Ahoi-Brause
Banned
Oh wow... it's like they aren't even trying.Serenade said:
Electivirus
Member
Glad to see the random cows are back.
HylianScribe
Member
Brandon F said:
Master Quest is locked untill you beat the game, yes.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
It was that way in the first Zelda.Gino said:
Maybe there will be a code to get it from the start as well.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
WTF. One of the only reasons I was going to buy the remake was because I never played through Master Quest. Now I have to play through the whole entire game to do so? Will still buy, but hype diminished... :/Gino said:
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I'm not too worried about Master Quest being locked until you go through the initial game. Should be fun seeing everything in 3D with improved textures.
AbsoluteZero
Banned
Hope Zelda shows up on the demo units...really, really want this and a 3DS but I just don't have the funds to spread around at he moment...
fabricated backlash
Member
What a tragedy. They force you to play one of the best games ever first before letting you play a poorly rearranged version of it.Mr. Wonderful said:
Sorry for sounding like a Dick, but thats just a silly complaint.
lostinblue
Banned
Oh, how I wish they gave Zelda to Koizumi.Shikamaru Ninja said:
That guy is a storytelling god.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
lostinblue said:
Hear, hear! Most people nowadays think of Super Mario Galaxy when they hear Koizumi's name, but this man wrote the story to Link's Awakening! The job of writing Zelda stories should have been made his by default since 1993!
EDIT: Actually, now that I look at the Wikipedia article for Yoshiaki Koizumi, I see that he's actually done much for Zelda that I had previously thought.
Created the three day system in Majora's Mask? He really should be in charge!
lostinblue
Banned
That guy
Is god. He tries to make everything multi layered. I mean he's the guy that tried to put a optional story in Mario Galaxy (and succeeded) of course it's there only for those who want it (just like in Zelda) but it's surprisingly deep; he's wasted on Mario.
Link's Awakening, OoT split timeline theory, Majora Mask Hell, I bet the whole "sage's assasination" and the hylian conversations only being unwinded in +new game is his doing as well. This guy defined Zelda storytelling and is clearly the person that can do it best.
I shiver with the thoughts of a imprisioning war game made by him. YES, IMPRISIONING WAR, 7 years after Majora Mask, like Twilight Princess was slated to be in 2004.
I mean, this deserves to be rehashed and rehashed:
Note: In E3 2004 there wasn't any Wolf implemented, the idea came afterwards, it was a different game which explains why almost everything they've shown is not in the final game, just some enemies and the fire boss; the scenery is all different) That was why there were hordes of orcs for a sunset battle, that was OoT's sequel, that was Hero of Time in MM universe, adult again and facing Ganon, Imprisioning War! And I still love the freaking trailer; I love TP as well but hey, not the same game, it only shared the same development cycle.
I want my motherf*cking imprisioning war (and they left the hole for it, it just has to finish with Ganon being imprisoned again and being given final judgement by the Sages) Koizumi wouldn't fail me! In fact if it was done by anyone that person should be Koizumi (also, the time/hardware generation would be right, with the OoT re-release on 3DS).
There's also space for a Wind Waker prequel with a failed hero (let's face it, how could there be awakened sages to be killed otherwise? why would ganon even feel the need to do so if nobody was the Master Sword's rightful owner?) And we, hero of time who ceased to exist in that time plane after OoT NEVER, EVER met Valoo or King of Red Lions (or Laruto and Fado, for that matter) who clearly met the "hero of legends", so they must have met another hero that ultimately failed because Ganon killed the sages that would power the sword of evil bane, I envision him only discovering that in the last battle being unable to seal him and being either sealed along with him or at least having a last battle in ganon tower (just like in wind waker) with hyrule being flooded already. A bittersweet Zelda tale of a forgotten hero (that still managed to save Zelda, seeing Tetra exists, and probably sacrificed himself) I bet the tips left behind were Koizumi's too.
GAH! WANT!
Link's Awakening, OoT split timeline theory, Majora Mask Hell, I bet the whole "sage's assasination" and the hylian conversations only being unwinded in +new game is his doing as well. This guy defined Zelda storytelling and is clearly the person that can do it best.
I shiver with the thoughts of a imprisioning war game made by him. YES, IMPRISIONING WAR, 7 years after Majora Mask, like Twilight Princess was slated to be in 2004.
I mean, this deserves to be rehashed and rehashed:
Source: http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355
Note: In E3 2004 there wasn't any Wolf implemented, the idea came afterwards, it was a different game which explains why almost everything they've shown is not in the final game, just some enemies and the fire boss; the scenery is all different) That was why there were hordes of orcs for a sunset battle, that was OoT's sequel, that was Hero of Time in MM universe, adult again and facing Ganon, Imprisioning War! And I still love the freaking trailer; I love TP as well but hey, not the same game, it only shared the same development cycle.
I want my motherf*cking imprisioning war (and they left the hole for it, it just has to finish with Ganon being imprisoned again and being given final judgement by the Sages) Koizumi wouldn't fail me! In fact if it was done by anyone that person should be Koizumi (also, the time/hardware generation would be right, with the OoT re-release on 3DS).
There's also space for a Wind Waker prequel with a failed hero (let's face it, how could there be awakened sages to be killed otherwise? why would ganon even feel the need to do so if nobody was the Master Sword's rightful owner?) And we, hero of time who ceased to exist in that time plane after OoT NEVER, EVER met Valoo or King of Red Lions (or Laruto and Fado, for that matter) who clearly met the "hero of legends", so they must have met another hero that ultimately failed because Ganon killed the sages that would power the sword of evil bane, I envision him only discovering that in the last battle being unable to seal him and being either sealed along with him or at least having a last battle in ganon tower (just like in wind waker) with hyrule being flooded already. A bittersweet Zelda tale of a forgotten hero (that still managed to save Zelda, seeing Tetra exists, and probably sacrificed himself) I bet the tips left behind were Koizumi's too.
GAH! WANT!
Android18a
Member
I actually saw a TV ad for this on ITV before I switched over to Doctor Who. I was surprised to see a game ad that didn't go all Jedward on us.
Dreamwriter
Member
I don't think it's a silly complaint. I just played the game a few months ago all the way through on Wii VC. Playing through it again just to unlock the Master Quest won't be much fun, it'll be boring busywork, to get to the part where the game feels more fresh and new.boris feinbrand said:
Ugh, it's coming across to me finally that this really is entirely a graphic update, and that's it pretty much (not counting minor control changes I guess.) I mean, is this really a Nintendo remake that literally doesn't add ANY new content? Seems crazy, but the biggest hyped "additions" are "boss rush" (which is pretty much experience content X again when you want) and Master Quest, which they don't appear to have changed at all outside of flipping, which is again a graphical thing. Jeez. I really don't think I can justify this, considering I already own the game 3 times, two of which were free. 
Outtrigger888
Member
I thought beating the game unlocks mirror mode, never heard of master quest being included until now!
Dreamwriter
Member
That's what "mirror mode" is, they changed the Master Quest to be mirrored to increase how different it would feel and the player's disorientation.Outtrigger888 said:
Electivirus
Member
Bought my 3DS and preordered a copy of this.
My sword isenough ready.
My sword is
Sneaky Gato
Member
Eh it makes sense to me. Much of Master Quests difficulty comes in subverting peoples knowledge and expectations about the dungeons. The problem is that unless people have played the game already they will have no expectations to subvert. To people who have never played the original the master quest will mean nothing.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Except I was only going to play the game once. I don't have a ton of time to spend gaming. If there was any version I wanted to play, it was the one I have never played before.boris feinbrand said:
You shouldn't be trying to justify the purchase, if the game isn't selling it self to you just don't buy it, just wait for some other games.Mank said:Ugh, it's coming across to me finally that this really is entirely a graphic update, and that's it pretty much (not counting minor control changes I guess.) I mean, is this really a Nintendo remake that literally doesn't add ANY new content? Seems crazy, but the biggest hyped "additions" are "boss rush" (which is pretty much experience content X again when you want) and Master Quest, which they don't appear to have changed at all outside of flipping, which is again a graphical thing. Jeez. I really don't think I can justify this, considering I already own the game 3 times, two of which were free.
Dreamwriter
Member
Apparently a lot of people missed it when Nintendo announced that there would be no new dungeons.
lostinblue
Banned
Unfreezing Zora Domain.RedSwirl said:
A lot of those couldn't be used now.Willy105 said:
The skulltulla houses for instance were used on Majora Mask and were meant for OoT originally. And the whole 'Fable' thing 10 yeard prior let's just say they learned something with it. They aren't attempting it again.
And the sword beam didn't work as it should, hence it was cut.
What they could have added is fleshing out the ice cave letting you free the imprisoned Zora's (as it was originally intended), and like said, unfreezing it.
PhoenixDawn
Member
One thing that's disappointing to me that I just found out is that
. At least according to the images that I've seen.
Definitely not a deal breaker though, haha. Still looking forward to playing this game on the go and enjoying the enhanced graphics/control scheme. (It's been years since I last played OOT)
EDIT: Err, on close inspection...
Which is actually pretty cool. Guess I should pay more attention to screenshots before I jump to conclusions.
the Mario, bowser, etc paintings were removed and replaced with a generic landscape view out the window
Definitely not a deal breaker though, haha. Still looking forward to playing this game on the go and enjoying the enhanced graphics/control scheme. (It's been years since I last played OOT)
EDIT: Err, on close inspection...
the paintings are gone but instead it's a view of a level in super mario.
HylianScribe
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSJsMyTU1CM
Somebody posted the orchestrated theme (clean) on YT, and disclosed the location. Guess since they spoke up, I can clarify it's in the 2011 credits section, which follows the 1998 credits part.
Now if only NOA would fricking get it together and allows us to finally do direct feed, I could actually make some good videos everyone wants to see. Probably not happening until post E3 though.
Somebody posted the orchestrated theme (clean) on YT, and disclosed the location. Guess since they spoke up, I can clarify it's in the 2011 credits section, which follows the 1998 credits part.
Now if only NOA would fricking get it together and allows us to finally do direct feed, I could actually make some good videos everyone wants to see. Probably not happening until post E3 though.
HylianScribe
Member
BY2K said:
I can't go into specifics, but yes - we could do "cam" footage right now, but we are waiting on a final piece of the "direct feed" puzzle so we can actually give you guys good footage. There is a max of 2.5 mins of footage allowed before the review embargo, and it's not going to be wasted on crappy cam footage when we have a direct feed option that (should) be available in advance of the embargo. You better believe though, when that embargo on video footage expires, there will be some pretty awesome videos ready to go on our site.
Necromanti
Member
Well, the music is "updated" for the 3DS version. Also, WTF...Saria was renamed to Salia in the German version? :|